connection problems

[Numetalfan]

from my point of view, all places are fine:

[wc_sumpton]

@Numetalfan

With the information provided, there does not seem to be any problems. You have the territories listed, along with the connections. (You only need one set of connections, the other way is not required.) And you have the territory attachment.

The problem may lie in one of the other files, place.txt, centers.txt, etc. Which would require the whole map to find your problem.

Sorry. :sad_but_relieved_face:

Cheers...

[Numetalfan]

centers.txt:

Singapore (2235,1190)
37 Sea Zone (2276,1216)

Eastern Ukraine (1491,425)
Caucasus (1561,520)

Malta (1122,809)
66 Sea Zone (1101,814)

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place.txt:

66 Sea Zone (1135,800) (1061,793)
Malta (1105,783)

Eastern Ukraine (1469,402) (1423,419) (1515,396)
Caucasus (1539,497) (1493,542) (1558,543) (1572,451) (1580,589) (1595,405)

Singapore (2216,1170)
37 Sea Zone (2263,1192)

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polygons.txt:
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Caucasus < (1525,496) (1530,496) (1534,492) (1535,492) (1539,488) (1541,488) (1541,487) (1542,486) (1543,486) (1543,485) (1544,484) (1545,484) (1547,482) (1547,480) (1548,479) (1548,478) (1550,476) (1551,476) (1553,474) (1553,473) (1554,472) (1559,472) (1562,469) (1563,469) (1564,468) (1565,468) (1565,464) (1567,462) (1568,462) (1569,461) (1569,460) (1570,459) (1570,454) (1571,453) (1571,452) (1572,451) (1572,450) (1573,449) (1573,446) (1574,445) (1574,435) (1575,434) (1576,434) (1576,431) (1577,430) (1577,429) (1580,426) (1583,426) (1584,427) (1584,429) (1585,429) (1586,428) (1587,428) (1590,425) (1590,421) (1589,421) (1587,419) (1587,418) (1586,417) (1586,416) (1585,415) (1585,413) (1586,412) (1588,412) (1588,410) (1590,408) (1591,408) (1593,406) (1594,406) (1596,404) (1606,404) (1608,402) (1609,402) (1611,400) (1612,400) (1614,398) (1628,398) (1629,399) (1635,399) (1636,400) (1638,400) (1642,404) (1642,406) (1643,407) (1643,408) (1644,409) (1657,409) (1658,410) (1658,412) (1659,413) (1660,413) (1661,414) (1662,414) (1666,418) (1666,419) (1667,420) (1667,421) (1665,423) (1665,424) (1660,429) (1660,430) (1655,435) (1655,436) (1650,441) (1650,442) (1645,447) (1645,448) (1642,451) (1642,456) (1641,457) (1641,466) (1640,467) (1640,476) (1639,477) (1639,486) (1638,487) (1638,492) (1637,493) (1637,494) (1635,496) (1635,497) (1634,498) (1633,498) (1632,499) (1619,499) (1617,501) (1615,501) (1614,500) (1607,500) (1605,502) (1604,502) (1604,505) (1601,508) (1599,508) (1598,509) (1598,515) (1596,517) (1595,517) (1594,518) (1594,523) (1595,524) (1595,528) (1594,529) (1593,529) (1592,530) (1591,530) (1591,534) (1594,537) (1597,537) (1598,538) (1599,538) (1600,539) (1601,539) (1603,541) (1603,542) (1605,544) (1606,544) (1607,545) (1607,548) (1609,550) (1609,553) (1611,555) (1611,559) (1612,559) (1614,561) (1614,562) (1615,563) (1615,564) (1616,564) (1617,565) (1621,565) (1623,567) (1623,568) (1624,569) (1624,570) (1626,572) (1626,573) (1627,574) (1627,576) (1637,586) (1638,586) (1643,591) (1644,591) (1645,592) (1646,592) (1649,595) (1649,598) (1647,600) (1647,601) (1646,602) (1646,603) (1645,604) (1645,617) (1644,618) (1644,622) (1642,624) (1642,632) (1643,633) (1643,634) (1645,636) (1645,640) (1646,641) (1646,642) (1648,644) (1647,645) (1639,645) (1635,641) (1635,636) (1634,635) (1633,635) (1632,634) (1631,634) (1630,633) (1629,633) (1628,634) (1627,634) (1626,635) (1625,635) (1624,636) (1624,637) (1623,638) (1623,640) (1621,642) (1603,642) (1601,644) (1589,644) (1588,643) (1587,643) (1586,642) (1586,641) (1585,641) (1584,640) (1583,640) (1582,639) (1573,639) (1572,638) (1571,638) (1569,636) (1566,636) (1565,635) (1561,635) (1559,633) (1542,633) (1536,627) (1534,627) (1533,626) (1534,625) (1534,620) (1533,619) (1533,618) (1522,607) (1521,607) (1520,606) (1518,606) (1517,605) (1515,605) (1514,604) (1503,604) (1502,603) (1500,603) (1499,602) (1498,602) (1493,597) (1490,597) (1489,596) (1488,596) (1486,594) (1485,594) (1484,593) (1483,593) (1482,592) (1480,592) (1479,591) (1478,591) (1477,590) (1476,590) (1474,588) (1473,588) (1472,587) (1470,587) (1469,586) (1467,586) (1466,585) (1457,585) (1456,584) (1455,584) (1452,581) (1446,581) (1443,578) (1443,574) (1444,573) (1449,573) (1451,571) (1451,565) (1452,564) (1452,563) (1453,562) (1455,562) (1455,556) (1456,555) (1458,555) (1459,554) (1460,554) (1460,551) (1455,551) (1453,549) (1451,549) (1450,548) (1450,545) (1454,541) (1457,541) (1458,540) (1458,539) (1459,538) (1459,536) (1462,533) (1463,533) (1463,530) (1462,529) (1457,529) (1454,532) (1452,532) (1451,531) (1451,529) (1447,525) (1447,522) (1450,519) (1451,519) (1451,518) (1452,517) (1458,517) (1459,518) (1469,518) (1469,515) (1470,514) (1473,514) (1474,513) (1474,509) (1472,507) (1472,506) (1473,505) (1477,505) (1478,504) (1479,504) (1480,503) (1488,503) (1489,502) (1495,502) (1496,503) (1501,503) (1502,504) (1507,504) (1507,503) (1508,502) (1509,502) (1511,500) (1512,500) (1513,499) (1515,499) (1516,498) (1521,498) (1522,497) (1523,497) (1524,496) >

