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    • redrum
      redrum Admin @Alexei Svitkine last edited by

      @Alexei-Svitkine I also reviewed the AI not moving away from its capital area and there was an issue in capital land superiority checks causing it to abort moving units away from its capital. PR to improve that: https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/pull/5562

      This potentially will make a major improvement in the German AI on Great War.

      @LaFayette That definitely looks bad and I imagine the UK should have captured Germany probably 10 turns ago. I'll try to take a look tomorrow.

      ron-murhammer created this issue in triplea-game/triplea

      closed AI Improve Capital Defense Check #5562

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      • LaFayette
        LaFayette Admin @redrum last edited by LaFayette

        Ah, belay that @redrum ; I had a buggy version. I was noticing the AI was not sending enough units in to attack. So AI was building up but could never close the deal 😃

        It was pretty interesting to see the borders had shifted quite a bit nonetheless.

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        • redrum
          redrum Admin @LaFayette last edited by

          @LaFayette Ok. That's a relief as if the AI doesn't attack in that situation, I was pretty worried that there was a major issue.

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          • Captain Crunch
            Captain Crunch Banned @redrum last edited by Captain Crunch

            @redrum the AI Improve Defend Territory Check. That sounds like a vague check. Is that a number in 1 stat that you slightly increased or decreased? Is it named Defend Territory Check?

            EDIT: Ok, I see another page of this thread after I posted that and you made another bug fix for Capitol Defense Check ... again, is that just 1 number you increased or lowered?

            Basically I'm asking if you tweeked both the AI's Defend Territory function and the AI's Capitol Defense function by just changing 1 value for each?

            right?

            Does those 2 bug fixes effect the AI for WWIIClassic map?

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            • redrum
              redrum Admin @Captain Crunch last edited by

              @Captain-Crunch Both updates are a bit more than just tweaking a value:

              • Improve Defend Territory Check - Sometimes the AI would add some units to try to defend a territory and when checking the result vs the result of not adding the units, it would decide not to defend it. Now the AI as long as it projects the defense to have a positive average TUV trade will add the units to defend it.
              • Improve Capital Defense Check - The AI makes a land superiority check (allied vs enemy units within a certain range of its capital) and was only considering units that had already been moved and ignoring units that could still move causing it to often abort defenses. This now makes it consider the max units it could move to nearby territories and then remove units that have moved away from it for other defenses already.

              Both of these improvements impact all maps including Classic though I'd say they probably have a bigger impact on larger maps like Great War. In particular, if you saw cases that the AI didn't move its units forward in noncombat move were it could defend, these 2 changes should hopefully fix those cases.

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              • Captain Crunch
                Captain Crunch Banned @redrum last edited by

                @redrum you rock! I really thought your tweek was going to be much simpler so thank-you for that excellent reply which helps me understand the game programming a bit better and also thank-you for telling me it effects all map AI's so it looks like I'm due to submit another couple games against the AI on the WWIIClassic map ... I'm kinda busy doing some other stuff but I will get 2 wins vs the AI maybe for next weekend but, anyways, excellent reply and much appreciated

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                • Captain Crunch
                  Captain Crunch Banned last edited by

                  @redrum or anyone ... oh snap I downloaded the latest TripleA 2.0.16791 and I get an error that says "Could not use bundled JRE" and I don't want to uninstall my earlier version of TripleA which is 1.9.0.0.9867 incase after I try to get the new one to work and then the old one doesn't work ...

                  so I guess I have to update my Java but that might screw up my old computer running Windows XP so is there a way just to download and insert the new AI any other way?

                  Anyone have any ideas ... if I haveto wait for a new comp I will and it's no big deal waiting to play Axis and Allies again but is updating my Java the only way to play the new AI or is there a simple easy way to update the AI plleeasseeee

                  ty

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                  • redrum
                    redrum Admin @Captain Crunch last edited by

                    @Captain-Crunch Do you get any additional details with the error? I'm not sure that the latest pre-release will run on Windows XP. You shouldn't have to update your Java as we are bundling Java with the pre-release download.

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                    • Captain Crunch
                      Captain Crunch Banned last edited by Captain Crunch

                      the error says to send the copy of some n_log file to my vendor ... here it is:

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                      [42:890] untaring JRE was successful
                      [42:906] JRE dir: C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp\e4jF.tmp_dir1574812439\jre
                      [42:906] LoadDLL (0, C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp\e4jF.tmp_dir1574812439\jre, 0)
                      [42:906] Got JRE location C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp\e4jF.tmp_dir1574812439\jre (java exe: 0)
                      [42:906] MinVersion: 11, MaxVersion:
                      [42:906] checkJavaExe (c:\documents and settings\owner\local settings\temp\e4jf.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\bin\java.exe, [out], 1, 0, 1)
                      [42:906] file exists
                      [42:906] tempPath is C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp
                      [42:906] tempFile is C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp\e4j10.tmp
                      [42:922] Could not create process c:\DOCUME~1\owner\LOCALS~1\temp\E4JF~1.TMP\jre\bin\java.exe -version > C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp\e4j10.tmp (error 193)
                      [42:922] couldn't get version
                      [42:922] checkJavaExe returning 0
                      [42:922] Trying to load JVM-DLL from c:\documents and settings\owner\local settings\temp\e4jf.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\bin\java.exe
                      [42:922] Setting PATH 259 c:\documents and settings\owner\local settings\temp\e4jf.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\bin;C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp\e4jF.tmp_dir1574812439\user;C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Oracle\Java\javapath;C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\PhysX\Common;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem
                      [42:922] Trying c:\documents and settings\owner\local settings\temp\e4jf.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\bin\client\jvm.dll (exists 1)
                      [43:0] Failed with error code 127
                      [43:0] Trying c:\documents and settings\owner\local settings\temp\e4jf.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\bin\server\jvm.dll (exists 1)
                      [43:47] Failed with error code 127
                      [43:47] Trying c:\documents and settings\owner\local settings\temp\e4jf.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\bin\j9vm\jvm.dll (exists 0)
                      [43:47] Trying c:\documents and settings\owner\local settings\temp\e4jf.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\bin\hotspot\jvm.dll (exists 0)
                      [43:47] Trying c:\documents and settings\owner\local settings\temp\e4jf.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\bin\jrockit\jvm.dll (exists 0)
                      [43:47] Setting PATH C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp\e4jF.tmp_dir1574812439\user;C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Oracle\Java\javapath;C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\PhysX\Common;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem
                      [43:47] Setting PATH 259 c:\documents and settings\owner\local settings\temp\e4jf.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\bin..\jre\bin;C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp\e4jF.tmp_dir1574812439\user;C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Oracle\Java\javapath;C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\PhysX\Common;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem
                      [43:47] Trying c:\documents and settings\owner\local settings\temp\e4jf.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\bin..\jre\bin\client\jvm.dll (exists 0)
                      [43:47] Trying c:\documents and settings\owner\local settings\temp\e4jf.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\bin..\jre\bin\server\jvm.dll (exists 0)
                      [43:47] Trying c:\documents and settings\owner\local settings\temp\e4jf.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\bin..\jre\bin\j9vm\jvm.dll (exists 0)
                      [43:47] Trying c:\documents and settings\owner\local settings\temp\e4jf.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\bin..\jre\bin\hotspot\jvm.dll (exists 0)
                      [43:47] Trying c:\documents and settings\owner\local settings\temp\e4jf.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\bin..\jre\bin\jrockit\jvm.dll (exists 0)
                      [43:47] Setting PATH C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp\e4jF.tmp_dir1574812439\user;C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Oracle\Java\javapath;C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\PhysX\Common;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem
                      [43:47] ERROR: Could not get DLL-Handle.
                      [43:47] ERROR: Could not load functions
                      [43:47] ERROR: Could not load bundled JRE. Trying to find another JRE.
                      [43:47] LoadDLL (0, (null), 0)
                      [43:47] Searching for a JVM
                      [43:47] MinVersion: 11, MaxVersion:
                      [43:62] Testing location .....\PlugIns\jre.bundle\Contents\Home (type 😎
                      [43:62] checkJavaExe (c:\documents and settings\owner\plugins\jre.bundle\contents\home\bin\java.exe, [out], 1, 0, 0)
                      [43:62] file doesn't exist
                      [43:62] checkJavaExe returning 0
                      [43:62] Testing location (type Y)
                      [43:62] checkJavaExe (C:\Program Files\Common Files\i4j_jres\1.8.0_66\bin\java.exe, [out], 1, 0, 1)
                      [43:62] file exists
                      [43:62] got version from registry 1.8.0_66
                      [43:62] checkJavaExe returning 0
                      [43:62] Testing location JAVA_HOME (type E)
                      [43:62] Testing location JDK_HOME (type E)
                      [43:62] Testing relative location .....\PlugIns\jre.bundle\Contents\Home
                      [43:62] checkJavaExe (c:\documents and settings\owner\plugins\jre.bundle\contents\home\bin\java.exe, [out], 1, 0, 1)
                      [43:62] file doesn't exist
                      [43:62] checkJavaExe returning 0
                      [43:109] checking app id allinstdirs5251-3669-9623-1649 (0, 80000001)
                      [46:890] found installations: C:\desktop
                      [46:890] checkJavaExe (C:\desktop\jre\bin\java.exe, [out], 1, 0, 0)
                      [46:890] file doesn't exist
                      [46:890] checkJavaExe returning 0
                      [46:906] java version did not match in C:\desktop\jre
                      [46:906] checking app id allinstdirs5251-3669-9623-1649 (512, 80000001)
                      [46:906] found installations: C:\desktop
                      [46:906] checkJavaExe (C:\desktop\jre\bin\java.exe, [out], 1, 0, 0)
                      [46:906] file doesn't exist
                      [46:906] checkJavaExe returning 0
                      [46:906] java version did not match in C:\desktop\jre
                      [46:906] checking app id allinstdirs5251-3669-9623-1649 (0, 80000002)
                      [46:906] found installations: C:\desktop
                      [46:906] checkJavaExe (C:\desktop\jre\bin\java.exe, [out], 1, 0, 0)
                      [46:906] file doesn't exist
                      [46:906] checkJavaExe returning 0
                      [46:906] java version did not match in C:\desktop\jre
                      [46:906] checking app id allinstdirs5251-3669-9623-1649 (512, 80000002)
                      [46:906] found installations: C:\desktop
                      [46:906] checkJavaExe (C:\desktop\jre\bin\java.exe, [out], 1, 0, 0)
                      [46:906] file doesn't exist
                      [46:906] checkJavaExe returning 0
                      [46:906] java version did not match in C:\desktop\jre
                      [46:906] Search sequence finished
                      [46:906] ERROR: No JVM found
                      [46:906] ERROR: Could not find another JRE.
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                      [58:797] attempting to delete C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp\e4jF.tmp_dir1574812439\i4j_extf_6_1sxis30_8of556.png
                      [58:797] attempting to delete C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp\e4jF.tmp_dir1574812439\i4j_extf_7_1sxis30_18gg8kx.png
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                      [58:797] attempting to delete C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp\e4jF.tmp_dir1574812439\installer.ico
                      [58:797] attempting to remove C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp\e4jF.tmp_dir1574812439\jre (1)
                      [58:797] emptying C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp\e4jF.tmp_dir1574812439\jre
                      [58:797] attempting to remove C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp\e4jF.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\bin (0)
                      [58:812] attempting to remove C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp\e4jF.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\conf (0)
                      [58:812] attempting to remove C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp\e4jF.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\legal (0)
                      [58:812] attempting to remove C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp\e4jF.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\lib (0)
                      [58:812] attempting to delete C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp\e4jF.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\release
                      [58:812] attempting to delete C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp\e4jF.tmp_dir1574812439\MessagesDefault
                      [58:812] attempting to delete C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp\e4jF.tmp_dir1574812439\stats.properties
                      [58:812] attempting to delete C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp\e4jF.tmp_dir1574812439\user.jar.pack"

