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    • redrumR Offline
      redrum Admin
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      TripleA Turn Summary: WoodlandRealm round 1

      TripleA Turn Summary for game: Middle Earth - Battle for Arda, version: 2.0.6

      Game History

      Round: 1
      
          Combat Move - WoodlandRealm
              4 elven_archers moved from Rhosgobel to Narrows of Mirkwood
      
          Purchase Units - WoodlandRealm
              WoodlandRealm buy 2 elven_wardens and 1 wall; Remaining resources: 4 PUs; 
      
          Combat - WoodlandRealm
              Battle in Narrows of Mirkwood
                  WoodlandRealm attack with 4 elven_archers
                  DolGuldur defend with 1 spider
                      WoodlandRealm roll dice for 4 elven_archers in Narrows of Mirkwood, round 2 : 2/1 hits, 1.33 expected hits
                      DolGuldur roll dice for 1 spider in Narrows of Mirkwood, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.75 expected hits
                      1 elven_archer owned by the WoodlandRealm and 1 spider owned by the DolGuldur lost in Narrows of Mirkwood
                  WoodlandRealm win, taking Narrows of Mirkwood from DolGuldur with 3 elven_archers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                  Casualties for WoodlandRealm: 1 elven_archer
                  Casualties for DolGuldur: 1 spider
      
          Non Combat Move - WoodlandRealm
              1 elven_archer moved from North Woodland Realm to Old Forest Road
              5 elven_archers and 3 elven_wardens moved from Elvenkings Halls to Old Forest Road
              1 elven_hunter moved from Elf Path to Lands of the Beornings
              1 elven_hunter moved from Elf Path to Long Marshes
              1 elven_hunter moved from North Woodland Realm to Greenwood the Great
              1 elven_hunter moved from Mountains of Mirkwood to Rhosgobel
              1 elven_hunter moved from Mountains of Mirkwood to North Wilderland
      
          Place Units - WoodlandRealm
              2 elven_wardens and 1 wall placed in Rhosgobel
      
          Turn Complete - WoodlandRealm
              WoodlandRealm collect 24 PUs; end with 28 PUs
      

      Combat Hit Differential Summary :

      DolGuldur : 0.25
      WoodlandRealm : 0.67
      

      Savegame

      TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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      • alkexrA Offline
        alkexr
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        TripleA Turn Summary: Harad round 1

        TripleA Turn Summary for game: Middle Earth - Battle for Arda, version: 2.0.6

        Game History

        Round: 1
        
            Combat Move - Harad
                1 black_numenorean moved from North Umbar to sz Gulf of Umbar
                2 black_numenoreans, 1 bowman and 3 corsairs moved from City of Corsairs to sz Gulf of Umbar
                3 black_numenoreans, 2 black_ships, 1 bowman and 3 corsairs moved from sz Gulf of Umbar to sz 23
                3 trollmen moved from Far Harad to Crossings of Harnen
                1 bowman moved from Far Harad to North Umbar
                5 variag_raiders moved from Khand to Harad Road
                4 oliphaunts moved from Haradwaith to Harondor
        
            Purchase Units - Harad
                Harad buy 1 black_ship and 4 corsairs; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
        
            Non Combat Move - Harad
        
            Place Units - Harad
                1 black_ship placed in sz Gulf of Umbar
                4 corsairs placed in City of Corsairs
        
            Turn Complete - Harad
                Harad collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs
        

        Combat Hit Differential Summary :

        Savegame

        "For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air."

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        • alkexrA Offline
          alkexr
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          TripleA Turn Summary: DolGuldur round 1

          TripleA Turn Summary for game: Middle Earth - Battle for Arda, version: 2.0.6

          Game History

          Round: 1
          
              Combat Move - DolGuldur
                      DolGuldur loses 0 PUs for violating North Brown Landss neutrality.
                  1 uruk_warrior moved from Dol Guldur to North Undeep
                  1 orc_marauder moved from East Mirkwood to North Brown Lands
                        DolGuldur take North Brown Lands from Neutral
                  1 orc_marauder moved from East Mirkwood to South Rhovanion
                        DolGuldur take South Rhovanion from Northmen
                  1 uruk_warrior moved from Dol Guldur to Anduin Bank
                  1 orc_marauder moved from West Wilderland to Anduin Bank
                  3 warg_scouts moved from West Wilderland to Narrows of Mirkwood
                  1 spider moved from West Mirkwood to Narrows of Mirkwood
                  1 orc_marauder and 1 uruk_warrior moved from Dol Guldur to East Bight
                  1 orc_marauder, 3 snaga_skirmishers and 1 spider moved from East Mirkwood to Narrows of Mirkwood
                  1 nazgul, 4 orc_marauders, 3 snaga_skirmishers and 1 uruk_warrior moved from Dol Guldur to Narrows of Mirkwood
          
              Purchase Units - DolGuldur
                  DolGuldur buy 1 snaga_skirmisher and 2 warg_scouts; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
          
              Combat - DolGuldur
                  Battle in Anduin Bank
                      DolGuldur attack with 1 orc_marauder and 1 uruk_warrior
                      Northmen defend with 1 woodman
                          DolGuldur roll dice for 1 orc_marauder and 1 uruk_warrior in Anduin Bank, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                          Northmen roll dice for 1 woodman in Anduin Bank, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.08 expected hits
                          1 woodman owned by the Northmen and 1 orc_marauder owned by the DolGuldur lost in Anduin Bank
                      DolGuldur win, taking Anduin Bank from Northmen with 1 uruk_warrior remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                      Casualties for DolGuldur: 1 orc_marauder
                      Casualties for Northmen: 1 woodman
                  Battle in East Bight
                      DolGuldur attack with 1 orc_marauder and 1 uruk_warrior
                      Northmen defend with 1 woodman
                          DolGuldur roll dice for 1 orc_marauder and 1 uruk_warrior in East Bight, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                          Northmen roll dice for 1 woodman in East Bight, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.08 expected hits
                          1 woodman owned by the Northmen lost in East Bight
                      DolGuldur win, taking East Bight from Northmen with 1 orc_marauder and 1 uruk_warrior remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                      Casualties for Northmen: 1 woodman
                  Battle in North Undeep
                      DolGuldur attack with 1 uruk_warrior
                      Neutral defend with 1 scout
                          DolGuldur roll dice for 1 uruk_warrior in North Undeep, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                          1 scout owned by the Neutral lost in North Undeep
                      DolGuldur loses 0 PUs for violating North Undeeps neutrality.
                      DolGuldur win, taking North Undeep from Neutral with 1 uruk_warrior remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                      Casualties for Neutral: 1 scout
                  Battle in Narrows of Mirkwood
                      DolGuldur attack with 1 nazgul, 5 orc_marauders, 6 snaga_skirmishers, 2 spiders, 1 uruk_warrior and 3 warg_scouts
                      WoodlandRealm defend with 3 elven_archers
                          flank fire in Narrows of Mirkwood : 1/1 hits, 0.75 expected hits
                          1 elven_archer owned by the WoodlandRealm lost in Narrows of Mirkwood
                          DolGuldur roll dice for 1 nazgul, 5 orc_marauders, 6 snaga_skirmishers, 2 spiders, 1 uruk_warrior and 3 warg_scouts in Narrows of Mirkwood, round 2 : 7/1 hits, 7.25 expected hits
                          WoodlandRealm roll dice for 2 elven_archers in Narrows of Mirkwood, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 1.25 expected hits
                      Units damaged: 1 spider owned by the DolGuldur
                          2 elven_archers owned by the WoodlandRealm lost in Narrows of Mirkwood
                      DolGuldur win, taking Narrows of Mirkwood from WoodlandRealm with 1 nazgul, 5 orc_marauders, 6 snaga_skirmishers, 2 spiders, 1 uruk_warrior and 3 warg_scouts remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18
                      Casualties for WoodlandRealm: 3 elven_archers
          