Malta < (1123,812) (1127,812) (1127,811) (1128,810) (1128,806) (1127,805) (1121,805) (1120,806) (1120,807) (1119,808) (1118,808) (1118,810) (1119,810) (1121,812) >
66 Sea Zone < (1158,785) (1158,785) (1161,788) (1161,789) (1165,793) (1165,794) (1170,799) (1170,800) (1175,805) (1175,806) (1179,810) (1179,811) (1184,816) (1184,817) (1189,822) (1189,824) (1180,833) (1180,834) (1179,835) (1179,838) (1174,843) (1169,843) (1168,844) (1164,844) (1162,846) (1140,846) (1139,845) (1138,845) (1137,844) (1136,844) (1135,843) (1130,843) (1129,842) (1120,842) (1119,841) (1118,841) (1117,840) (1116,840) (1115,839) (1114,839) (1113,838) (1108,838) (1107,837) (1106,837) (1105,836) (1104,836) (1102,834) (1100,834) (1099,833) (1098,833) (1097,832) (1095,832) (1094,831) (1085,831) (1084,830) (1080,830) (1079,829) (1077,829) (1076,828) (1075,828) (1074,827) (1072,827) (1070,825) (1068,825) (1067,824) (1062,824) (1061,823) (1060,823) (1059,822) (1059,751) (1060,750) (1133,750) (1134,751) (1133,752) (1133,753) (1130,756) (1130,758) (1129,759) (1128,759) (1127,760) (1127,763) (1128,764) (1129,764) (1131,766) (1132,766) (1134,764) (1137,764) (1139,762) (1142,765) (1142,766) (1147,771) (1147,772) (1152,777) (1152,778) (1156,782) (1156,783) >

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connections.txt:

<connection t1="66 Sea Zone" t2="Malta"/>
<connection t1="Caucasus" t2="Eastern Ukraine"/>
<connection t1="37 Sea Zone" t2="Singapore"/>

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any other file to check?

[RogerCooper]

I would try eliminating the doubled connections like

    <connection t1="Caucasus" t2="Eastern Ukraine"/>
    <connection t1="Eastern Ukraine" t2="Caucasus"/>

It is not necessary and may be confusing the program in some fashion.

The scenario looks interesting. I always like playing on the smaller maps.

[Numetalfan]

found a bug - but not the reason for it

this unit move should be impossible, as there is no connection between SZ 70 and Singapore is definied in the xml.

[RogerCooper]

@Numetalfan Try cleaning up all the doubled connections. That may be causing all the problems.

[Numetalfan]

Hi,

all problems are gone.

The trick - I started a new game and everything worked well.
However - our saved game is still c´broken, there all connection problems are still alive.

Strange.

[Numetalfan]

@RogerCooper

first, thx for the hints. I cleaned up my xml removed all the double entries for connections

secondly, thx for the compliment. We are still busy working on that szenario, it is not yet finished. The idea of a sploit of the US is a nice thing, it makes the game much more interesting as there is always action in both the Atlantic and the Pacific,
however there is al lot to do too. new national objectives, balancing the map and the units, the starting income etc.

