💥 1941 Global Command Decision - Official Thread

wc_sumpton

I roll back to 2.6.14656. Removed "requiresUnits" and the game worked as intended. I was able to place land unit in any owned territory, I was able to place a bunker with it restrictions, and was able to place a sea unit with a sub.

Question: Should "requiresUnits" be ignored during bid placement or should it be up to the map makers to remove and reinstate restrictions?

Cheers...

TheDog

Interesting question.

As I dont play PvP and would not use Bids Im not the person to answer the question. I would say keep it the same as 2.5 so players know what they are getting,

I have raise the issue again on GitHub.
https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/issues/12376

TheDog-GH created this issue in triplea-game/triplea

closed 2.6.14650 Bid ships cannot be placed in a SZ that you own with your own ships #12376

wc_sumpton

@thedog said in 1941 Global Command Decision - Official Thread:

As I dont play PvP and would not use Bids Im not the person to answer the question.

Understood, but as a very GOOD map maker, and this problem could be corrected within the xml, your say would be very valuable!

Cheers...

TheDog

An xml property would be good to choose between the two, but i'm conscious of Myrds time.

wc_sumpton

@thedog said in 1941 Global Command Decision - Official Thread:

An xml property would be good to choose between the two, but i'm conscious of Myrds time

You misunderstood. "requiresUnits" can be changed the same way "createsResourcesList" is done for upkeep.

Try this: Roll back TripleA to 2.6.14656, then add the following to you xml (after "Always_True" condition):

<!-- Remove requriements for sea units -->
<attachment name="triggerAttachment_Remove_requiresUnits_All_Seas" attachTo="Germany" javaClass="TriggerAttachment" type="player">
	<option name="conditions" value="conditionAttachment_Always_True"/>
	<option name="unitAttachmentName" value="UnitAttachment" count="unitAttachment"/>
	<option name="unitType" value="$All-Sea$"/>
	<option name="unitProperty" value="requiresUnits" count="-reset-"/>
	<option name="when" value="before:GermanyTechActivation"/>
</attachment>

<!-- Add Industry-Hvy to all sea units -->
<attachment name="triggerAttachment_Restore_Industry-Hvy_All_Seas" attachTo="Germany" javaClass="TriggerAttachment" type="player">
	<option name="conditions" value="conditionAttachment_Always_True"/>
	<option name="unitAttachmentName" value="UnitAttachment" count="unitAttachment"/>
	<option name="unitType" value="$All-Sea$"/>
	<option name="unitProperty" value="requiresUnits" count="-reset-Industry-Hvy"/>
	<option name="uses" value="1"/>
	<option name="when" value="before:GermanyCombatMove"/>
</attachment>

<!-- Add Industry Med to Convoy and Destroyer -->
<attachment name="triggerAttachment_Restore_Industry-Med_2_Units" attachTo="Germany" javaClass="TriggerAttachment" type="player">
	<option name="conditions" value="conditionAttachment_Always_True"/>
	<option name="unitAttachmentName" value="UnitAttachment" count="unitAttachment"/>
	<option name="unitType" value="Convoy:Destroyer"/>
	<!-- Adding so don't use reset -->
	<option name="unitProperty" value="requiresUnits" count="Industry-Med"/>
	<option name="uses" value="1"/>
	<option name="when" value="after:GermanyCombatMove"/>
</attachment>

Don't change anything for air or land units. This works!!

Cheers...

TheDog

Thanks I will try this tomorrow.

TheDog

@wc_sumpton
Now that's clever!!!

Thanks for the code, as it was good to see it working.

More on Bid Placement here
https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/issues/12376

TheDog-GH created this issue in triplea-game/triplea

closed 2.6.14650 Bid ships cannot be placed in a SZ that you own with your own ships #12376

wc_sumpton

@thedog and all;

Should "territoryEffect" option "unitsNotAllowed" affect placement / bid placement?

Using GCD if a Base-Camp were placed in Prypriat which has a "marsh" "territoryEffect" with "unitsNotAllowed" equals "Inf-Motorized", the "Inf-Motorized" can still be placed there.

Cheers...

TheDog

As always you make a very good point.

I too have tested "marsh" "territoryEffect" and I concur.

ezgaming

@wc_sumpton said in 1941 Global Command Decision - Official Thread:

@thedog, @Myrd

OK please forgive me - I had some surgery earlier today and am on some heavy meds.

