Total World War: December 1941 3.0.0.6
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@ubernaut I like to keep some mystery in the relationship.
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@Cernel no, never made a report, cause I did not think it was a bug, rather the way it was coded.
But I have said it several times that I find it problematic that territories, especially in Russia and China revert to the original owners if liberated, even if their capital(s) are occupied. Prevents the liberator from building infrastructure. That way liberating Russia through Siberia or China from the coast is next to impossible without the ability to build AFs (or rails or whatever). -
@wirkey Yeah, the issue is without reverting to original owners immediately that if you would build infrastructure and then liberate the nation's capital, that nation wouldn't be able to use that infrastructure (americanFactory != chineseFactory). So we'd need triggers to either convert infra units across nations or have them become materials when liberation occurs.
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@Hepps How does this work, the Vichy Fleet at Toulon and Dakar, scuttle or capture, when does this trigger? I installed 3.0.0.6 and use politics, but this doesn't come up on the Axis first turn? What needs to happen?
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@Hepps Japan took the Allied exchange unit territory in the east of USSR from USSR. The UK battled for it in the next turn and won and "liberated" it, now expecting to be able to land a tank there and that tank to switch to become USSR, but UK wasn't allowed to land a tank there in the non combat move...is that ok? Does the territory need to be Russian again for at least one turn? Seems silly to me.
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@Hepps Should trains not become exchangeable between Allies? Right now, trucks are, but the UK would love to present Russia with a train from India, but I believe that is currently not possible?
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So, is this what I was reporting here? If so, this hasn't fixed yet; "Fix bug where liberating russian or chinese L&L territories you can't reinforce them in ncm as they turn russian/chinese immediately instead of being the territory of the nation on turn"
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So, maybe I answered that by looking at the notes for fixes; "Fix Exiled Allies Toulon Fleet Event which was firing turn 1 instead of after Vichy's capital falls". So, this event starts triggering when Vichy capitals falls to the Allies? Does it fire each turn or only once??
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Is there a reason Spain needs to be between China and Britain? Seems like China and Spain could be switched since they most likely don't affect each other, which would make it more convenient for a forum game where the axis have Spain
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@Hendriks1 Take a look at this thread it explains the Vichy fleets...
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@Hepps THANKS! Very clear! Very good!
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@Hendriks1 Aaand I answered that myself by testing as well, as the UK train from India DOES turn to USSR possession in Eastern Iran
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@Hendriks1 I knew you'd figure it out.
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Hey, is it just me or does the engine sometimes allow an AA gun to move to an adjacent space (without a transport) despite its nil movement stat?
I’ve certainly experienced this but I haven’t yet inferred a definitive pattern as to when it is occasionally permitted, given it mostly isn’t. More often that not it occurs when the unit travels along a rail line (but typically not into hills/mountains), although this doesn’t seem to be strictly necessary or sufficient.
I wondered if there is logic at play that behaves a little like the rule that requires planes to have a feasible landing position? The AA gun is permitted a move sometimes if a truck or plane in the vicinity might have been able to assist (even if it is not in fact used)?
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That's a player-enforced rule. You are not allowed to move an AAgun without Truck/Train/Transportship.
Background is, they are allowed to enter Transportships if a Dock is present. To have the engine allow these "enter a ship"-moves, they are given one point of movement, and that has the side-effect that you can move them along land. But you are still not allowed to move them.
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slight correction: Mechs can also move AAguns...
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@mattbarnes What @Gully says is correct... you will also find Materials will behave in the same way. The only allowable move for either unit (AA Gun or Materials) is to move them onto a Sea Transport... any other move without a truck, Mech Inf or Air Transport is illegal as a player enforced rule.
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minor visual bug: When Germany researches Logistics 2, all german airfields will display a green "+" to indicate it. But those in Finland, DanubeAxis and Vichy do not have the indicator. In the game engine, they are still germanAirfield, so I guess they can still scramble 3 planes.
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@Gully I think it eventually updates those. But the tech indicators in general don't always update immediately. Its some sort of engine issue.
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maybe your color depth or resolution? I actually get my comps icons looking different depending on my resolution ... just my thought
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