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    Total World War: December 1941 3.0.0.6

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    • redrumR Offline
      redrum Admin @Hendriks1
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      @Hendriks1 Also, in case you haven't seen it, the change log for v3+ which a lot of isn't captured yet in the game manual is the first post of this thread: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/1181/total-world-war-december-1941-3-0-0-6

      TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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      • ubernautU Offline
        ubernaut Moderators
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        i'm still having trouble understanding exactly what the scramble to any amphibious assault option does.

        "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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        • wirkeyW Offline
          wirkey Moderators @ubernaut
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          @ubernaut said in Total World War: December 1941 3.0.0.6:

          i'm still having trouble understanding exactly what the scramble to any amphibious assault option does.

          It only affects amphibious assaults with NO prior naval battle.
          With this option off you can only scramble to amphibious assault(s) from territories being attacked by this amphib assault.
          With the option on you can scramble from any territory with AF adjacent to the SZ from which the assault is coming.
          Example:
          UK is making assault on Norway from SZ 25 (no german ships there). With option on Germany could scramble from Northern Germany, Denmark, Low Countries (providing working AFs of course) additional to srambling from Norway.
          With the option off only Norway can scramble.

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          • ubernautU Offline
            ubernaut Moderators @wirkey
            last edited by

            @wirkey thanks! 🙂

            "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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            • ubernautU Offline
              ubernaut Moderators
              last edited by ubernaut

              i've noticed that in naval battles it's asking for subs to submerge before it asks to press or retreat. is that a map bug or something else? according to this post which references the original ruleset:

              https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/22449

              this is reversed of how it should happen. It also locked me into unreteatable battle when i had 1 fig and 1 sub and accidentally submerged the sub instead of retreating the fighter couldn't retreat on its own for some reason.

              "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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              • ubernautU Offline
                ubernaut Moderators @ubernaut
                last edited by ubernaut

                yeah i think it is some kind of map bug it never gives you the withdrawal option after the first round no matter what you do with the sub, it lets you retreat in subsequent rounds but for whatever reason you have to go at least 2 rounds with this battle:

                autosaveBeforeBattle.tsvg

                additional info: unless the sub is taken as a hit in the first round then the bug will not occur

                "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                • ubernautU Offline
                  ubernaut Moderators
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                  another thing i noticed is that eastern karelia is missing its coastline attribute.

                  "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                  • redrumR Offline
                    redrum Admin @ubernaut
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                    @ubernaut Eastern Karelia missing coast territory effect does seem like an oversight unless @Hepps has some reason that us normal folks aren't thinking of. I'll let him confirm before adding it to the list of things to fix.

                    I'll try to eventually take a look at your save game and sub retreating issues. There were some fixes in the pre-release so its possible that its already resolved (not sure if you tested with the pre-release as well?).

                    TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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                    • ubernautU Offline
                      ubernaut Moderators @redrum
                      last edited by

                      @redrum no i havent, pretty much only run stable. 😛

                      "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                      • wirkeyW Offline
                        wirkey Moderators
                        last edited by

                        I found another bug:

                        Vichy ships give support to german amphibious assaults

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                        • redrumR Offline
                          redrum Admin @wirkey
                          last edited by

                          @wirkey what do you mean by give support?

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                          • ubernautU Offline
                            ubernaut Moderators @redrum
                            last edited by

                            @redrum bombards didnt realize that was a bug

                            "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                              prastle Moderators Admin @ubernaut
                              last edited by prastle

                              @ubernaut The real ? is ? Are Vichy ships allowed to give support? during an amphibious. I would suspect yes and it is not a bug.

                              If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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                              • wirkeyW Offline
                                wirkey Moderators @prastle
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                                @prastle @Hepps I thought it was a bug. Maybe it is meant that way. But I feel it should be a bug. But no big deal. The only time this can happen is if Germany makes an amphib assault on Sardinia from SZ 44

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                                  Hepps Moderators @wirkey
                                  last edited by

                                  @wirkey Some things are beyond the scope of even @redrum 's vast foresight.

                                  "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                  Hepster

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                                  • HeppsH Offline
                                    Hepps Moderators
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                                    And I am not even sure if I have an opinion on the matter at this point. Hadn't really even considered the possibilities.

                                    "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                    Hepster

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                                    • ubernautU Offline
                                      ubernaut Moderators
                                      last edited by

                                      is it normal that a neutral territory (southern sweden) should be switching back to the original owner if the capital is still controlled by opposing forces?

                                      "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                                        Hepps Moderators @ubernaut
                                        last edited by

                                        @ubernaut Yes the neutrals return to the original owner if liberated regardless of whether they control their Capital or not.

                                        "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                        Hepster

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                                        • ubernautU Offline
                                          ubernaut Moderators @Hepps
                                          last edited by

                                          @Hepps thanks for clarifying that. 🙂 curious why it works that way.

                                          "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                                          • H Offline
                                            Hendriks1 @ubernaut
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                                            @Hepps
                                            Strategic bombing. Version 2.8.0.6 (i think, def not latest map).
                                            Since my first UK and US serious bombing of Germany, i’ve had “odd” results. 3 improved us bombers..hits: 0 0 2
                                            4 improved: 2 0 0 3
                                            4 improved, 2 advanced; 1 improved AA casualty; 3 0 0 2 4
                                            Etc etc, too many non hits? I know about the 33% miss change if normal, 25% if improved and NA if advanced = 0-12 range.
                                            Was or is something fishy going on? Totally useless this bombing...

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