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                      • Captain Crunch
                        Captain Crunch Banned last edited by Captain Crunch

                        weird theres a sunglasses emoji in that

                        so if the latest release doesn't run on XP is there any way to play the latest AI that runs on XP? If not I'll get over it until I get a new comp!

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                          beelee @Captain Crunch last edited by

                          @Captain-Crunch said in AI Interesting Moves and Points of Improvement on Revised:

                          weird theres a sunglasses emoji in that

                          yea makes ya wonder what they're testing and what location they're at lol
                          Looks like it tried it's hardest to get that java for ya Captain : )

                          maybe you'll get a new computer for Christmas : )

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                          • Captain Crunch
                            Captain Crunch Banned last edited by Captain Crunch

                            when downloading it from git my Chrome called it unknown from someones computer and asked if i wanted to still download it ... but whatever is there anyway to play this with XP operating system

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                            • LaFayette
                              LaFayette Admin @Captain Crunch last edited by

                              Given the 32 bit version does not work, I'm sorry to say I don't think you have any options. How long before you get a new system?

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                              • Captain Crunch
                                Captain Crunch Banned last edited by Captain Crunch

                                the old release site it was an AI.jar file I could just replace and still play but I guess this is a different upgrade so ya when I can play again I will tell you and not sure when but following the development on the forum for now is fine. I just do this and a sports forum. I still have the older version of this if I want a battle

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                                • LaFayette
                                  LaFayette Admin last edited by

                                  Good to hear you won't be without your TripleA fix 😄
                                  I've some concern though for you though when we release 2.0 and everyone must install and play with the latest. With luck we are just weeks away from that.

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                                  • LaFayette
                                    LaFayette Admin last edited by LaFayette

                                    With luck we are just weeks away from that.*

                                    I should clarify, hopefully we'll have a beta/soft launch around then. I suspect it'll be plus a month or two after the soft launch when we do a 'hard' cut-over and turn off the 1.9 lobby.

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                                    • prastle
                                      prastle Moderators Admin @Captain Crunch last edited by

                                      @Captain-Crunch You have a private message 🙂

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                                      • Captain Crunch
                                        Captain Crunch Banned @prastle last edited by Captain Crunch

                                        @prastle um ya I see the private messages thing. If TripleA will not work on Win XP anymore then I haveto wait to get a newer comp ... you messaged me about testing the new lobby but not until I upgrade my operating system so I think thats what you asked me

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                                        • prastle
                                          prastle Moderators Admin @Captain Crunch last edited by

                                          @Captain-Crunch The latest pre-release still has a 32 bit download have you tried that down load?

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                                          • Captain Crunch
                                            Captain Crunch Banned @prastle last edited by Captain Crunch

                                            @prastle Im pretty sure I downloaded the link at https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases and its been a long time since I even redownloaded the AI and so that git page looks different than the old link I used I think I can't remember. Anyways thats the page with the latest pre-release right? Thats the one I downloaded and it says 32bit on it and has the TripleA icon when it installs so I think its the right one ... the error says "Cannot use bundled JRE" and I'm sure uninstalling my old version won't help

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