              Non Combat Move - DolGuldur
                  1 bat moved from Dol Guldur to East Vales of Anduin
          
              Place Units - DolGuldur
                  1 snaga_skirmisher and 2 warg_scouts placed in Dol Guldur
          
              Turn Complete - DolGuldur
                  DolGuldur collect 21 PUs; end with 21 PUs
                  1 unit repaired.
          

          Combat Hit Differential Summary :

          flank fire in Narrows of Mirkwood : : 0.25
          DolGuldur : 1.08
          Northmen : 0.83
          WoodlandRealm : -0.25
          

          Savegame

          "For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air."

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          • redrumR Offline
            redrum Admin
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            TripleA Turn Summary: Freefolk round 1

            TripleA Turn Summary for game: Middle Earth - Battle for Arda, version: 2.0.6

            Game History

            Round: 1
            
                Combat Move - Freefolk
                        Freefolk loses 0 PUs for violating Baranduin North Banks neutrality.
                        Freefolk loses 0 PUs for violating Baranduin North Banks neutrality.
                        Freefolk loses 0 PUs for violating Brandywine North Banks neutrality.
                        Freefolk loses 0 PUs for violating Barrow Downss neutrality.
                        Freefolk loses 0 PUs for violating Greyflood North Banks neutrality.
                    1 hobbit_archer moved from Old Winyards to Baranduin North Bank
                          Freefolk take Baranduin North Bank from Neutral
                    1 hobbit_archer moved from Tookland to Brandywine North Bank
                          Freefolk take Brandywine North Bank from Neutral
                    2 rangers moved from Chetwood to Amon Sûl
                    2 spearmen moved from Archet to Amon Sûl
                    1 ranger moved from Bree Hill to Amon Sûl
                    2 scouts moved from Andrath to Greenway
                    1 scout moved from Staddle to Greenway
                    2 scouts moved from Bree Hill to Amon Sûl
                    1 spearman moved from Bree to Greenway
                    1 pony_rider moved from Southfarthing to Barrow Downs
                          Freefolk take Barrow Downs from Neutral
                    1 hobbit_archer moved from Bree to West Lone Lands
                    3 rangers moved from Andrath to West Lone Lands
                    1 spearman moved from Bree to Greenway
                    1 spearman moved from Bree to Greyflood North Bank
                          Freefolk take Greyflood North Bank from Neutral
            
                Purchase Units - Freefolk
                    Freefolk buy 1 pony_rider, 3 rangers and 2 scouts; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
            
                Combat - Freefolk
                    Battle in West Lone Lands
                        Freefolk attack with 1 hobbit_archer and 3 rangers
                        Neutral defend with 1 spearman
                            Freefolk roll dice for 1 hobbit_archer and 3 rangers in West Lone Lands, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 1.25 expected hits
                            Neutral roll dice for 1 spearman in West Lone Lands, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                            1 spearman owned by the Neutral lost in West Lone Lands
                        Freefolk loses 0 PUs for violating West Lone Landss neutrality.
                        Freefolk win, taking West Lone Lands from Neutral with 1 hobbit_archer and 3 rangers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                        Casualties for Neutral: 1 spearman
                    Battle in Greenway
                        Freefolk attack with 3 scouts and 2 spearmen
                        Neutral defend with 1 bowman
                            flank fire in Greenway : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                            Freefolk roll dice for 3 scouts and 2 spearmen in Greenway, round 2 : 1/0 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                            Neutral roll dice for 1 bowman in Greenway, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.25 expected hits
                            1 bowman owned by the Neutral lost in Greenway
                        Freefolk loses 0 PUs for violating Greenways neutrality.
                        Freefolk win, taking Greenway from Neutral with 3 scouts and 2 spearmen remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                        Casualties for Neutral: 1 bowman
            
                Non Combat Move - Freefolk
                    2 spearmen moved from Staddle to South Downs
                    1 hobbit_archer moved from Southfarthing to Andrath
                    1 pony_rider moved from Old Winyards to Andrath
                    1 pony_rider moved from Bree to East Lone Lands
                    2 pony_riders moved from Hobbiton to Brandywine East Bank
                    1 pony_rider moved from Brandywine Bridge to Archet
                    2 hobbit_archers moved from Hobbiton to Brandywine Bridge
                    3 hobbit_archers moved from Tuckborough to Sarn Ford
                    2 hobbit_archers moved from Michel Delving to Green Hills
                    1 scout moved from Far Downs to North Emyn Uial
            
                Place Units - Freefolk
                    3 rangers placed in Staddle
                    1 pony_rider placed in Bree
                    2 scouts placed in Bree
            
                Turn Complete - Freefolk
                    Freefolk collect 38 PUs; end with 38 PUs
            

            Combat Hit Differential Summary :

            Neutral : -0.58
            Freefolk : -0.25
            flank fire in Greenway : : -0.50
            

            Savegame

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            • redrumR Offline
              redrum Admin
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              TripleA Turn Summary: Dwarves round 1

              TripleA Turn Summary for game: Middle Earth - Battle for Arda, version: 2.0.6

              Game History

              Round: 1
              
                  Combat Move - Dwarves
                          Dwarves loses 0 PUs for violating East Forodwaiths neutrality.
                          Dwarves loses 0 PUs for violating Lhûns neutrality.
                      2 dwarven_axemen moved from Erebor to Ered Mithrin
                      1 raven moved from Erebor to West Grey Mountains
                      1 dwarven_axethrower moved from Grey Mountains to West Grey Mountains
                      1 dwarven_axethrower moved from North Ered Mithrin to Lands of the Lossoth
                            Dwarves take Lands of the Lossoth from Angmar
                      1 dwarven_pikeman moved from Halls of Grór to East Forodwaith
                            Dwarves take East Forodwaith from Neutral
                      1 dwarven_halberdier moved from Halls of Grór to Northeast Rhûn
                      1 dwarven_axethrower moved from Thorin's Halls to Lhûn
                            Dwarves take Lhûn from Neutral
                      2 dwarven_axemen moved from Thorin's Halls to South Lhûn
                      1 dwarven_axethrower moved from Blue Mountains to South Lhûn
              
