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    • HeppsH Offline
      Hepps Moderators @Numetalfan
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      @numetalfan said in combined condition attachment for triggers:

      <option name="directOwnershipTerritories" value="Vishy France"/>

      Your problem may stem from how you spelt "Vichy" at the end of that trigger

      "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
      Hepster

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        Numetalfan @Hepps
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        @hepps

        good point,

        but it is
        <territory name="Vishy France"/>

        that fits to
        <option name="directOwnershipTerritories" value="Vishy France"/>

        so this is not the reason

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          Numetalfan @Numetalfan
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          • wc_sumptonW Offline
            wc_sumpton
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            @Numetalfan

            You still need 'attachTo'.

            When you use 'players', 'attachTo' will be added:

            <attachment name="conditionAttachmentVichyFrancecaptured" attachTo="Germans" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.RulesAttachment" type="player">
            <option name="players" value="Germans:Italians:Japanese"/>
            <option name="directOwnershipTerritories" value="Vishy France"/>
            </attachment>
            

            will work the same as:

            <attachment name="conditionAttachmentVichyFrancecaptured" attachTo="Germans" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.RulesAttachment" type="player">
            <option name="players" value="Italians:Japanese"/>
            <option name="directOwnershipTerritories" value="Vishy France"/>
            </attachment>
            

            Cheers...

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              Numetalfan @wc_sumpton
              last edited by

              here we go again

              general question to trigger conditions

              is it possible to combine several "when" conditions?

              something like...

              <option name="when" value="after:britishCombatMove:after:americanCombatMove"/>

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              • wc_sumptonW Offline
                wc_sumpton @Numetalfan
                last edited by

                @Numetalfan

                Yes, just not the way you show it:

                   <option name="when" value="after:britishCombatMove"/>
                   <option name="when" value="after:americanCombatMove"/>
                

                Will allow the same trigger to fire after both British and American combat moves.

                Cheers...

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                  Numetalfan @wc_sumpton
                  last edited by

                  @wc_sumpton

                  perfect! that's what I am looking for

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                    Numetalfan @Numetalfan
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                    Next one:

                    *conditionType Attachment option
                    Parents:
                    userActionAttachment Options for actions
                    politicalActionAttachment Options for politics
                    conditionAttachment Options for conditions
                    objectiveAttachment Options for objectives
                    triggerAttachment Options for triggers
                    Parameters:
                    value: AND, OR, XOR, y, y-z. Defaults to AND if missing.

                    Defines the relationship the conditions must have if there are more than one condition or rules attachment in the trigger.
                    AND means all conditions must be true.
                    OR means just one condition must be true.
                    XOR means that only one condition must be true while all others must be false.
                    'y' is an exact number of conditions
                    'y-z' is a range of numbers.
                    This option will overwrite prior occurences of itself.*

                    1. Is it possible to combine OR and AND

                    somenthing like ("A" or "B") AND "C"
                    in one single statement ?

                    1. If not possible in 1),

                    is it possible to have several
                    <option name='conditions'
                    in one statement ?

                    something like

                    <attachment name='userActionAttachment_Americans_Aid_UK' attachTo='Americans' javaClass='UserActionAttachment' type='player'>
                    <option name='conditions' value='conditionA'/>
                    <option name='conditions' value='conditionB'/>

                    <option name='activateTrigger' value='triggerAttachment_Americans_Aid_UK:1:false:false:false:false'/>
                    <option name='text' value='AMERICANS_AID_UK'/>
                    ...

                    this would mean one of them can be OR/XOR while the other one is "normal"

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                    • wc_sumptonW Offline
                      wc_sumpton @Numetalfan
                      last edited by

                      @numetalfan

                      Simple answer is no you can not have multiple 'conditionType' in a condition statement, as you stated. The best way to handle something like ("A" or "B") and "C" would be to put "A" and "B" in its own condition statement, then add that statement as a condition when checking "C".

                      Cheers...

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                        Numetalfan @wc_sumpton
                        last edited by

                        @wc_sumpton

                        understood, thx

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                          Numetalfan @Numetalfan
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                          next one:

                          ..
                          <relationship type="Neutrality" player1="Germans" player2="Russians" roundValue="1"/>
                          <relationship type="Neutrality" player1="Italians" player2="Russians" roundValue="1"/>
                          ..

