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    AI Interesting Moves and Points of Improvement on Revised

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Feature Requests & Ideas
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    • prastleP Offline
      prastle Moderators Admin @Captain Crunch
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      @Captain-Crunch The latest pre-release still has a 32 bit download have you tried that down load?

      If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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        Captain Crunch Banned @prastle
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        @prastle Im pretty sure I downloaded the link at https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases and its been a long time since I even redownloaded the AI and so that git page looks different than the old link I used I think I can't remember. Anyways thats the page with the latest pre-release right? Thats the one I downloaded and it says 32bit on it and has the TripleA icon when it installs so I think its the right one ... the error says "Cannot use bundled JRE" and I'm sure uninstalling my old version won't help

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          prastle Moderators Admin @Captain Crunch
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          @Captain-Crunch Update your java. I don't believe TripleA bundles java anymore in the download. You need to update it yourself. @Panther any ideas?

          If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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            Captain Crunch Banned @prastle
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            @prastle yaa that was my first idea I said right away ... I just have this feeling if I update my Java it will screw my comp lol!

            Seriously, its between screwing up my computer doing a Java update and playing the latest Triplea AI!

            If I was super nerd I'd risk it and update my Java but I just don't wanna cuz I'd be so "agita" if my comp got messed up right now lol

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              prastle Moderators Admin @Captain Crunch
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              @Captain-Crunch Well I update my java every few months but im Win 10 🙂 I don't recall having a problem with XP but that was a few comps ago 😉

              If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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                Captain Crunch Banned @prastle
                last edited by Captain Crunch

                @prastle hehe ya I'll think about updating my Java but anyways it was a very long time since the AI was tweeked that effected the WWIICLassic map and the day finally came and ya it could just be a Java update I need but I'll definitely tell yous when I'm gonna battle the latest AI again!

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                • PantherP Offline
                  Panther Admin Moderators
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                  @prastle @Captain-Crunch

                  The TripleA-prereleases come bundled with Java. This Java is installed within the TripleA installation folder and does not interfere in any way with the system. So it would be totally safe to install. The problem here is that TripleA prereleases use Java 11 - which is incompatible with Windows XP.

                  The current stable works with Java 8 - which has been compatible (but not guaranteed) with XP.

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                    Captain Crunch Banned @Panther
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                    @Panther ok thanks for clarifying! Not a big deal. Will lets yous know when I'm battling the AI again

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                    • Alexei SvitkineA Offline
                      Alexei Svitkine
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                      I noticed testing latest triplea that AI is moving its aa guns around quite a lot, leading to ridiculous board states like:

                      Screen Shot 2019-12-04 at 1.10.07 AM.png

                      Where Russia's aa's are far away from its capital, germany has 6 aa's on the russian front and italy also brought some along.

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                        redrum Admin @Alexei Svitkine
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                        @Alexei-Svitkine I think that is fairly normal for global 40 as AA guns are only used in battles not for defending against SBR.

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                          Panther Admin Moderators @redrum
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                          @Alexei-Svitkine The characteristics for AAA have changed since Europe/Pacific/Global 1940 2nd Editon as well as for v5 (1942 2nd. edition). Defending against SBR is done by the "self-defense antiaircraft ability" of Industrial Complexes, Naval Bases and Air Bases.

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                          • Alexei SvitkineA Offline
                            Alexei Svitkine
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                            Noticed another AI problem on a recent prerelease build while trying to test something else.

                            This was on Global 1942 2nd edition. In this game, the ANZAC declared war on the True Neutrals incorrectly. That turn, it landed units in Brazil, but Brazil was Pro-Allies so declaring war on True Neutrals was not necessary. It's also a horrible move because that allowed Germany to gain 8 infantry in Turkey for free the next turn which is catastrophic for the Allies.

                            See attached saved game. This was Round 2, ANZAC turn.

                            GLOBAL1942_selftest.tsvg.zip

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                              redrum Admin @Alexei Svitkine
                              last edited by redrum

                              @Alexei-Svitkine I'll take a look but the reason is probably because there is some randomness is political actions for the AI and it probably hit a very small chance to declare war on the neutrals. One thing you can test is reloading the start of ANZAC turn to let the AI play it again to see if they declare war.

                              TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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                                Cernel Moderators @Alexei Svitkine
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                                @Alexei-Svitkine I'm not a Global player, but isn't this an issue with the map? Are there actually any conditions in a well played game in which anyone wants to declare war on true neutrals, ever, I wonder? If not, I would say it is a bad thing to give an option you should never take, but I'm not sure, since I don't like Global and never play it.

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                                  redrum Admin @Cernel
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                                  @Cernel There are rare occasions when it makes sense to declare war on true neutrals. Mostly late in the game in order to move through a specific area. But its probably done in less than 5% of games if I had to guess.

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