                  Purchase Units - Dwarves
                      Dwarves buy 3 dwarven_axethrowers, 1 dwarven_halberdier and 2 ravens; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
              
                  Combat - Dwarves
                      Battle in Ered Mithrin
                          Dwarves attack with 2 dwarven_axemen
                          Angmar defend with 2 snaga_skirmishers
                              Dwarves roll dice for 2 dwarven_axemen in Ered Mithrin, round 2 : 1/0 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                              Angmar roll dice for 2 snaga_skirmishers in Ered Mithrin, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                              1 snaga_skirmisher owned by the Angmar lost in Ered Mithrin
                              Dwarves roll dice for 2 dwarven_axemen in Ered Mithrin, round 3 : 1/0 hits, 1.00 expected hits
                              Angmar roll dice for 1 snaga_skirmisher in Ered Mithrin, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.08 expected hits
                              1 snaga_skirmisher owned by the Angmar lost in Ered Mithrin
                          Dwarves win, taking Ered Mithrin from Angmar with 2 dwarven_axemen remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                          Casualties for Angmar: 2 snaga_skirmishers
                      Battle in Northeast Rhûn
                          Dwarves attack with 1 dwarven_halberdier
                          Rhun defend with 1 spearman
                              Dwarves roll dice for 1 dwarven_halberdier in Northeast Rhûn, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                              Rhun roll dice for 1 spearman in Northeast Rhûn, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.08 expected hits
                              Dwarves roll dice for 1 dwarven_halberdier in Northeast Rhûn, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                              Rhun roll dice for 1 spearman in Northeast Rhûn, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.08 expected hits
                              1 spearman owned by the Rhun lost in Northeast Rhûn
                          Dwarves win, taking Northeast Rhûn from Rhun with 1 dwarven_halberdier remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                          Casualties for Rhun: 1 spearman
                      Battle in West Grey Mountains
                          Dwarves attack with 1 dwarven_axethrower and 1 raven
                          Angmar defend with 1 snaga_skirmisher
                              Dwarves roll dice for 1 dwarven_axethrower and 1 raven in West Grey Mountains, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits
                              Angmar roll dice for 1 snaga_skirmisher in West Grey Mountains, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                              1 snaga_skirmisher owned by the Angmar lost in West Grey Mountains
                          Dwarves win, taking West Grey Mountains from Angmar with 1 dwarven_axethrower and 1 raven remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                          Casualties for Angmar: 1 snaga_skirmisher
              
                  Non Combat Move - Dwarves
                      1 dwarven_axethrower moved from South Ered Mithrin to North Ered Mithrin
                      1 dwarven_axeman moved from South Ered Mithrin to Grey Mountains
                      6 dwarven_axemen moved from Erebor to Dáin's Halls
                      1 trebuchet moved from Erebor to Elvenkings Halls
                      1 dwarven_halberdier and 1 dwarven_pikeman moved from Halls of Grór to East Iron Hills
                      1 dwarven_axeman moved from West Iron Hills to East Iron Hills
              
                  Place Units - Dwarves
                      2 dwarven_axethrowers and 1 dwarven_halberdier placed in Dáin's Halls
                      1 dwarven_axethrower and 2 ravens placed in Erebor
              
                  Turn Complete - Dwarves
                      Dwarves collect 43 PUs; end with 43 PUs
              

              Combat Hit Differential Summary :

              Dwarves : 0.33
              Rhun : -0.17
              Angmar : -0.58
              

              Savegame

              TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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              • redrumR Offline
                redrum Admin
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                TripleA Turn Summary: Rohan round 1

                TripleA Turn Summary for game: Middle Earth - Battle for Arda, version: 2.0.6

                Game History

                Round: 1
                
                    Combat Move - Rohan
                        1 helming_warrior and 1 riddermark_militia moved from Hornburg to Westfold
                
                    Purchase Units - Rohan
                        Rohan buy 1 bowman, 2 kings_companys and 4 riddermark_militias; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
                
                    Combat - Rohan
                        Battle in Westfold
                            Rohan attack with 1 helming_warrior and 1 riddermark_militia
                            Orcs defend with 1 warg_scout
                                Rohan roll dice for 1 helming_warrior and 1 riddermark_militia in Westfold, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.58 expected hits
                                Orcs roll dice for 1 warg_scout in Westfold, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                                Rohan roll dice for 1 helming_warrior and 1 riddermark_militia in Westfold, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.58 expected hits
                                Orcs roll dice for 1 warg_scout in Westfold, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                                1 warg_scout owned by the Orcs lost in Westfold
                            Rohan win, taking Westfold from Orcs with 1 helming_warrior and 1 riddermark_militia remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                            Casualties for Orcs: 1 warg_scout
                
                    Non Combat Move - Rohan
                        1 bowman moved from Hornburg to Helms Deep
                        1 helming_warrior moved from Hornburg to Glittering Caves
                        1 helming_warrior moved from Hornburg to Starkhorn
                        1 helming_warrior moved from Dunharrow to Glittering Caves
                        1 bowman moved from Hornburg to South Fangorn
                        2 bowmen and 3 riddermark_militias moved from Dunharrow to Snowbourn
                        3 bowmen and 6 riddermark_militias moved from Edoras to West Emnet
                        1 bowman and 2 riddermark_militias moved from Aldburg to Entwade
                        2 bowmen moved from Firienholt to Entwade
                        2 eorling_riders moved from East Emnet to The Wold
                        1 eorling_rider moved from Eastfold to The Wold
                        1 eorling_rider moved from Aldburg to The Wold
                        2 eorling_riders moved from West Emnet to The Wold
                        1 rohirric_scout moved from West Emnet to The Wold
                        3 kings_companys moved from Edoras to Entwade
                
                    Place Units - Rohan
                        1 bowman, 2 kings_companys and 4 riddermark_militias placed in Edoras
                
                    Turn Complete - Rohan
                        Rohan collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs
                

                Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                Orcs : -0.33
                Rohan : -0.17
                

                Savegame

                TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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                • redrumR Offline
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                  That 1 orc warg scout winning that battle @40% to block the attack on Sarumen is like a 150 TUV swing move. Definitely doesn't feel good on turn 1. Not sure if that is just an extremely risky move by Sarumen that is probably a bad idea or if the starting positions need tweaked. But that 1 battle to block it probably kept this game alive as otherwise I think Sarumen lost half of its units turn 1.

                  Also I think the placements for Helms Deep need fixed as it appears the first unit is invisible.

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                  • alkexrA Offline
                    alkexr @redrum
                    last edited by alkexr

                    @redrum You made a mistake, and that evens out the mistake I made with Saruman. I think balance-wise we are roughly on the correct track. (You should have sacrificed a huorn to take Westfold, it was clearly important enough.)