                          <attachment name="conditionAttachment_Germans_Not_At_War_With_Russians" attachTo="Germans" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.RulesAttachment" type="player">

                          <option name="relationship" value="Germans:Russians:anyWar"/>
                          <option name="invert" value="true"/>

                          </attachment>

                          ...

                          and

                          ..

                          <attachment name="politicalActionAttachment_Germans_To_War_With_Russians" attachTo="Germans" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.PoliticalActionAttachment" type="player">

                          <option name="conditions" value="conditionAttachment_Germans_Not_At_War_With_Russians"/>

                          <option name="relationshipChange" value="Germans:Russians:War"/>

                          <option name="relationshipChange" value="Italians:Russians:War"/>

                          <option name="text" value="Germany and Italy at war with Russia"/>
                          </attachment>

                          should change War to both, Germany and Italy at the same time
                          possible ?

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                          • wc_sumptonW Offline
                            wc_sumpton @Numetalfan
                            last edited by wc_sumpton

                            @numetalfan

                            Should, but what is the relationship between Germany and Italy? If the relationship is "Allied" and 'alliancesCanChainTogether' is true then it would be unnecessary to set both players if it is Germany or Italy declaring war. Of course if "War" has 'isDefaultWarPosition' set 'True' and Russia declares war on either Germany or Italy then they will be at war with both players.

                            But yes you should be able to change any number of relationships with a single trigger.

                            Cheers...

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                              Numetalfan @wc_sumpton
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                              <attachment name="XYZ" attachTo="British" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.TriggerAttachment" type="player">
                              <option name="when" value="after:britishCombatMove"/>
                              <option name="conditions" value="conditionAttachmentABC"/>
                              <option name="removeUnits" value="8 Sea Zone:bigdestroyer" count="1"/>
                              <option name="placement" value="8 Sea Zone:destroyer" count="1"/>
                              </attachment>

                              so this trigger works, yet it removes excatly 1 unit and replaces it by excatly 1 unit of the other type

                              I want this one to work any time, so 5 bigdestroyers will be replaced by 5 destroyer,
                              3 by 3 and so on

                              count="1-+"

                              does not work

                              Any help?

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                                beelee @Numetalfan
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                                @numetalfan to remove them you can use "all".

                                <option name="removeUnits" value="all:Rail" count="2"/>

                                Unfortunately that doesn't really help, as it doesn't know how many to place. The only way I know of, is to make a different condition/trigger for the number of units.

                                You don't wanna go too huge or it'll slow the game down. At least it seemed like it to me. But you could try 3 or 5 and then use edit for anything more.

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                                  Numetalfan @beelee
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                                  @beelee

                                  thx. So did I, but now the programm is doing stupid things:

                                  If Germany buy one submarine and places that in SZ5,

                                  there is a condition
                                  <attachment name="conditionAttachmentSubGSZ5" attachTo="Germans" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.RulesAttachment" type="player">
                                  <option name="directPresenceTerritories" value="5 Sea Zone"/>
                                  <option name="players" value="Germans:Italians:Japanese"/>
                                  <option name="unitPresence" value="submarine" count= "1"/>
                                  </attachment>

                                  and a trigger

                                  <attachment name="G2subSZ5ET" attachTo="Germans" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.TriggerAttachment" type="player">
                                  <option name="when" value="after:germanEndTurn"/>
                                  <option name="conditions" value="conditionAttachment2SubGSZ5:conditionAttachmentAxisholdGermany"/>
                                  <option name="removeUnits" value="5 Sea Zone:submarine" count="2"/>
                                  <option name="placement" value="5 Sea Zone:submarine_in_sub_bunker" count="2"/>
                                  </attachment>

                                  this one works well, the exchange works

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                                    Numetalfan @Numetalfan
                                    last edited by

                                    oops wrong trigger

                                    <attachment name="GsubSZ5ET" attachTo="Germans" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.TriggerAttachment" type="player">
                                    <option name="when" value="after:germanEndTurn"/>
                                    <option name="conditions" value="conditionAttachmentSubGSZ5:conditionAttachmentAxisholdGermany"/>
                                    <option name="removeUnits" value="5 Sea Zone:submarine" count="1"/>
                                    <option name="placement" value="5 Sea Zone:submarine_in_sub_bunker" count="1"/>
                                    </attachment>

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                                      Numetalfan @Numetalfan
                                      last edited by

