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    Power of Politics 1914 : A WWI scenario

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    • HeppsH Offline
      Hepps Moderators @Schulz
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      @schulz said in A WWI scenario design based loosely on NML & TWW:

      Not all today's inner Saudi Arabia was united. Some tribes were pro-Ottoman like Jabal Shammar.

      I understand that the Arabian peninsula was not a single unified country. But for the game purposes I am simply leaving them as a single Neutral Power that is on the verge of joining British Colonial India. Trying to make this into 2 or 3 neutral factions would offer no real value to the game since each would be worth between 2 - 3 PU individually. The way I have set it up (while being a real over-simplification of the real situation) offers both Alliances with some real value.

      "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
      Hepster

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      • SchulzS Offline
        Schulz
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        Will there be mutinies besides Communists?

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        • HeppsH Offline
          Hepps Moderators
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          Here is what I have detailed for Imperial Russia so far.

          0_1541005728954_Russian naming.png

          I have some great maps of Russia from the turn of the century, but unfortunately I cannot read Russian. If anyone knows Imperial Russian Geography... feel free to make some suggestions.

          "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
          Hepster

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            Schulz
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            I am Turkish if you want to know anything about the Ottoman Empire get in touch with me. There are some documentations about the role of the Ottoman Empire during ww1 that aren't English.

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              Hepps Moderators @Schulz
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              @schulz Sure. It would help to have decent regional names for the Ottomans.

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              "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
              Hepster

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              • SchulzS Offline
                Schulz
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                0_1541012984126_1541007810811-ottoman-empire (1).png

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                • HeppsH Offline
                  Hepps Moderators @Schulz
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                  @schulz Looks good. Helps to have some one who knows the regional history of a particular area.

                  Though I do not understand why you would change Kuwait to Basra. As Kuwait it can be set up as a British holding.

                  I am also probably going to leave Baghdad as the city. Since Mosul was a much smaller city at the time.

                  "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                  Hepster

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                  • SchulzS Offline
                    Schulz
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                    It depends I was referring from http://www.wikizeroo.net/index.php?q=aHR0cHM6Ly90ci53aWtpcGVkaWEub3JnL3dpa2kvVmlsYXlldA

                    Kuwait had exactly the same situation with Qatar. If you count Qatar as Ottoman territory then Kuwait also should be count as Ottoman territory too. But none of them was under Ottman rule. Yes, Kuwait should be remain as Kuwait if it is under British protectorate. Though the Kuwaiti ruler supported the Ottoman Empire. From wiki;

                    "During World War I, the British Empire imposed a trade blockade against Kuwait because Kuwait's ruler supported the Ottoman Empire.[68][69][70] The British economic blockade heavily damaged Kuwait's economy.[70]"

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                    • SchulzS Offline
                      Schulz
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                      If you leave Baghdad as the city then Diyarbekir should probably be Mosul.

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                      • HeppsH Offline
                        Hepps Moderators
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                        Redid some of the Ottoman Empire to make a bit more sense to how it was laid out.

                        0_1541018053824_Ottoman Empire reworked.png

                        And yes while the British may have blockaded the Kuwait port. It was still a British Protectorate from what I can find.

                        "The Sheikhdom of Kuwait became a British protectorate in 1899 (until 1961) after the Anglo-Kuwaiti Agreement of 1899 was signed between Sheikh Mubarak Al Sabah and the British government in India due to severe threats to Kuwait's independence from the Ottoman Empire. "

                        "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                        Hepster

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                          Schulz
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                          Pro Ottoman emirate of Jabal Shammar was located in An Nafud but you can just ignore it if you want also Sinai was also part of British Egypt.

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                            Hepps Moderators @Schulz
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                            @schulz said in A WWI scenario design based loosely on NML & TWW:

                            Pro Ottoman emirate of Jabal Shammar was located in An Nafud but you can just ignore it if you want also Sinai was also part of British Egypt.

                            Most of the Sinai Peninsula was occupied by Ottoman and German forces pretty much at the outset of the war as the British had set up their defensive line pretty much at edge of the Suez Canal.

                            "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                            Hepster

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                              alkexr
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                              @Hepps I feel competent in the geography of Austria-Hungary, and to a lesser extent in that of the Russian Empire. I speak a little Russian and I did a ton of research for the Russian Civil War map.

                              The division of Ukraine looks sensible, though I'd name the territories properly, instead of NSEW Ukraine.

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                              The territories in the Russian Heartland and the Caucasus region are difficult to find names for, they don't reflect the historical region boundaries too well.

                              "For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air."

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                                alkexr
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                                @Hepps A sketch of how I would do the territories. Yellow territories are less important, they can be divided up between neighbours or added as separate territories depending on the desired granularity.

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                                "For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air."

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                                  Cernel Moderators @Schulz
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                                  @schulz Here depends on where you are heading, and if you want to have like Moskva, then yes, I suppose. But in any English map of WWI Instanbul would be called Constantinople, just as Iran would be called Persia.

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                                    Hepps Moderators @Cernel
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                                    @cernel and @Schulz

                                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsQrKZcYtqg

                                    I would have thought it would have been Constantinople as well after pouring over maps. But I thought it wiser to not argue with a Turk on the matter. 😃

                                    "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                    Hepster

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                                      Schulz
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                                      Well in this case the other Turkish cities should be named in English too but I don't know how are they called in English. For example Adana is located in Historical Cilicia but this term has never been used in Ottoman era but geographically it is true.

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                                        Schulz
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                                        I think Bolsheviks should not be a controllable combatant like it is in NML because they become useless when Russia is defeated. I suggest you using the concept of Age of Tribes Primeval. There is "nature" faction but none of player is able to control them.

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                                          Hepps Moderators @Schulz
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                                          @schulz This is something that presents a bit of an issue since a random AI controlled power can be very erratic and unreliable. I am certainly open to suggestions and input on this. As of yet I have yet to make a decision on this.

                                          "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                          Hepster

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                                            Schulz
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                                            Agree, AI controlled power is unreliable, But Bolsheviks don't have many options and it prevents AI playing more worse, AI is not as bad as on ground it is in sea AI Bolsheviks would play a bit worse than Human but you can compensate it by boosting Bolsheviks a little bit.

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