                    If Saruman doesn't make a mistake and does the first turn roughly like this, then Evil has about 7% chance to fail both Saruman's and the Orcs' screening attempt.

                    But I agree, it should be made clear whether Saruman + Orcs should be allowed to do this. So either 2 dunlendings should be moved 1 territory closer (to allow Saruman to 100% do this) or 2 dunlendings should be moved 1 territory farther (to make this move impossible).

                    "For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air."

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                    • alkexrA Offline
                      alkexr @redrum
                      last edited by alkexr

                      @redrum said in Battle for Arda 2.0.6 - alkexr (Evil) vs redrum (Good):

                      Also I think the placements for Helms Deep need fixed as it appears the first unit is invisible.

                      It's at (0,0), and hopefully the factory is displayed there.

                      EDIT: oh, I see it now. I wanted to switch to using the dont_display_unit instead of placement hack in the next version anyway.

                      "For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air."

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                        redrum Admin @alkexr
                        last edited by redrum

                        @alkexr Yeah, I didn't realize that the orc warg scout could get to Westfold. For some reason, I keep forgetting they can move through mountains as the other wargs can't and most cavalry can't. And agree that I should have used a Huorn as well though even with just the 2 elven cavalry, there was a pretty good chance of both of them surviving which would have prevented it as well. So both a missed move and 2 unlucky battles 😕

                        So I guess your general thought is that Hornburg should fall to Saruman turn 2 given that they move most of their troops into position to attack it? Just trying to get a sense of where you think the balance lies.

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                          alkexr @redrum
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                          @redrum said in Battle for Arda 2.0.6 - alkexr (Evil) vs redrum (Good):

                          So I guess your general thought is that Hornburg should fall to Saruman turn 2 given that they move most of their troops into position to attack it? Just trying to get a sense of where you think the balance lies.

                          With the current starting position yes, Hornburg should fall turn 2 (without significant difference from the actual game).

                          "For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air."

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                            @alkexr said in Battle for Arda 2.0.6 - alkexr (Evil) vs redrum (Good):

                            (without significant difference from the actual game).

                            Well, at the cost of trading 4-ish uruk pikes or something, but taking them doesn't seem to be free (counterattacks etc.), so TUV-wise it should be close.

                            "For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air."

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                              last edited by redrum

                              @alkexr Yeah, that should prevent Lorien taking Westfold (could also use 2 Gondor rangers as well to make it like 15%) though I think then Rohan can actually get enough to defend Hornburg with Saruman having the 6 or so less units.

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                                alkexr @redrum
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                                @redrum Now I could counter-speculate what I would do differently, and if we keep counter-counter-speculating, we end up playing out a new game in the head. But in the end the two (interlinked) questions we have are:

                                • Should we continue this game as is, or should we start over
                                • Should we balance the map in a way that allows Saruman to take Hornburg turn 2 or not

                                "For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air."

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                                  @alkexr Aye. I definitely think we should continue as even if Saruman/Rohan plays out a bit differently then it normally would, we can still test the rest of the map as I don't think there have been too many errors else where.

                                  We definitely do need to test Saruman's opening and counters to it a bit more though.

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                                    TripleA Turn Summary: Saruman round 2

                                    TripleA Turn Summary for game: Middle Earth - Battle for Arda, version: 2.0.6

                                    Game History

                                    Round: 2
                                    
                                        Combat Move - Saruman
                                                Saruman loses 0 PUs for violating West Ered Nimraiss neutrality.
                                                Saruman loses 0 PUs for violating Isen South Banks neutrality.
                                            1 dunlending_wildman moved from Adorn to West Ered Nimrais
                                                  Saruman take West Ered Nimrais from Neutral
                                            1 uruk_warrior moved from Adorn to Isen South Bank
                                                  Saruman take Isen South Bank from Neutral
                                            1 halforc moved from Isen North Bank to Lond Daer
                                            3 uruk_warriors moved from West March to Lond Daer
                                            1 warg_rider moved from Greyflood East Bank to Eregion
                                            1 warg_rider moved from Swanfleet to Eregion
                                            3 halforcs and 1 uruk_warrior moved from North Enedwaith to Eregion
                                            4 dunlending_wildmen moved from Trihyrne to Ered Nimrais
                                            1 dunlending_wildman moved from East Methedras to Hornburg
                                            1 dunlending_wildman moved from Trihyrne to Hornburg
                                            1 halforc moved from Gap of Rohan to Hornburg
                                            9 uruk_warriors moved from West March to Hornburg
                                            1 wizard moved from Gap of Rohan to Hornburg
                                            2 fire_of_orthancs moved from Nan Curunír to Hornburg
                                            1 dunlending_wildman moved from Methedras to Nimrodel
                                                  Saruman take Nimrodel from Lorien
                                            1 dunlending_wildman moved from Methedras to Limlight
                                                  Saruman take Limlight from Lorien
                                            1 dunlending_wildman moved from Methedras to North Fangorn
                                                  Saruman take North Fangorn from Lorien
                                            3 dunlending_wildmen moved from Isengard to South Fangorn
                                            1 dunlending_wildman moved from Isengard to South Fangorn
                                            2 uruk_warriors moved from West March to Westfold
                                            2 crebains moved from Isengard to Westfold
                                            1 uruk_warrior moved from South Enedwaith to Lond Daer
                                            3 uruk_pikemen moved from Gap of Rohan to Westfold
                                    
                                        Purchase Units - Saruman
                                            Saruman buy 1 dunlending_wildman, 3 halforcs and 4 uruk_pikemen; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
                                    
