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      iratoric @Schulz
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      @Schulz
      By the way, I was considering giving Belarus to Germany, however it seems that this territory may have remained Russian under the treaty of Brest-Litovsk.

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        Cernel Moderators @iratoric
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        @iratoric I think the most questionable ownership on the map is Greece being Italian. Of course, a game has to make approximations, and it may also be good to do so, yet, also on the account that the game aims at realism to some extent, I mostly wonder if Italy is the best choice amongst all existent players (instead of, say, France).

        About this, Bulgaria is certainly a player one may consider worth (or not worth) being a player, maybe more so than Greece.

        Anyways, I also support your general approach to keep the complexity of the game fairly low. You are quite exceptional here (as most map-makers make big and complex games).

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          Schulz @iratoric
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          @iratoric

          Congress Poland and Baltics were the only areas which the Germans were able to establish client states hence turning them Grey is correct when Russia left the war.

          Ukraine became independent state but had grain agreement with Germany and Austria in exchange of military protection from the Bolsheviks. Belarus was in similar situation. If Ukraine becomes German, then Beularus could be too.

          Finland became independent not a client state.

          Southern Caucasus was very complicated.

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            RogerCooper @Schulz
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            @schulz German troops took Helsinki in March 1918. I think we can count Finland as another German client state.

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              Schulz @RogerCooper
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              @rogercooper I've though because the Germans considered the actions of red Finns backed by the Bolsheviks is a violation of Brest-Litovsk.

              I'am not sure if it would be correct to turn Finland grey just because German troops stationed there. As far as I know Finland wasn't a client state (please correct me if there are evidences against this.)

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                iratoric @Schulz
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                @schulz I think I will follow your suggestion to make Belarus German as well because it appears that there was a serious attempt to form an independent Belarusian state on the territory controlled by the German Imperial Army: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belarusian_People's_Republic

                Here is a 1918 New York Times article discussing the newly independent Ukraine:
                Dismembered_Russia_—Some_Fragments(NYT_article,_Feb._17,_1918).png

                I think Germany should get income from these newly independent states because the German Army occupied them and exploited their resources. In terms of gameplay, it will give the Germans incentive to knock Russia out of the war because they will increase their income without having to deal with the Russian army anymore.

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                  iratoric @Cernel
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                  @Cernel
                  The only reason I chose Italy is because their proximity to Greece makes it easier for them to move more troops there. However, I will change Greece to French ownership as the Allied Army of the Orient which operated in Greece and Macedonia was headed by France: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_Army_of_the_Orient
                  I will change the units in Greece to be a multinational force as Britain and France were fighting in Greece alongside Italy.

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                    RogerCooper @Schulz
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                    @schulz You could plausibly make them Gray, or make them "White" anti-communist Russians.

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                      Schulz @RogerCooper
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                      BTW I'am not sure about national flags of Italy and Russia if they were really containing crown symbols. Using the Russian flag to represent Russian Empire might be inaccurate.

                      Here is the Russian flag with the crown symbol:

                      Russia_large.png

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                        iratoric @Schulz
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                        @schulz Here is a Russian flag with the coat of arms on it for reference:
                        Russian_flag_1914.gif

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                          Schulz @iratoric
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                          @iratoric Thank you but its circled version might be not aesthetically pleasing unfortunately. Maybe its possible to make a version of it with the crown symbol will occupy only quarter (or half) of circle.I will try that.

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                            iratoric @Schulz
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                            @schulz Yes, I think the coat of arms should reach the bottom of the blue stripe though.

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                              Schulz @iratoric
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                              @iratoric What do you think of this verion which the coat of arm is quarter of circle. I think its more aesthetically pleasing.

                              Russia_large.png

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                                iratoric @Schulz
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                                @schulz Personally I think it should reach the bottom of the blue stripe. You can stretch it a little vertically.

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                                  Schulz @iratoric
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                                  @iratoric Circle.png

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                                    iratoric @Schulz
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                                    @schulz Yeah I see what you mean. I think the main issue is that the coat of arms is cut off. Maybe try this one where it is centered:
                                    coat-arms-russian-federation-vector-22742073.jpg

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                                      iratoric @Schulz
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                                      @schulz Here is a small version:
                                      coat-arms-russian-federation-vector-22742073_75x75.jpg

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                                        Schulz @iratoric
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                                        @iratoric Great War map has already have this flag. I'am not even sure if the coat of arms/crowns should be displayed. I personally like simpler/national version of flags unless they have always used with crown versions.

                                        For example I've never liked giant hammer ans sickles to represent the Soviet Union or Communists. I'am either favour of using the current Russian flag or geometrically proportioned crown symbol placed the circled Russian flag.

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                                          iratoric @Schulz
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                                          @schulz Well technically this is the coat of arms placed atop the Russian flag. If you just want to use the regular flag then go ahead. If you do want the coat of arms on the flag, though, then I recommend putting it in the center of the circle.

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                                            iratoric
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                                            I'm considering adding upkeep to units where you will have to pay 1 PU per unit at the end of your turn. I would scale up every country's income by a factor of 10 to pay for the maintenance costs. For instance, Germany would go from $31 to $310. The unit prices would scale up as well. For instance, infantry would go from $3 to $30.

                                            Benefits:

                                            • Armies will reach a maximum size by your ability to supply them
                                            • Russia can have a large army but they will have supply problems like they did historically

                                            Do you want to see this feature added to the game?

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