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    Power of Politics 1914 : A WWI scenario

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    • HeppsH Offline
      Hepps Moderators @Schulz
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      @schulz This is a a matter of how current functionality is imposed rather than a question of the available options to a map designer. Rest assured the current established mechanics do not inhibit my creative process.

      While engine changes would be welcome... they are by no means necessary to make a more reasonable naval warfare scenario viable.

      "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
      Hepster

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        Hepps Moderators
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        So here is the plan for the production facilities.

        This is a much more simplified version from TWW...

        Factory
        0_1541681436879_Factory.png

        • Cost 20 PU
        • Damage Points 12
        • Max Operational Damage 8 (meaning it will operate as long as it has more than 4 DP).
        • Damaged upon capture 6 DP.
        • Can only be placed in Urban terrain.
        • Produces all non-Infantry type units. (available to a specific power)
        • May produce up to PU value of the territory (minus any Recruitment Center production).

        Recruitment Center
        0_1541681774216_Recruitment Center 2.png

        • Cost 8 PU
        • Damage Points 10
        • Max Operational Damage 8 (meaning it will operate as long as it has more than 2 DP)
        • Destroyed upon capture.
        • Can be placed in any territory with a PU value greater than 0.
        • Will produce infantry types only in Normal Territories.
        • Will produce Colonial Infantry only in Colonial Territories.
        • May produce up to PU value of the territory (minus any factory production).

        "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
        Hepster

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          Cernel Moderators @Hepps
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          @hepps Unless I overlooked some recent changes, the operational damage is not related to production, thus it would affect nothing for either of those units.

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          • HeppsH Offline
            Hepps Moderators
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            Here is a view of the new South Pacific. Moved lots of the islands to make it resemble the real world.

            0_1541764611523_New South Pacific.png

            "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
            Hepster

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            • SchulzS Offline
              Schulz
              last edited by

              Very nice, could you share whole of the map?

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              • HeppsH Offline
                Hepps Moderators @Schulz
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                @schulz Nope sorry. Map will be revealed in its entirety once it is ready for release.

                "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                Hepster

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                • SchulzS Offline
                  Schulz
                  last edited by

                  Why some sea borders are red while some of them are black?

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                    Hepps Moderators @Schulz
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                    @schulz When I made revisions to the map I had done all of the Territory and SZ changes red in a different layer of the image as a way to distinguish the existing map from the changes I was making. Other than that they have absolutely no significance.

                    "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                    Hepster

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                    • HeppsH Offline
                      Hepps Moderators
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                      So I think I have made the final revisions to the map.

                      The Pinsk Marshes have been added. they shall be a worthless territory that alternates between passable and impassable on a set turn schedule.

                      I also changed some of the Western Russia territories.

                      0_1541951902737_Western Russia.png

                      "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                      Hepster

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                      • alkexrA Offline
                        alkexr @Hepps
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                        @hepps One of the territories is spelled incorrectly.

                        "For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air."

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                          Hepps Moderators @alkexr
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                          @alkexr You will be my proof reader anyways. 😃

                          "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                          Hepster

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                            Hepps Moderators
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                            @redrum For your peace of mind...

                            0_1541960313536_Pinsk.png

                            "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                            Hepster

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                              redrum Admin @Hepps
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                              @hepps Yeah, seems Pinsk Marshes is fairly common in references but Pripet Marshes is used some as well. I think I'm just used to seeing Pripet Marshes but maybe that's because the Germans during WWII tended to use that?

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                                Schulz
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                                Zeppelin bombing is generally considered overpowered they are restricted in NML while I think they are even overpriced. You can add radar tech if you wish.

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                                  Hepps Moderators @Schulz
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                                  @schulz Since the air warfare portion of the game has been changed this will play very differently.

                                  "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                  Hepster

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                                    CrazyG Moderators
                                    last edited by CrazyG

                                    I'm glad to see this project is still going strong.

                                    I've said this before, but I think its worth repeating for the discussion here. The biggest problem with most of the WW1 maps is that the allies have a lot of different options, but the Central Powers don't. For example you can get NML to be relatively balanced using a bid, however Germany still has basically only one strategy. Meanwhile America and Britain have a ton of different options.

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                                      Schulz @CrazyG
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                                      @crazyg

                                      You mean that the only valid Central strategy is rushing Russia right? I totally agree. The only solution is probably making Western and Italian front more valuable than the Eastern front but in this case a factory limitation will be must in the Western front otherwise Germany can rush Paris.

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                                        Hepps Moderators @Schulz
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                                        @schulz Thinking that a solution is only achieved in one way is like saying artistic expression can only be achieved with an adherence to classical style.

                                        There are in fact, many ways to to make a game fun without a polarized view of what can make it work.

                                        "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                        Hepster

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                                          CrazyG Moderators @Schulz
                                          last edited by CrazyG

                                          @schulz
                                          Those changes wouldn't make a strategy other than rushing Russia work.

                                          Part of the problem is that the Allies coming by sea have enormous mobility and flexibility. Meanwhile Germany's moves are easy to see coming 3 or so turns in advance.

                                          Politics alone should open up a few new options.

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                                          • SchulzS Offline
                                            Schulz
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                                            I don't think so it is inevitable feature for all ww1 maps that knocking Russia out of war is always must for Centrals. Even in Great War map which Russian territories are not valuable only valid strategy is still rushing Russia.

                                            Neither Great war nor NML has good well designed Eastern fronts. NML has Belarus stack problem while Great War has Kiev-Warsaw stacks. Both of them is unbreakable unless Germany really focus on Russia. But looks like it will be no longer problem since the new Eastern front look good for me.

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