                                        Combat - Saruman
                                            Battle in Hornburg
                                                Saruman attack with 2 dunlending_wildmen, 2 fire_of_orthancs, 1 halforc, 9 uruk_warriors and 1 wizard
                                                Gondor defend with 2 rangers; Rohan defend with 1 factory, 1 fortress and 6 walls
                                                    siege fire in Hornburg : 5/0 hits, 5,00 expected hits
                                                    5 walls owned by the Rohan lost in Hornburg
                                                    2 fire_of_orthancs owned by the Saruman lost in Hornburg
                                                    Saruman roll dice for 2 dunlending_wildmen, 1 halforc, 9 uruk_warriors and 1 wizard in Hornburg, round 2 : 6/1 hits, 6,08 expected hits
                                                    Rohan roll dice for 1 fortress, 2 rangers and 1 wall in Hornburg, round 2 : 3/0 hits, 3,00 expected hits
                                                    2 dunlending_wildmen owned by the Saruman, 1 halforc owned by the Saruman, 1 fortress owned by the Rohan, 1 wall owned by the Rohan and 2 rangers owned by the Gondor lost in Hornburg
                                                Saruman win, taking Hornburg from Rohan with 9 uruk_warriors and 1 wizard remaining. Battle score for attacker is 51
                                                Casualties for Rohan: 1 fortress and 6 walls
                                                Casualties for Saruman: 2 dunlending_wildmen, 2 fire_of_orthancs and 1 halforc
                                                Casualties for Gondor: 2 rangers
                                            Battle in Westfold
                                                Saruman attack with 2 crebains, 3 uruk_pikemen and 2 uruk_warriors
                                                Rohan defend with 1 helming_warrior and 1 riddermark_militia
                                                    Saruman roll dice for 2 crebains, 3 uruk_pikemen and 2 uruk_warriors in Westfold, round 2 : 2/1 hits, 2,08 expected hits
                                                    Rohan roll dice for 1 helming_warrior and 1 riddermark_militia in Westfold, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,08 expected hits
                                                    1 riddermark_militia owned by the Rohan, 1 helming_warrior owned by the Rohan and 1 crebain owned by the Saruman lost in Westfold
                                                Saruman win, taking Westfold from Rohan with 1 crebain, 3 uruk_pikemen and 2 uruk_warriors remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                                                Casualties for Saruman: 1 crebain
                                                Casualties for Rohan: 1 helming_warrior and 1 riddermark_militia
                                            Battle in Lond Daer
                                                Saruman attack with 1 halforc and 4 uruk_warriors
                                                Neutral defend with 1 bowman, 1 factory and 1 wall
                                                    Saruman roll dice for 1 halforc and 4 uruk_warriors in Lond Daer, round 2 : 2/1 hits, 2,17 expected hits
                                                Units damaged: 1 wall owned by the Neutral
                                                    Neutral roll dice for 1 bowman and 1 wall in Lond Daer, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                                                    1 halforc owned by the Saruman and 1 bowman owned by the Neutral lost in Lond Daer
                                                    Saruman roll dice for 4 uruk_warriors in Lond Daer, round 3 : 2/0 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                                                    Neutral roll dice for 1 wall in Lond Daer, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                                                    1 wall owned by the Neutral lost in Lond Daer
                                                Saruman loses 0 PUs for violating Lond Daers neutrality.
                                                Saruman win, taking Lond Daer from Neutral with 4 uruk_warriors remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                                                Casualties for Saruman: 1 halforc
                                                Casualties for Neutral: 1 bowman and 1 wall
                                            Battle in Eregion
                                                Saruman attack with 3 halforcs, 1 uruk_warrior and 2 warg_riders
                                                HighElves defend with 1 elven_archer
                                                    charge fire in Eregion : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                                                    1 elven_archer owned by the HighElves lost in Eregion
                                                Saruman win, taking Eregion from HighElves with 3 halforcs, 1 uruk_warrior and 2 warg_riders remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                                                Casualties for HighElves: 1 elven_archer
                                            Battle in South Fangorn
                                                Saruman attack with 4 dunlending_wildmen
                                                Rohan defend with 1 bowman
                                                    Saruman roll dice for 4 dunlending_wildmen in South Fangorn, round 2 : 1/0 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                                                    Lorien roll dice for 1 bowman in South Fangorn, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                                                    1 dunlending_wildman owned by the Saruman and 1 bowman owned by the Rohan lost in South Fangorn
                                                Saruman win, taking South Fangorn from Lorien with 3 dunlending_wildmen remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                                                Casualties for Saruman: 1 dunlending_wildman
                                                Casualties for Rohan: 1 bowman
                                            Battle in Ered Nimrais
                                                Saruman attack with 4 dunlending_wildmen
                                                Gondor defend with 1 ranger
                                                    Saruman roll dice for 4 dunlending_wildmen in Ered Nimrais, round 2 : 1/0 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                                                    Gondor roll dice for 1 ranger in Ered Nimrais, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,58 expected hits
                                                    1 dunlending_wildman owned by the Saruman and 1 ranger owned by the Gondor lost in Ered Nimrais
                                                Saruman win, taking Ered Nimrais from Gondor with 3 dunlending_wildmen remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                                                Casualties for Saruman: 1 dunlending_wildman
                                                Casualties for Gondor: 1 ranger
                                    
                                        Non Combat Move - Saruman
                                            1 crebain moved from Westfold to Gap of Rohan
                                            2 halforcs moved from Adorn to Fords of Isen
                                            1 uruk_warrior moved from West March to North-South Road
                                            1 uruk_warrior moved from Isengard to North-South Road
                                    
                                        Place Units - Saruman
                                            1 dunlending_wildman, 3 halforcs and 4 uruk_pikemen placed in Isengard
                                    
                                        Turn Complete - Saruman
                                            Saruman collect 62 PUs; end with 62 PUs
                                    

                                    Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                                    Saruman : -0,33
                                    Neutral : -0,33
                                    Lorien : 0,67
                                    siege fire in Hornburg : : 0,00
                                    charge fire in Eregion : : 0,33
                                    Gondor : 0,42
                                    Rohan : 0,92
                                    

                                    Savegame

                                    "For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air."

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                                      TripleA Turn Summary: Angmar round 2

                                      TripleA Turn Summary for game: Middle Earth - Battle for Arda, version: 2.0.6

                                      Game History

                                      Round: 2
                                      
                                          Combat Move - Angmar
                                              1 dragon moved from Forodwaith to North Arnor
                                              1 dragon moved from Forodwaith to North Arnor
                                              1 snaga_skirmisher moved from Carn Dûm to North Arnor
                                              1 dragon moved from Forodwaith to North Downs
                                              1 snaga_skirmisher moved from Eagle's Eyrie to Langwell
                                                    Angmar take Langwell from Northmen
                                              1 orc_marauder moved from Eagle's Eyrie to East Rhudaur
                                              5 orc_marauders and 1 snaga_skirmisher moved from Carn Dûm to North Downs
                                              1 orc_marauder and 2 snaga_skirmishers moved from Weathertop to Midgewater
                                              3 orc_marauders, 1 snaga_skirmisher and 5 trolls moved from West Rhudaur to Weather Hills
                                              1 nazgul, 6 orc_marauders, 1 snaga_skirmisher and 3 warg_riders moved from Weathertop to Weather Hills
                                              3 orc_marauders and 1 snaga_skirmisher moved from Forodwaith to Mount Gundabad
                                              1 snaga_skirmisher moved from East Angmar to North Downs
                                              1 snaga_skirmisher moved from South Angmar to Weather Hills
                                              1 snaga_skirmisher moved from Ettenmoors to Trollfells
                                              2 snaga_skirmishers moved from Ettenmoors to Ettendales
                                              1 snaga_skirmisher moved from North Misty Mountains to Ettenmoors
                                      
                                          Purchase Units - Angmar
                                              Angmar buy 1 dragon, 3 snaga_skirmishers and 1 wall; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 
                                      
