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    • redrum
      redrum Admin @ubernaut last edited by

      @ubernaut So there is a bug with v3 sub rules when checking submerging. It works fine in any maps based on v2 rules. Here is the PR with a fix and once that's merged you can test the latest pre-release: https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/pull/4739

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      • ubernaut
        ubernaut Moderators last edited by

        yeah i was playing a lot of domination 1914 lately i think that uses v3 based rules also. not very git capable i have an account but honestly not sure how to do a pull request or compile things on my own very well.

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        • redrum
          redrum Admin @ubernaut last edited by

          @ubernaut You can get the latest pre-release here: https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases. Don't need to know anything about github just download the appropriate installer for your OS. Just be careful with save games as the new pre-release isn't compatible with old save games.

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          • wirkey
            wirkey Moderators last edited by

            not sure if I didn't mention it before or if it got ignored: if you liberate russian or chinese L&L territories you can't reinforce them in ncm as they turn russian/chinese immediately instead of being the territory of the nation on turn. Just doesn't feel right...

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            • redrum
              redrum Admin @wirkey last edited by

              @wirkey I wasn't aware of that though guessing that issue has always existed in TWW. I'll try to take a look to see if there is a way to fix that.

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              • wirkey
                wirkey Moderators @redrum last edited by

                @redrum with my very limited knowledge I'd say a trigger after combat should do it: if territory x is russian/chinese change ownership to UK/US or RUS (for Altay).

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                • redrum
                  redrum Admin @wirkey last edited by

                  @wirkey Potentially, though I need to take a look at how the triggers currently work and if its using originalOwner/capturedByGoesTo.

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                  • redrum
                    redrum Admin @wirkey last edited by

                    @wirkey I was able to update the triggers to also fire before non-combat move to fix the liberating L&L territory issue. This will be in v3.0.0.3.

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                    • wirkey
                      wirkey Moderators @redrum last edited by

                      @redrum good job. It just came to my mind that it might be a good idea to fire triggers to change the L&L-territory only after ncm. That way they won't be considered as a potential landing spot planes during movement validation.

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                      • redrum
                        redrum Admin @wirkey last edited by

                        @wirkey Not sure I'm understanding your suggestion. If the triggers didn't fire til after ncm then you wouldn't be able to move units to the L&L territories.

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                        • wirkey
                          wirkey Moderators @redrum last edited by

                          @redrum sorry, meant to fire after combats, before ncm

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                          • redrum
                            redrum Admin @wirkey last edited by

                            @wirkey Ah ok. I actually considered doing that but I know a lot of players do a lot of their NCMs during combat move phase so wasn't sure it would be a good idea. I'd need @Hepps and others to weigh in if they would prefer that change.

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                            • ubernaut
                              ubernaut Moderators last edited by

                              are ground transports meant to be able to move after they unload? the engine seems to allow it and i didn't see anything in the player enforced rules section.

                              Also, if memory serves, transports (all ground and air?) must pick up loads before any other NCMs (is allowed on some versions of the game?) meaning you cannot collect multiple loads from multiple territories with a single unit in a single turn. Did see anything about that in the player enforced rules section either so just thought i would make sure i was right about that.

                              one other random question sorry I'm so late to the TWW party 😛 why is Japan the only country who's start screen isn't translated into English? just curious what it says.

                              excellent work on this map btw i think it is by far the highest quality triplea map I've played yet. 🙂

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                              • redrum
                                redrum Admin @ubernaut last edited by

                                @ubernaut Yes. You can even transport multiple different units in the same turn with say trains. The only limitations are that each unit being transported can only be transported once and units can't be moved before being transported. The idea is that you need to kind of plan your ground transport moves the turn before by grouping the units you want to transport in a single territory so you can load then move them together.

                                No idea on the Japan start notification. That's a @Hepps question and probably just artistic choice.

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                                • ubernaut
                                  ubernaut Moderators last edited by

                                  @redrum thanks for clarifying but you are not allowed to do that multiple pick up move with sea transports right or did i imagine that?

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                                  • wirkey
                                    wirkey Moderators @ubernaut last edited by

                                    @ubernaut actually the japanese opening message is in English, it just reads from top to bottom with difficulty to read letters.

                                    @redrum I only know one player who makes all his movements (better most of them) during cm. That's a leftover from nwo/waw, where it had the benefit for better planning your purchase (between cm and combats). But as there is no advantage of making non combat moves during combat movement phase, I'd go with it.

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                                    • ubernaut
                                      ubernaut Moderators @wirkey last edited by

                                      @wirkey thanks for pointing that out didn't even notice. 😛

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                                      • redrum
                                        redrum Admin @ubernaut last edited by

                                        @ubernaut Sea transports work as they do on any other map. You can load and move multiple times but only unload once. So a bit different then land transports.

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                                        • ubernaut
                                          ubernaut Moderators @redrum last edited by

                                          @redrum hmm thanks again the further clarification not sure why i thought that was a player-enforced rule in newer iterations of the game.

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                                          • wirkey
                                            wirkey Moderators @ubernaut last edited by

                                            @ubernaut there is a difference as there is a game option to allow the loading in a hostile sea zone

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