[Numetalfan]

3 months without any problem, but now I got a strange one:

units cannot move between SZ 53 and 46

this is very strange, because:

it worked before
it is part of the original wwIIv3-41 game, I did not change anything here

I checked, the centers, polygons and place files and redesigned them with the map editor, with no result

even more, from BOTH of them it is possible to move to adjacent sea zones
this means it is possible from SZ 53 to SZ 45 or SZ 79 and then to SZ 46
logically vice verca it works too, e.g. from SZ46 to SZ45 then to SZ53

I have used the map editors connection finder and copied the connections into my xml to get rid of double entries or other stupid mistakes I may have made before

here you see all SZ are connected:

<connection t1="45 Sea Zone" t2="46 Sea Zone"/>
<connection t1="45 Sea Zone" t2="53 Sea Zone"/>
<connection t1="45 Sea Zone" t2="54 Sea Zone"/>
<connection t1="45 Sea Zone" t2="Fiji Samoa"/>
<connection t1="46 Sea Zone" t2="47 Sea Zone"/>
<connection t1="46 Sea Zone" t2="48 Sea Zone"/>
<connection t1="46 Sea Zone" t2="53 Sea Zone"/>
<connection t1="46 Sea Zone" t2="79 Sea Zone"/>
<connection t1="46 Sea Zone" t2="Solomon Islands"/>
...

the files:
WW2v4-1941.xml
polygons.txt
place.txt
centers.txt

can it be anything else? a property or something?

[beelee]

@Numetalfan can you post the entire game ? Upload to sendspace or something similar. I tried adding those 4 files to the regular WW2v4 game but it wouldn't fire.

[Numetalfan]

@belee

https://storage.driveonweb.de/dowdoc/c84fc4098f53f8a89917db2cfbb57085ef5a5fe19a7142de

password: TripleAAA

you can download the game - btw: with 2.5 you can check why it crashes when Italy or US_west turn starts

[RogerCooper]

I think your problem may have something to do with your file names. TripleA is confusing world_war_ii_v4.zip with world_war_ii_v4-Master.zip. Try giving it a different name.

In general, try to avoid the crush of scenarios with some variation of World War II in their name. I would suggest a file name like AA42_Variants.zip and info name like AA42-1941 Setup.

[Numetalfan]

Hi,
I solved the problem - as usual, by redoing the centers and polygons.

now it works

battleship now also costs 18 IPC

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unsolved: why the whole game doesn't run under 2.5 -at least why it crashes round 1 Italy or US.

[beelee]

@Numetalfan you should redo your DL zip. It has a lot of stuff in it that might be causing problems. When you open the zip the fist folder is fine but when you open that, it looks like this:

It should look like:

although I'm pretty sure you can get by without description and README for playing local. Those are for the git upload.

Then when you open "map" it should roughly look like this:

[Numetalfan]

I will do that, already made a map folder,
but what is a description folder good for? what files should it contain?

[Numetalfan]

Hi,

let's go back to

https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/2435/post-turn-summary/13?_=1607414920560

that's where we started the 2.5/1.9 issue.

This thread was for connection error discussions

[beelee]

@Numetalfan description is an image of the map that shows up when you hit select maps. Is needed to upload to triplea but not for local play/testing.

Yea, you shouldn't have any zip files in your "map" map Also the 2 xmls at the bottom. That is why 2 maps were showing in select map. Your shipyard image should go in each players units folder. Probably a few other things.

Might wanna just look at the original v3 41 and make it look like that.

L

[Numetalfan]

Hi belee,

I cleaned up:

https://storage.driveonweb.de/dowdoc/c84fc4098f53f8a891526fe7c7ba3a61288eec3f04cf9286

password: TripleAAA

the things mentioned should no longer appear

[Numetalfan]

Hi all,

happy new year

In my game there were

a) a 73 Sea zone
b) a French indo-China Thailand

both countries are removed, I find none remnants in either the xml, the centers, the place or the polygons.
all of these files are attached.
polygons.txt
place.txt
centers.txt
world_war_ii_v4.xml

However, when I start the game, somewhere like a ghost these territories still exit - but where, in which file?

the error message is:

please help

[Contango]

@Numetalfan

This reminds me of an issue I had where I made changes to a placement file, but then when running the game I was still getting my original placement locations.

If I remember correctly it was a problem of having multiple copies of my map folder (for previous versions) and the game was continuing to call the information from a previous folder even though the XML was the newest version.

Long story short, I’m wondering if it might be a similar problem of calling info from a folder you’re not expecting. Perhaps you think you’re running the game on the latest XML but TripleA is actually running an older version that still has references to your deleted territories.

I’m far from experienced, so just a guess.