                                          Combat - Angmar
                                              Battle in North Arnor
                                                  Angmar attack with 2 dragons and 1 snaga_skirmisher
                                                  Arnor defend with 1 bowman and 3 man_at_armss
                                                      antiair fire in North Arnor : 1/1 hits, 0,25 expected hits
                                                  Units damaged: 1 dragon owned by the Angmar
                                                      Angmar roll dice for 2 dragons and 1 snaga_skirmisher in North Arnor, round 2 : 3/1 hits, 2,42 expected hits
                                                      Arnor roll dice for 1 bowman and 3 man_at_armss in North Arnor, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,83 expected hits
                                                  Units damaged: 1 dragon owned by the Angmar
                                                      3 man_at_armss owned by the Arnor lost in North Arnor
                                                      antiair fire in North Arnor : 0/1 hits, 0,25 expected hits
                                                      Angmar roll dice for 2 dragons and 1 snaga_skirmisher in North Arnor, round 3 : 3/1 hits, 2,42 expected hits
                                                      Arnor roll dice for 1 bowman in North Arnor, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                                                  Units damaged: 1 dragon owned by the Angmar
                                                      1 bowman owned by the Arnor lost in North Arnor
                                                  Angmar win, taking North Arnor from Arnor with 2 dragons and 1 snaga_skirmisher remaining. Battle score for attacker is 17
                                                  Casualties for Arnor: 1 bowman and 3 man_at_armss
                                              Battle in Midgewater
                                                  Angmar attack with 1 orc_marauder and 2 snaga_skirmishers
                                                  Arnor defend with 1 bowman
                                                      Angmar roll dice for 1 orc_marauder and 2 snaga_skirmishers in Midgewater, round 2 : 1/0 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                                                      Arnor roll dice for 1 bowman in Midgewater, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                                                      1 bowman owned by the Arnor lost in Midgewater
                                                  Angmar win, taking Midgewater from Arnor with 1 orc_marauder and 2 snaga_skirmishers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                                                  Casualties for Arnor: 1 bowman
                                              Battle in North Downs
                                                  Angmar attack with 1 dragon, 5 orc_marauders and 2 snaga_skirmishers
                                                  Arnor defend with 1 bowman and 2 dunadan_guards
                                                      antiair fire in North Downs : 1/1 hits, 0,25 expected hits
                                                  Units damaged: 1 dragon owned by the Angmar
                                                      Angmar roll dice for 1 dragon, 5 orc_marauders and 2 snaga_skirmishers in North Downs, round 2 : 3/1 hits, 3,17 expected hits
                                                      Arnor roll dice for 1 bowman and 2 dunadan_guards in North Downs, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 1,25 expected hits
                                                  Units damaged: 1 dragon owned by the Angmar
                                                      2 dunadan_guards owned by the Arnor and 1 bowman owned by the Arnor lost in North Downs
                                                  Angmar win, taking North Downs from Arnor with 1 dragon, 5 orc_marauders and 2 snaga_skirmishers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 21
                                                  Casualties for Arnor: 1 bowman and 2 dunadan_guards
                                              Battle in Weather Hills
                                                  Angmar attack with 1 nazgul, 9 orc_marauders, 3 snaga_skirmishers, 5 trolls and 3 warg_riders
                                                  Arnor defend with 1 bowman and 1 dunadan_guard
                                                      charge fire in Weather Hills : 1/0 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                                                      formation fire in Weather Hills : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                                                      1 warg_rider owned by the Angmar and 1 bowman owned by the Arnor lost in Weather Hills
                                                      Angmar roll dice for 1 nazgul, 9 orc_marauders, 3 snaga_skirmishers, 5 trolls and 2 warg_riders in Weather Hills, round 2 : 9/0 hits, 9,00 expected hits
                                                      Arnor roll dice for 1 dunadan_guard in Weather Hills, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                                                      1 dunadan_guard owned by the Arnor lost in Weather Hills
                                                  Angmar win, taking Weather Hills from Arnor with 1 nazgul, 9 orc_marauders, 3 snaga_skirmishers, 5 trolls and 2 warg_riders remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                                                  Casualties for Angmar: 1 warg_rider
                                                  Casualties for Arnor: 1 bowman and 1 dunadan_guard
                                      
                                          Non Combat Move - Angmar
                                              2 dragons moved from North Arnor to North Downs
                                      
                                          Place Units - Angmar
                                              1 dragon and 1 snaga_skirmisher placed in Carn Dûm
                                              2 snaga_skirmishers and 1 wall placed in Mount Gundabad
                                      
                                          Turn Complete - Angmar
                                              Angmar collect 47 PUs; end with 48 PUs
                                              3 units repaired.
                                      

                                      Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                                      formation fire in Weather Hills : : 0,67
                                      charge fire in Weather Hills : : 0,00
                                      Arnor : -0,08
                                      antiair fire in North Downs : : 0,75
                                      Angmar : 1,00
                                      antiair fire in North Arnor : : 0,50
                                      

                                      Savegame

                                      "For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air."

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                                        TripleA Turn Summary: Mordor round 2

                                        TripleA Turn Summary for game: Middle Earth - Battle for Arda, version: 2.0.6

                                        Game History

                                        Round: 2
                                        
                                            Combat Move - Mordor
                                                1 winged_nazgul moved from West Ephel Dúath to sz 22
                                                2 uruk_warriors moved from Desolation of the Morannon to South Undeep
                                                1 snaga_skirmisher moved from Dagorlad to South Undeep
                                                1 snaga_skirmisher moved from Dead Marshes to South Undeep
                                                1 winged_nazgul moved from Field of Cormallen to Cair Andros
                                                2 uruk_pikemen moved from Minas Morgul to Cair Andros
                                                3 uruk_pikemen moved from Field of Cormallen to Cair Andros
                                                5 snaga_skirmishers moved from Crossroads to Cair Andros
                                                1 spider moved from Crossroads to Cair Andros
                                                1 olog_hai and 1 orc_marauder moved from Field of Cormallen to Nindalf
                                                1 orc_marauder and 1 snaga_skirmisher moved from West Ephel Dúath to Crossings of Poros
                                                1 winged_nazgul moved from Minas Morgul to Crossings of Poros
                                                1 snaga_skirmisher moved from Emyn Arnen to Crossings of Poros
                                                1 snaga_skirmisher moved from Emyn Arnen to South Ithilien
                                                      Mordor take South Ithilien from Gondor
                                                2 olog_hais moved from Minas Morgul to Henneth Annûn
                                                11 orc_marauders and 10 snaga_skirmishers moved from Mountains of Shadow to East Osgiliath
                                                1 orc_marauder moved from Emyn Arnen to East Osgiliath
                                                2 catapults and 2 snaga_skirmishers moved from Minas Morgul to East Osgiliath
                                                2 snaga_skirmishers moved from North Ithilien to East Osgiliath
                                                6 orc_marauders and 2 snaga_skirmishers moved from Field of Cormallen to East Osgiliath
                                                2 uruk_warriors moved from Crossroads to Dead Marshes
                                                5 orc_marauders and 2 snaga_skirmishers moved from Crossroads to East Osgiliath
                                                1 olog_hai and 2 uruk_warriors moved from Cirith Ungol to East Osgiliath
                                                2 catapults moved from Cirith Ungol to Crossroads
                                        