                                      but if Germany buys 2 subs

                                      there are 2 conditions - one for 1 sub and one for 2 subs

                                      <attachment name="conditionAttachmentSubGSZ5" attachTo="Germans" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.RulesAttachment" type="player">
                                      <option name="directPresenceTerritories" value="5 Sea Zone"/>
                                      <option name="players" value="Germans:Italians:Japanese"/>
                                      <option name="unitPresence" value="submarine" count= "1"/>
                                      </attachment>

                                      <attachment name="conditionAttachment2SubGSZ5" attachTo="Germans" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.RulesAttachment" type="player">
                                      <option name="directPresenceTerritories" value="5 Sea Zone"/>
                                      <option name="players" value="Germans:Italians:Japanese"/>
                                      <option name="unitPresence" value="submarine" count= "2"/>
                                      </attachment>

                                      and 2 triggers

                                      <attachment name="GsubSZ5ET" attachTo="Germans" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.TriggerAttachment" type="player">
                                      <option name="when" value="after:germanEndTurn"/>
                                      <option name="conditions" value="conditionAttachmentSubGSZ5:conditionAttachmentAxisholdGermany"/>
                                      <option name="removeUnits" value="5 Sea Zone:submarine" count="1"/>
                                      <option name="placement" value="5 Sea Zone:submarine_in_sub_bunker" count="1"/>
                                      </attachment>

                                      <attachment name="G2subSZ5ET" attachTo="Germans" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.TriggerAttachment" type="player">
                                      <option name="when" value="after:germanEndTurn"/>
                                      <option name="conditions" value="conditionAttachment2SubGSZ5:conditionAttachmentAxisholdGermany"/>
                                      <option name="removeUnits" value="5 Sea Zone:submarine" count="2"/>
                                      <option name="placement" value="5 Sea Zone:submarine_in_sub_bunker" count="2"/>
                                      </attachment>

                                      but instead of using the second trigger, the programming is using both 😞

                                      G2subSZ75ET: has removed 2 submarines owned by Germans in 75 Sea Zone
                                      G2subSZ75ET: Germans has 2 submarine_in_sub_bunkers placed in 75 Sea Zone
                                      GsubSZ75ET: Germans has 1 submarine_in_sub_bunker placed in 75 Sea Zone

                                      So: buying 2 subs, means 1+2 = 3 converted units
                                      buying 3 subs, means 1+2+3 = 6 converted untis

                                      how to avoid that ?

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                                      • wc_sumptonW Offline
                                        wc_sumpton
                                        last edited by

                                        @Numetalfan

                                        'count' when used in a conditionAttachment means equal to or greater then. So both statements are true if "5 Sea Zone" has 2 German subs. The triggerAttachment does not check the 'count' when using removeUnits. So if 1 unit is there and you remove 2, it will remove the 1 with out any errors.

                                        To insure that only 1 or 2 units are removed you must check for the presents of just 1 unit. So use a condition that inverts the check for 2 and if true then there must be less then 2 units:

                                        <attachment name="conditionAttachmentNo2SubGSZ5" attachTo="Germans" javaClass="games.strategy.triplea.attachments.RulesAttachment" type="player">
                                           <option name="conditions" value="conditionAttachment2SubGSZ5"/>
                                           <option name="players" value="Germans:Italians:Japanese"/>
                                           <option name="invert" value="true"/>
                                        </attachment>
                                        

                                        Then add that condition to the deployment of 1 subermarine_in_sub_bunker trigger.

                                        Cheers...

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                                          Numetalfan @wc_sumpton
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                                          @wc_sumpton

                                          so if you have 3 positive conditions

                                          if1,if2,if3

                                          and 3 negative one (with invert)

                                          ifnot1,ifnot2,ifnot3

                                          then the triggers would be:

                                          triggerconvert1
                                          ...if1:ifnot2:ifnot3

                                          triggerconvert2
                                          ...if2:ifnot1:ifnot3

                                          triggerconvert3
                                          ...if3:ifnot1:ifnot2

                                          is that the logic for the xml ?
                                          the ":" works as "AND" in this case

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                                          • wc_sumptonW Offline
                                            wc_sumpton
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                                            @Numetalfan

                                            When testing with count the test is for x or more. So if an zone contains 2 units, testing for 1 unit is true, testing for 2 units is true, but testing for 3 units is false. So to test for an exact number of units there needs to be another check. ie: Are there 2 or more units, and less then 3 units?

                                            So to test for up to 3 units:
                                            1 or more and less then 2
                                            2 or more and less then 3
                                            3 or more

                                            Less then 1 testing is not needed. Also testing for less then three when test for 1.

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