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    Total World War: December 1941 3.0.0.6

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    • ubernautU Offline
      ubernaut Moderators
      last edited by ubernaut

      i've noticed that in naval battles it's asking for subs to submerge before it asks to press or retreat. is that a map bug or something else? according to this post which references the original ruleset:

      https://forums.triplea-game.org/post/22449

      this is reversed of how it should happen. It also locked me into unreteatable battle when i had 1 fig and 1 sub and accidentally submerged the sub instead of retreating the fighter couldn't retreat on its own for some reason.

      "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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      • ubernautU Offline
        ubernaut Moderators @ubernaut
        last edited by ubernaut

        yeah i think it is some kind of map bug it never gives you the withdrawal option after the first round no matter what you do with the sub, it lets you retreat in subsequent rounds but for whatever reason you have to go at least 2 rounds with this battle:

        autosaveBeforeBattle.tsvg

        additional info: unless the sub is taken as a hit in the first round then the bug will not occur

        "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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        • ubernautU Offline
          ubernaut Moderators
          last edited by

          another thing i noticed is that eastern karelia is missing its coastline attribute.

          "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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          • redrumR Offline
            redrum Admin @ubernaut
            last edited by

            @ubernaut Eastern Karelia missing coast territory effect does seem like an oversight unless @Hepps has some reason that us normal folks aren't thinking of. I'll let him confirm before adding it to the list of things to fix.

            I'll try to eventually take a look at your save game and sub retreating issues. There were some fixes in the pre-release so its possible that its already resolved (not sure if you tested with the pre-release as well?).

            TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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            • ubernautU Offline
              ubernaut Moderators @redrum
              last edited by

              @redrum no i havent, pretty much only run stable. 😛

              "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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              • wirkeyW Offline
                wirkey Moderators
                last edited by

                I found another bug:

                Vichy ships give support to german amphibious assaults

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                • redrumR Offline
                  redrum Admin @wirkey
                  last edited by

                  @wirkey what do you mean by give support?

                  TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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                  • ubernautU Offline
                    ubernaut Moderators @redrum
                    last edited by

                    @redrum bombards didnt realize that was a bug

                    "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                    • prastleP Offline
                      prastle Moderators Admin @ubernaut
                      last edited by prastle

                      @ubernaut The real ? is ? Are Vichy ships allowed to give support? during an amphibious. I would suspect yes and it is not a bug.

                      If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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                      • wirkeyW Offline
                        wirkey Moderators @prastle
                        last edited by

                        @prastle @Hepps I thought it was a bug. Maybe it is meant that way. But I feel it should be a bug. But no big deal. The only time this can happen is if Germany makes an amphib assault on Sardinia from SZ 44

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                          Hepps Moderators @wirkey
                          last edited by

                          @wirkey Some things are beyond the scope of even @redrum 's vast foresight.

                          "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                          Hepster

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                          • HeppsH Offline
                            Hepps Moderators
                            last edited by

                            And I am not even sure if I have an opinion on the matter at this point. Hadn't really even considered the possibilities.

                            "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                            Hepster

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                            • ubernautU Offline
                              ubernaut Moderators
                              last edited by

                              is it normal that a neutral territory (southern sweden) should be switching back to the original owner if the capital is still controlled by opposing forces?

                              "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                                Hepps Moderators @ubernaut
                                last edited by

                                @ubernaut Yes the neutrals return to the original owner if liberated regardless of whether they control their Capital or not.

                                "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                Hepster

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                                • ubernautU Offline
                                  ubernaut Moderators @Hepps
                                  last edited by

                                  @Hepps thanks for clarifying that. 🙂 curious why it works that way.

                                  "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                                    Hendriks1 @ubernaut
                                    last edited by

                                    @Hepps
                                    Strategic bombing. Version 2.8.0.6 (i think, def not latest map).
                                    Since my first UK and US serious bombing of Germany, i’ve had “odd” results. 3 improved us bombers..hits: 0 0 2
                                    4 improved: 2 0 0 3
                                    4 improved, 2 advanced; 1 improved AA casualty; 3 0 0 2 4
                                    Etc etc, too many non hits? I know about the 33% miss change if normal, 25% if improved and NA if advanced = 0-12 range.
                                    Was or is something fishy going on? Totally useless this bombing...

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                                    • M Offline
                                      mattbarnes
                                      last edited by

                                      SZ27 seems to be linked to Northern Germany. Surely if an enemy holds Copenhagen, that should prevent a landing from SZ27 to Northern Germany?

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                                      • wirkeyW Offline
                                        wirkey Moderators @Hepps
                                        last edited by

                                        @Hepps @ubernaut all territories return to the original owner, even if that capital is occupied or not. I've been adressing this issue for years...

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                                        • wirkeyW Offline
                                          wirkey Moderators @mattbarnes
                                          last edited by

                                          @mattbarnes 27 is indeed connected to Northern Germany. Copenhagen however only controls movement between 27 and 26

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                                            mattbarnes @wirkey
                                            last edited by

                                            @wirkey indeed that seems to be the case. However, is it logical? Visually, one rather has to sail close to Copenhagen to reach Northern Germany.

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