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    AI Interesting Moves and Points of Improvement on Revised

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Feature Requests & Ideas
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    • LaFayetteL Offline
      LaFayette Admin
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      Good to hear you won't be without your TripleA fix 😄
      I've some concern though for you though when we release 2.0 and everyone must install and play with the latest. With luck we are just weeks away from that.

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      • LaFayetteL Offline
        LaFayette Admin
        last edited by LaFayette

        With luck we are just weeks away from that.*

        I should clarify, hopefully we'll have a beta/soft launch around then. I suspect it'll be plus a month or two after the soft launch when we do a 'hard' cut-over and turn off the 1.9 lobby.

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        • prastleP Offline
          prastle Moderators Admin @Captain Crunch
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          @Captain-Crunch You have a private message 🙂

          If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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          • Captain CrunchC Offline
            Captain Crunch Banned @prastle
            last edited by Captain Crunch

            @prastle um ya I see the private messages thing. If TripleA will not work on Win XP anymore then I haveto wait to get a newer comp ... you messaged me about testing the new lobby but not until I upgrade my operating system so I think thats what you asked me

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            • prastleP Offline
              prastle Moderators Admin @Captain Crunch
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              @Captain-Crunch The latest pre-release still has a 32 bit download have you tried that down load?

              If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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              • Captain CrunchC Offline
                Captain Crunch Banned @prastle
                last edited by Captain Crunch

                @prastle Im pretty sure I downloaded the link at https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases and its been a long time since I even redownloaded the AI and so that git page looks different than the old link I used I think I can't remember. Anyways thats the page with the latest pre-release right? Thats the one I downloaded and it says 32bit on it and has the TripleA icon when it installs so I think its the right one ... the error says "Cannot use bundled JRE" and I'm sure uninstalling my old version won't help

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                  prastle Moderators Admin @Captain Crunch
                  last edited by prastle

                  @Captain-Crunch Update your java. I don't believe TripleA bundles java anymore in the download. You need to update it yourself. @Panther any ideas?

                  If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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                  • Captain CrunchC Offline
                    Captain Crunch Banned @prastle
                    last edited by Captain Crunch

                    @prastle yaa that was my first idea I said right away ... I just have this feeling if I update my Java it will screw my comp lol!

                    Seriously, its between screwing up my computer doing a Java update and playing the latest Triplea AI!

                    If I was super nerd I'd risk it and update my Java but I just don't wanna cuz I'd be so "agita" if my comp got messed up right now lol

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                    • prastleP Offline
                      prastle Moderators Admin @Captain Crunch
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                      @Captain-Crunch Well I update my java every few months but im Win 10 🙂 I don't recall having a problem with XP but that was a few comps ago 😉

                      If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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                      • Captain CrunchC Offline
                        Captain Crunch Banned @prastle
                        last edited by Captain Crunch

                        @prastle hehe ya I'll think about updating my Java but anyways it was a very long time since the AI was tweeked that effected the WWIICLassic map and the day finally came and ya it could just be a Java update I need but I'll definitely tell yous when I'm gonna battle the latest AI again!

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                        • PantherP Offline
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                          last edited by Panther

                          @prastle @Captain-Crunch

                          The TripleA-prereleases come bundled with Java. This Java is installed within the TripleA installation folder and does not interfere in any way with the system. So it would be totally safe to install. The problem here is that TripleA prereleases use Java 11 - which is incompatible with Windows XP.

                          The current stable works with Java 8 - which has been compatible (but not guaranteed) with XP.

                          Don't always trust TripleA when it comes to rules questions. Know the rules before you start … and better check what TripleA has done.

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                          • Captain CrunchC Offline
                            Captain Crunch Banned @Panther
                            last edited by

                            @Panther ok thanks for clarifying! Not a big deal. Will lets yous know when I'm battling the AI again

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                            • Alexei SvitkineA Offline
                              Alexei Svitkine
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                              I noticed testing latest triplea that AI is moving its aa guns around quite a lot, leading to ridiculous board states like:

                              Screen Shot 2019-12-04 at 1.10.07 AM.png

                              Where Russia's aa's are far away from its capital, germany has 6 aa's on the russian front and italy also brought some along.

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                              • redrumR Offline
                                redrum Admin @Alexei Svitkine
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                                @Alexei-Svitkine I think that is fairly normal for global 40 as AA guns are only used in battles not for defending against SBR.

                                TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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                                • PantherP Offline
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                                  @Alexei-Svitkine The characteristics for AAA have changed since Europe/Pacific/Global 1940 2nd Editon as well as for v5 (1942 2nd. edition). Defending against SBR is done by the "self-defense antiaircraft ability" of Industrial Complexes, Naval Bases and Air Bases.

                                  Don't always trust TripleA when it comes to rules questions. Know the rules before you start … and better check what TripleA has done.

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                                  • Alexei SvitkineA Offline
                                    Alexei Svitkine
                                    last edited by

                                    Noticed another AI problem on a recent prerelease build while trying to test something else.

                                    This was on Global 1942 2nd edition. In this game, the ANZAC declared war on the True Neutrals incorrectly. That turn, it landed units in Brazil, but Brazil was Pro-Allies so declaring war on True Neutrals was not necessary. It's also a horrible move because that allowed Germany to gain 8 infantry in Turkey for free the next turn which is catastrophic for the Allies.

                                    See attached saved game. This was Round 2, ANZAC turn.

                                    GLOBAL1942_selftest.tsvg.zip

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                                    • redrumR Offline
                                      redrum Admin @Alexei Svitkine
                                      last edited by redrum

                                      @Alexei-Svitkine I'll take a look but the reason is probably because there is some randomness is political actions for the AI and it probably hit a very small chance to declare war on the neutrals. One thing you can test is reloading the start of ANZAC turn to let the AI play it again to see if they declare war.

                                      TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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                                        Cernel Moderators @Alexei Svitkine
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                                        @Alexei-Svitkine I'm not a Global player, but isn't this an issue with the map? Are there actually any conditions in a well played game in which anyone wants to declare war on true neutrals, ever, I wonder? If not, I would say it is a bad thing to give an option you should never take, but I'm not sure, since I don't like Global and never play it.

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                                        • redrumR Offline
                                          redrum Admin @Cernel
                                          last edited by

                                          @Cernel There are rare occasions when it makes sense to declare war on true neutrals. Mostly late in the game in order to move through a specific area. But its probably done in less than 5% of games if I had to guess.

                                          TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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