Total World War: December 1941 3.0.0.6

ubernaut

@redrum not seeing that in this battle

redrum

@ubernaut Hmm there is definitely a bug as the subs are showing they should be at 0 along the top but are rolling for 2s. I wonder if its because you have improved subs or if this happens without the tech as well.

Thanks for reporting this if you find any more info around it let me know as I'll have to take a closer look.

ubernaut

@redrum i swear ive seen the same thing happening with standard subs but ill keep my eyes out

ubernaut

should neutrals be able to amphibious assault?

redrum

@ubernaut Not sure but my assumption is because they don't have techs that they can't.

ubernaut

@redrum engine allows it, at least with brazil

redrum

@ubernaut Interesting. I think a lot of the neutral nation functionality is a bit untested and incomplete as most players don't play with them on. @Hepps would have to chime in to provide background around the intentions of how they are supposed to work.

ubernaut

should you be able to move a material the round you capture it? engine seems to allow that but also seems to go against all the other rules for waiting a turn after capturing something before you can do anything with it.

redrum

@ubernaut No, its an engine bug (player enforced rule). @Hepps confirmed that you shouldn't be able to transport materials the turn they are captured just like you can't move a truck the turn its captured.

Reference (ran into this same thing in a game vs Gully): https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/1284/tww-3-0-0-4-gully-ax-vs-redrum-al/118

ubernaut

@redrum thanks thats what i thought @colin will edit unless you want to redo your NC again

zlefin

On amphibious assault with Brazil; iirc something was put in so that all alliable minor nations (brazil, turkey, etc) can do amphib assault.

ubernaut

@zlefin seems to make sense Sweden and brazil are both fairly useless without it

wirkey

Neutrals should be able to make amphib assaults (with regular inf only). Not sure if it is after some rounds or from the beginning

mattbarnes

Hey, I’m still playing my first couple of games and neutrals haven’t really come into it. What is the experience of others please? Are neutrals often courted through politics? Are neutrals often attacked and so get involved that way?

ubernaut

@mattbarnes i like them but their value is debatable

ubernaut

@wirkey thanks

redrum

@mattbarnes Most players play without the neutrals or war only. I don't think the politics around them has ever been properly balanced.

Hepps

@ubernaut All of the Neutrals are immediately given SWF as soon as they join the war. Otherwise they are all but useless.

ubernaut

@Hepps thanks! happy to help devote some man-hours to helping you update the documentation if you need any.

ubernaut

with shared tech should the receiver (us) be able to produce advanced unit the same round the sender (uk) discovers it? or should that not happen until the next turn?