                                            Purchase Units - Mordor
                                                Mordor buy 1 orc_marauder, 4 uruk_pikemen and 4 uruk_warriors; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
                                        
                                            Combat - Mordor
                                                Battle in Cair Andros
                                                    Mordor attack with 5 snaga_skirmishers, 1 spider, 5 uruk_pikemen and 1 winged_nazgul
                                                    Gondor defend with 3 walls
                                                        Mordor roll dice for 5 snaga_skirmishers, 1 spider, 5 uruk_pikemen and 1 winged_nazgul in Cair Andros, round 2 : 4/1 hits, 3,58 expected hits
                                                    Units damaged: 2 walls owned by the Gondor
                                                        Gondor roll dice for 3 walls in Cair Andros, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,75 expected hits
                                                    Units damaged: 1 spider owned by the Mordor
                                                        1 wall owned by the Gondor lost in Cair Andros
                                                        Mordor roll dice for 5 snaga_skirmishers, 1 spider, 5 uruk_pikemen and 1 winged_nazgul in Cair Andros, round 3 : 3/1 hits, 3,83 expected hits
                                                        Gondor roll dice for 2 walls in Cair Andros, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                                                        2 walls owned by the Gondor lost in Cair Andros
                                                    Mordor win, taking Cair Andros from Gondor with 5 snaga_skirmishers, 1 spider, 5 uruk_pikemen and 1 winged_nazgul remaining. Battle score for attacker is 24
                                                    Casualties for Gondor: 3 walls
                                                Battle in East Osgiliath
                                                    Mordor attack with 2 catapults, 1 olog_hai, 23 orc_marauders, 18 snaga_skirmishers and 2 uruk_warriors
                                                    Gondor defend with 1 factory and 4 walls
                                                        siege fire in East Osgiliath : 2/0 hits, 2,00 expected hits
                                                        2 walls owned by the Gondor lost in East Osgiliath
                                                        Mordor roll dice for 2 catapults, 1 olog_hai, 23 orc_marauders, 18 snaga_skirmishers and 2 uruk_warriors in East Osgiliath, round 2 : 16/0 hits, 16,00 expected hits
                                                        Gondor roll dice for 2 walls in East Osgiliath, round 2 : 1/0 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                                                    Units damaged: 1 olog_hai owned by the Mordor
                                                        2 walls owned by the Gondor lost in East Osgiliath
                                                    Mordor win, taking East Osgiliath from Gondor with 2 catapults, 1 olog_hai, 23 orc_marauders, 18 snaga_skirmishers and 2 uruk_warriors remaining. Battle score for attacker is 32
                                                    Casualties for Gondor: 4 walls
                                                Battle in sz 22
                                                    Mordor attack with 1 winged_nazgul
                                                    Gondor defend with 2 dromunds
                                                        Mordor roll dice for 1 winged_nazgul in sz 22, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                                                        Gondor roll dice for 2 dromunds in sz 22, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                                                    Units damaged: 1 winged_nazgul owned by the Mordor
                                                     retreated to sz 22
                                                Battle in Nindalf
                                                    Mordor attack with 1 olog_hai and 1 orc_marauder
                                                    Gondor defend with 1 spearman
                                                        trample fire in Nindalf : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits
                                                        Mordor roll dice for 1 olog_hai and 1 orc_marauder in Nindalf, round 2 : 1/0 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                                                        Gondor roll dice for 1 spearman in Nindalf, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,08 expected hits
                                                        1 spearman owned by the Gondor lost in Nindalf
                                                    Mordor winGondor win with 2 dromunds remaining, taking Nindalf from Gondor with 1 olog_hai and 1 orc_marauder remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                                                    Casualties for Gondor: 1 spearman
                                                Battle in Henneth Annûn
                                                    Mordor attack with 2 olog_hais
                                                    Gondor defend with 1 factory and 1 spearman
                                                        trample fire in Henneth Annûn : 1/0 hits, 1,00 expected hits
                                                        1 spearman owned by the Gondor lost in Henneth Annûn
                                                    Mordor win, taking Henneth Annûn from Gondor with 2 olog_hais remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                                                    Casualties for Gondor: 1 spearman
                                                Battle in South Undeep
                                                    Mordor attack with 2 snaga_skirmishers and 2 uruk_warriors
                                                    Neutral defend with 1 bowman and 1 scout
                                                        flank fire in South Undeep : 0/1 hits, 0,17 expected hits
                                                        Mordor roll dice for 2 snaga_skirmishers and 2 uruk_warriors in South Undeep, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                                                        Neutral roll dice for 1 bowman and 1 scout in South Undeep, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,25 expected hits
                                                        1 scout owned by the Neutral lost in South Undeep
                                                        Mordor roll dice for 2 snaga_skirmishers and 2 uruk_warriors in South Undeep, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 1,17 expected hits
                                                        Neutral roll dice for 1 bowman in South Undeep, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,25 expected hits
                                                        1 snaga_skirmisher owned by the Mordor and 1 bowman owned by the Neutral lost in South Undeep
                                                    Mordor loses 0 PUs for violating South Undeeps neutrality.
                                                    Mordor win, taking South Undeep from Neutral with 1 snaga_skirmisher and 2 uruk_warriors remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                                                    Casualties for Neutral: 1 bowman and 1 scout
                                                    Casualties for Mordor: 1 snaga_skirmisher
                                                Battle in Crossings of Poros
                                                    Mordor attack with 1 orc_marauder, 2 snaga_skirmishers and 1 winged_nazgul
                                                    Gondor defend with 2 rangers
                                                        antiair fire in Crossings of Poros : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits
                                                        Mordor roll dice for 1 orc_marauder, 2 snaga_skirmishers and 1 winged_nazgul in Crossings of Poros, round 2 : 2/1 hits, 1,58 expected hits
                                                        Gondor roll dice for 2 rangers in Crossings of Poros, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits
                                                        2 rangers owned by the Gondor lost in Crossings of Poros
                                                    Mordor win, taking Crossings of Poros from Gondor with 1 orc_marauder, 2 snaga_skirmishers and 1 winged_nazgul remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                                                    Casualties for Gondor: 2 rangers
                                        
                                            Non Combat Move - Mordor
                                                1 winged_nazgul moved from sz 22 to sz 23
                                                1 winged_nazgul moved from Crossings of Poros to East Osgiliath
                                                1 winged_nazgul moved from Cair Andros to East Osgiliath
                                        
                                            Place Units - Mordor
                                                1 orc_marauder, 1 uruk_pikeman and 3 uruk_warriors placed in Minas Morgul
                                                3 uruk_pikemen placed in Cirith Ungol
                                                1 uruk_warrior placed in Morannon
                                        
                                            Turn Complete - Mordor
                                                Mordor collect 79 PUs; end with 79 PUs
                                                5 units repaired.
                                        

                                        Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                                        Mordor : -1,00
                                        Neutral : 0,50
                                        trample fire in Nindalf : : -0,50
                                        Gondor : -0,67
                                        flank fire in South Undeep : : -0,17
                                        antiair fire in Crossings of Poros : : -0,33
                                        trample fire in Henneth Annûn : : 0,00
                                        siege fire in East Osgiliath : : 0,00
                                        

                                        Savegame

                                        "For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air."