I was hoping to identify a good long-term location and/or learn how to get the latest version of the TripleA game as well as the newest version of 1941 GCD

THANK YOU

TheDog

@ezgaming
Take it easy and recover, by playing TripleA

Latest TripleA is here (this does not change)
https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases

Latest 1941GCD
Remove the old version and reinstall the new version by;
TripleA Downloads> Installed tab> Highlight 1941 Global Command Decision> Remove
Once removed on New Maps tab and reinstall 1941 Global Command Decision

The 1st post in this thread will always have what you need.
Link to 1st post that has the latest 1941GCD download link and to get the latest TripleA version
https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3326/1941-global-command-decision-official-thread

TheDog

@ezgaming (this post is a duplicate of the one in Development as ezgaming might not read it)

Myrd/asvitkine has been working this past week to fix TripleA 2.6 Bid & Bid Placement, you can now;

buy units upto the maxBuiltPerPlayer limit
place infinite or stacking/placementLimit units per territory or sea zone
place land units in any territory you own (no 'factory' required)
place ship units in any friendly sea zone with ship(s) of the same owner already in it
Construction/immobile units placed obeys upgrade rules and canOnlyBePlacedInTerritoryValuedAtX
Units can only be placed if territoryEffect unitsNotAllowed allows them

Note this is probably different to the way that 2.5 Bid & Bid Placement works and the 2.6 manual should reflect the above.

ezgaming

@thedog THANK YOU !

ezgaming

@thedog I wish I had your skills with Mac OS. Because I am still not sure where to get what - and do we need to be running TripleA 2.5 AND 2.6?

Im surprised but I am so lost so if you could please spell out how and what I need to get I would be most gRATEFULL

I

TheDog

@ezgaming
Just in case you have not seen this
https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3724/how-to-have-triplea-2-5-2-6-installed-at-the-same-time

Ask your questions there, hopefully I or a Mac user can help you.

beelee

@ezgaming you can't DL GCD with the latest triplea ? Found here https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases/tag/2.6.14683

Macs have had issues with triplea for as long as I can remember. 15 years plus. They are ongoing.

Can you download and play Global Command Decision with the above triple prerelease ?

Edit

Idk if this is relevant or not
https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/pull/12420

Screenshot from 2024-03-10 03-40-08.png

DanVanAtta created this issue in triplea-game/triplea

closed Remove 'xms' and 'xmx' from vmoptions file #12420

ezgaming

@thedog OK I installed Triplea 2.6 (which contains the GCD map/game) and installed a version of Triplea 2.5 in a non-standard location on my Mac.

I have no idea what 2.5 is for but all the pieces seem to be in place - but when I start the game, I get an invasion of Russia despite me having done nothing but opening the game.

https://www.wilderness.com/TRIPLEA/Screenshot_2024-03-10at16.25.png

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wc_sumpton

@ezgaming

The German invasion!!!

Did you give a bid a player, This is a know problem with GCD version prior to 165. You can download that version here.

Hope this helps you!!

Cheers...

TheDog

@ezgaming
or do this
Latest 1941GCD
Remove the old version and reinstall the new version by;
TripleA Downloads> Installed tab> Highlight 1941 Global Command Decision> Remove
Once removed on New Maps tab and install 1941 Global Command Decision

.
Also,
You should put the relief layer on with the menu
View> Tick Show map details

This will also show the territory effects on the map, oh and it will make it look good.

ezgaming

@thedog I started over - then followed your instructions (I think) and removed the GCD map - but a new map will not load. See attached

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Some questions that might help:

Q1. Is the current intent to use the Triplea v 2.6 engine to make the GCD game (the map) available? In other words, go to https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases and get 2024-March-09 - 2.6.14683 and that would have GCD in it?

Q2. The statement that we must have version 2.5 running is not something I can relate to. What is the purpose of people mentioning dual running 2.5 and v2.6?

When I first joined this group and reached out to you guys last year I found myself EXTREMELY positive on this game's potential.

And my intent has always been to help you guys as much as I can to get this VERY SUPERIOR and VERY FUN TO PLAY version of TripleA out there in the world. IMHO 1941 GCD is one of the best games ever in this genre.

But I cannot even get the game to run at this point and with all the "very confusing and complex for me" instructions over the past couple weeks I am even more lost than ever.

I think one thing that would help is if someone was to lay out the steps required to take to get the game to just run.

I recall back in summer of 2023 I only ran into this German Invasion of Russia when I tried to add a bid or other resource modifier.

But like I said, at this point I cannot even get the game to run again but I am not an expert at this sort of thing.

So I would like to offer to be the GCD-guinea pig if someone could write a 1941-GCD FOR SUPER DUMMIES THAT ARE USING A MAC

Maybe if we had some simple (for you guys) step by step instructions I could help nail down what works and what does not.

Cheers and THANK YOU