💥 1941 Global Command Decision - Official Thread

wc_sumpton

"placementAnyTerritory" is messing with purchase and is only needed for placement.

<attachment foreach="$All-Players$" name="triggerAttachment_@All-Players@_Reset_pAT" attachTo="@All-Players@" javaClass="TriggerAttachment" type="player">
	<option name="conditions" value="conditionAttachment_Always_True"/>
	<option name="playerAttachmentName" value="RulesAttachment" count="rulesAttachment"/>
	<option name="playerProperty" value="placementAnyTerritory" count="false"/>
	<option name="when" value="before:@All-Players@Purchase"/>
</attachment>
<attachment foreach="$All-Players$" name="triggerAttachment_@All-Players@_Set_pAT" attachTo="@All-Players@" javaClass="TriggerAttachment" type="player">
	<option name="conditions" value="conditionAttachment_Always_True"/>
	<option name="playerAttachmentName" value="RulesAttachment" count="rulesAttachment"/>
	<option name="playerProperty" value="placementAnyTerritory" count="true"/>
	<option name="when" value="before:@All-Players@Place"/>
</attachment>
<!-- placementAnyTerritory makes the AI place Factories given by isAI/xml, also appears to aid the AI in defending Paris much better -->
<attachment foreach="$All-Players$" name="rulesAttachment" attachTo="@All-Players@" javaClass="RulesAttachment" type="player">
	<option name="placementAnyTerritory" value="true"/>
<!--	<option name="placementAnySeaZone" value="true"/>  -->
</attachment>

Cheers...

TheDog

@wc_sumpton
Thanks to the genius that is @wc_sumpton the Factory Placement is now turned on when its needed then off when its not.

Update v265 incoming.

TheDog

Latest version v265 ready for download in TripleA.

In TripleA
Click Download Maps Button
Click Installed tab
Click 1941 Global Command Decision
Click Remove Button
Click Yes button to remove
Click Ok button (Successfully removed)
Click Close (To force the map list to refresh)
Click Download Maps Button
Find & Click 1941 Global Command Decision
Click Install button (be aware, old versions of TripleA 2.7 displayed percentage download is NOT working as intended, have a coffee, it takes minutes to download)
Enjoy!

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v265

Thanks to the genius that is @wc_sumpton the Factory Placement is now turned on when its needed then off when its not.
This probably returns the AI game play as before, but we shall see
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Unchanged v265 documentation, last page has winter turn on instructions.
1941_Global_Command_Decision_Manual.pdf

Suggested minimum stable TripleA version
https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases/tag/2.7.15025
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Link to 1st post that has;
Downloads for new Players
https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3326/1941-global-command-decision-official-thread

TheDog

Latest version v270 ready for download in TripleA.

In TripleA
Click Download Maps Button
Click Installed tab
Click 1941 Global Command Decision
Click Remove Button
Click Yes button to remove
Click Ok button (Successfully removed)
Click Close (To force the map list to refresh)
Click Download Maps Button
Find & Click 1941 Global Command Decision
Click Install button

Enjoy!

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v270

Bunker 4pu, was 5, helps the AI buy more
Turkey will now defend as a nation, if attacked, was as each separate territory

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Unchanged v255 documentation, last page has winter turn on instructions.
1941_Global_Command_Decision_Manual.pdf

Suggested TripleA version
https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases
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Link to 1st post that has;
Downloads for new Players
https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3326/1941-global-command-decision-official-thread

captain0

Well done TheDog and everyone else who has worked on this.,

I have been playing triplea on and off for 15 years or so now.
Some online but mostly AI and this is the best map I have played so far.

The map is huge and the Ai handles the complexity fairly well.

I like a longer/historic game ,so I change the sea/ land battle rounds to 1 round the air to 1 or2 rounds to slow things up.

Very accurate setup. and huge map.
It is on your toes with the random sub pop up for Germany and also quite realistic when yours pop up against the AI and attack anything that is unescorted.
Keep up the good work.

TheDog

@captain0
Welcome to the forums!

Thanks for the kind words and your first post

I still play it now as it does give me also the best of solo games.

Can you tell, cause I keep on improving it, hopefully for the better

captain0

Thanks Dog.

The terrain inclusions are great.
The AI put 30 infantry into pripyet marshes and with the terrain bonuses they will be 'hard as hell' to knock out.

I feel like some territories should be a little more fortified and/ or difficult to take i.e. cities could favour defenders more when they are outnumbered.

The upkeep works well and it is a shame to have a 2 fort limit but I guess that is because of AI.
You can edit them on I know,
I don't know if other people would like it but perhaps the fort allowance per territory could be increased and the static fort upkeep be halved?

Another thing that would be great is that transport planes could airlift HQ units to evacuate them from say, Africa when the Italian navy is knocked out.