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                                          TripleA Turn Summary: Arnor round 2

                                          TripleA Turn Summary for game: Middle Earth - Battle for Arda, version: 2.0.6

                                          Game History

                                          Round: 2
                                          
                                              Combat Move - Arnor
                                                  2 dunadan_guards moved from Amon Sûl to Midgewater
                                                  1 bowman moved from Mitheithel Bank to Midgewater
                                                  1 dunadan_guard moved from Amon Sûl to Weathertop
                                                  1 man_at_arms moved from Hoarwell Bank to West Rhudaur
                                                        Arnor take West Rhudaur from Angmar
                                                  1 dunadan_guard moved from North Arthedain to North Arnor
                                          
                                              Purchase Units - Arnor
                                                  Arnor buy 6 bowmen and 1 man_at_arms; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 
                                          
                                              Combat - Arnor
                                                  Battle in North Arnor
                                                      Arnor attack with 1 dunadan_guard
                                                      Angmar defend with 1 snaga_skirmisher
                                                          Arnor roll dice for 1 dunadan_guard in North Arnor, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                                          Arnor roll dice for 1 dunadan_guard in North Arnor, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                                          Arnor roll dice for 1 dunadan_guard in North Arnor, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                                          Arnor roll dice for 1 dunadan_guard in North Arnor, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                                          Arnor roll dice for 1 dunadan_guard in North Arnor, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                                          Arnor roll dice for 1 dunadan_guard in North Arnor, round 7 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                                          Arnor roll dice for 1 dunadan_guard in North Arnor, round 8 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                                          Arnor roll dice for 1 dunadan_guard in North Arnor, round 9 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                                          1 snaga_skirmisher owned by the Angmar lost in North Arnor
                                                      Arnor win, taking North Arnor from Angmar with 1 dunadan_guard remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                                                      Casualties for Angmar: 1 snaga_skirmisher
                                                  Battle in Midgewater
                                                      Arnor attack with 1 bowman and 2 dunadan_guards
                                                      Angmar defend with 1 orc_marauder and 2 snaga_skirmishers
                                                          Arnor roll dice for 1 bowman and 2 dunadan_guards in Midgewater, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.75 expected hits
                                                          Angmar roll dice for 1 orc_marauder and 2 snaga_skirmishers in Midgewater, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.25 expected hits
                                                          1 snaga_skirmisher owned by the Angmar and 1 bowman owned by the Arnor lost in Midgewater
                                                          Arnor roll dice for 2 dunadan_guards in Midgewater, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                                                          Angmar roll dice for 1 orc_marauder and 1 snaga_skirmisher in Midgewater, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                                                          Arnor roll dice for 2 dunadan_guards in Midgewater, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits
                                                          Angmar roll dice for 1 orc_marauder and 1 snaga_skirmisher in Midgewater, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                                                          1 dunadan_guard owned by the Arnor lost in Midgewater
                                                          Arnor roll dice for 1 dunadan_guard in Midgewater, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.25 expected hits
                                                          Angmar roll dice for 1 orc_marauder and 1 snaga_skirmisher in Midgewater, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                                                          Arnor roll dice for 1 dunadan_guard in Midgewater, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0.25 expected hits
                                                          Angmar roll dice for 1 orc_marauder and 1 snaga_skirmisher in Midgewater, round 6 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits
                                                          1 dunadan_guard owned by the Arnor lost in Midgewater
                                                      Angmar win with 1 orc_marauder and 1 snaga_skirmisher remaining. Battle score for attacker is -17
                                                      Casualties for Arnor: 1 bowman and 2 dunadan_guards
                                                      Casualties for Angmar: 1 snaga_skirmisher
                                                  Battle in Weathertop
                                                      Arnor attack with 1 dunadan_guard
                                                      Angmar defend with 1 snaga_skirmisher
                                                          Arnor roll dice for 1 dunadan_guard in Weathertop, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                                          Angmar roll dice for 1 snaga_skirmisher in Weathertop, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.08 expected hits
                                                          Arnor roll dice for 1 dunadan_guard in Weathertop, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                                          Angmar roll dice for 1 snaga_skirmisher in Weathertop, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.08 expected hits
                                                          Arnor roll dice for 1 dunadan_guard in Weathertop, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                                          Angmar roll dice for 1 snaga_skirmisher in Weathertop, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.08 expected hits
                                                          Arnor roll dice for 1 dunadan_guard in Weathertop, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits
                                                          Angmar roll dice for 1 snaga_skirmisher in Weathertop, round 5 : 1/1 hits, 0.08 expected hits
                                                          1 dunadan_guard owned by the Arnor lost in Weathertop
                                                      Angmar win with 1 snaga_skirmisher remaining. Battle score for attacker is -8
                                                      Casualties for Arnor: 1 dunadan_guard
                                          
                                              Non Combat Move - Arnor
                                                  2 dunadan_lancers moved from Baranduin East Bank to Fornost
                                                  1 dunadan_lancer moved from Brandywine East Bank to Fornost
                                                  1 dunadan_lancer moved from East-West Road to Fornost
                                                  1 bowman, 2 dunadan_guards and 3 man_at_armss moved from North Arthedain to Baranduin East Bank
                                                  1 man_at_arms moved from South Lhûn to North Arthedain
                                                  1 man_at_arms moved from Lhûn Tributary to North Arthedain
                                                  1 bowman and 1 man_at_arms moved from Brandywine Bridge to Baranduin East Bank
                                                  1 dunadan_guard and 1 man_at_arms moved from Hoarwell Bank to Amon Sûl
                                          
                                              Place Units - Arnor
                                                  5 bowmen placed in Fornost
                                                  1 bowman and 1 man_at_arms placed in Amon Sûl
                                          
                                              Turn Complete - Arnor
                                                  Arnor collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs
                                          

                                          Combat Hit Differential Summary :

                                          Arnor : -4.25
                                          Angmar : 2.75
                                          

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                                            TripleA Move Summary: Gondor round 2

                                            TripleA Move Summary for game: Middle Earth - Battle for Arda, version: 2.0.6

                                            Game History

                                            Round: 2
                                            
                                                Combat Move - Gondor
                                                    6 rangers moved from Anórien to Cair Andros
                                                    3 tower_guards moved from West Osgiliath to Cair Andros
                                                    8 tower_guards moved from Minas Tirith to Cair Andros
                                                    3 man_at_armss moved from Lossarnach to Cair Andros
                                                    5 man_at_armss, 4 spearmen, 6 tower_guards and 2 trebuchets moved from Pelennor Fields to Cair Andros
                                            

                                            Savegame

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