I set Russia and Japan as allied for a historic game and change that when war in Europe finishes,

On my first game AI Germany took Lenningrad on first turn.
I was a bit surprised at the effectiveness of the AI at that point.

I believe historically the Finns were averse to advancing further than the Vyborg territory that they gave up in the Winter war..
The Finnish commander Mannerheim had Soviet roots and Finnish people were not hugely anti Russian in general.

Lastly whilst playing the AI some countries are close to maximum upkeep on round one.
So a solution is to edit and remove the forts you don't need and convert the value into units.
All my opinion of course but what do other people think?

TheDog

@captain0
Thanks for engaging.

The upkeep works well and it is a shame to have a 2 fort limit but I guess that is because of AI.

This could be increased but it might feel too much like WW1.
When new players come accross Bunkers, they struggled to take them, so I never thought to increase them in number. With the current stacking of other units and of 2 bunkers, it feels about right to give the Atlantic wall feel/vibe and Russian attempt at defence in depth and 1 Bunker in the Pacific gives the dug in Jap feel.

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static fort upkeep be halved?

Upkeep is in whole numbers only, 0 to say 9, so no .5 allowed.
To get the equivilent of .5 you would have to double all PU purchase costs including upkeep to 2, except Bunkers they would be 1. This might mess with the current balance and it might put off human players that are so used to A&A PU costs. The Bunker upkeep cost of 1 also deters the human player from spamming them.

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I set Russia and Japan as allied for a historic game and change that when war in Europe finishes,

Yes the current NAP is weak, why would Russia declare war on Japan when it is losing to Germany. A reworking is on my TODO list

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I believe historically the Finns were averse to advancing further than the Vyborg territory that they gave up in the Winter war..
The Finnish commander Mannerheim had Soviet roots and Finnish people were not hugely anti Russian in general.

We wanted to keep the minor powers to a minimum, although realistic they slow the turn speed down, so a compromise, no Finns, just more Germans.

I hope others chime in with thoughts to your questions.

captain0

Thanks Dog. I understand. and thanks for your reply.

Regarding the forts, would it be possible for game start forts not to require upkeep but only new build forts require upkeep instead-So like a different kind of starting fort?

What I like most about this game are the local battles that occur due to the giant map.
Did the game ever have forested areas in Belarus region with partisans popping up?

I play iron war and oil and snow maps too.
The iron resource make the game and fight for it give the game that extra strategic edge, and the oil too. because it powers most units..
Also the partisans popping up occasionally are a bit of a hindrance when sometimes your units are stuck fighting them whilst they could be moving somewhere else where they are more needed.

Thanks

TheDog

@captain0
Apologies I have not replied earlier.

Yes it is possible to have new build Bunkers/Forts having Upkeep, yes you would need a different kind of starting Bunker/Fort.

For reference 2HP units like Battleship, Carriers, Tank-Hvy cost 2pu Upkeep. Bunker is the exception and only costs 1pu Upkeep, so long term are good value, but too many and they drain your resources.

Partisans were never in the design of the map, although historically accurate they did sap the strength of the Germans, I thought it was more of a distraction for the player and like in history would be suppressed with reinforcements from the west. I think the German player has a tough time especially if using Winter.

Having said the above if more players want Russian Partisans then say.

It was a design decision not to have resources other than PU as the AI does not understand them, see here.
https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3743/how-to-make-a-map-ai-friendly

In game there is enough of a draw to get the oil producing TT and they are also VCs so I think the map simulates it well. On the flip side when testing we did not have to balance the Oil Resource vs use in game.
However we did spend ages playing against the AI, making it better to give the solo player a cracking game 🤯

captain0

@TheDog
Thankyou for reply.
I understand what you/re saying 100%

The AI us interesting. In a game that I played the AI Germany did not defend the beaches of the West wall but located large groups in infrastructure areas (move 3) to launch counter attacks.

Also n my observation the AI US generally doesn't put up much of a fight in the Pacific v Japan,
Possibly due to confusion and balancing in the Atlantic convoy war and countering subs popping up.
Cheers

TheDog

@captain0 said:

Also n my observation the AI US generally doesn't put up much of a fight in the Pacific v Japan,
Possibly due to confusion and balancing in the Atlantic convoy war and countering subs popping up.

The AI at sea is weak and does need help.
Even with USA AI
Turns 4, 8,12,16,20,24,28,32 AI purchases 3x Fighter, 1x Carrier-Fleet, 1x Cruiser and places in 010 B Sea Zone
and
Turn 2-40, USA AI, purchases 2x Destroyer and places in 010 B Sea Zone

It does not play well, but it does give an OK game for Japan. Maybe it needs more help to be more of a challenge?