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    Donation Drive 2024

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Donation Drive 2025/26
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      NGMC
      last edited by

      I still cannot donate. I tried with my credit card. The system will not take it. Sorry.

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        NGMC
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        When I click the final button to "Create Account and Donate" it does nothing.

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          prastle Moderators Admin @NGMC
          last edited by prastle

          @ngmc you need to donate through Paypal. I have never tried the new credit card setup. I am unsure if that works. Just pay through Paypal and use your credit card if you wish.

          If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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            prastle Moderators Admin @RogerCooper
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            @rogercooper Thanks RG we have two monthly donations now I believe but ill double check. 🙂 Sadly paypal robs us of a percentage every payment. Thus it is actually better for a lump sum donation than monthly. l will get back to you with the costs shortly. I mainly noticed it on the lower sums. This was why I raised the min to 5 bucks on paypal. (edited in --5bucks costs us 49 cents. 10 bucks costs us 69 cents. 50 bucks costs us 2,25 . 100 costs us 4.00 bucks)

            If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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              prastle Moderators Admin @prastle
              last edited by prastle

              @prastle Out of all the donations we have received since Dec 10th 2023 there were only these notes attached ... I will try to cross reference all these email addresses against our database to identify users. BUT! if your payment was through a diff email registered for your payments we have no idea who you are! Thus PLEASE ATTACH AN FFING NOTE TO YOUR DONATION THROUGH PAYPAL! It makes life a lot simpler.

              These players are listed here.

              Farmboy
              EWS (Eyes Wide Shut) 🙂 Hi EWS nice to see ya back 🙂
              SdKfz_164
              patton_77
              Roger Cooper

              Currently TripleA has just over 1g in the paypal account ... I would like to point out that $975 was recieved in the last 20 days. WOW! We are halfway towards our Goal of 2 g. Realistically $1700 if we remove the ladder. Thanks again to ALL!

              If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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                NGMC @prastle
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                @prastle Unfortunately, I do not have a Paypal account.

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                  EyesWideShut 0 @prastle
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                  @prastle amazing! I'll donate more in the event we need a good "kicker" to hit the 2k mark. Some of these creative ideas like a donation-based subscription makes a lot of sense as it would maintain a more regularized cash flow as opposed to emergency pleas :). With that said, I don't have any problems with the current outcry at the triplea lobby as it pushes for urgency.

                  @prastle @ubernaut @airwalker, re: ladder. @airwalker has established a credible ladder that's not website based (it is an open source google doc where players immediately post their results, but only for liveplay). My concern for airwalker is that the maintenance upkeep must be too much without a website. He's effectively doing it all alone -- a position I don't find too admirable.

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                    ubernaut Moderators @NGMC
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                    @ngmc you dont need one use this button:!Screenshot 2024-01-04 at 4.58.23 PM.png

                    "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                      ubernaut Moderators @EyesWideShut 0
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                      @eyeswideshut-0 yeah the only issue is there would be no way to enter his records into the new site which is ready to go already

                      "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                        LaFayette Admin
                        last edited by LaFayette

                        Currently TripleA has just over 1g in the paypal account ... I would like to point out that $975 was recieved in the last 20 days. WOW!

                        I don't think this can be underrated. The TripleA community remains strong, will remain strong! Thank you everyone for pitching in. More is better, but at least we won't be turning off bots in a month. :bottle_with_popping_cork:


                        I would like to speak to the finances a bit as the concern has been raised. We have three sources of cost:

                        • DNS domain that we purchased (IIRC I payed for 10 years of this, not an issue until I think 2026)
                        • Ladder (that Uber & Prastle have been working on)
                        • Linode (servers)

                        Out of linode, there are four types of servers:

                        • lobby
                        • forum
                        • bots
                        • MARTI dice roller

                        Here is a breakdown from our last invoice:

                        Screenshot from 2024-01-04 19-09-27.png

                        FWIW, $5/month for a 1-core cloud instance is the best rate that I know of. AWS, Azure, Google are each more expensive than that (AFAIK)

                        We do have some opportunity for cost savings:

                        • immediately the backups of the old lobby can be discontinued, saving $5
                        • if we rewrite the marti dice server, we can put that new application on an existing server and then turn off 'old lobby running marti' , saving $24
                        • some of the bots are not running very well right now, cleaning them up and removing one would save another $5
                        • There is a medium/long term plan to change the 'bot' technology (network relay); potentially removing the need for more bot servers

                        Overall, we're now at $97/month, looks like we can get down to $68/month if we can execute on that dice server move.

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                          NGMC @ubernaut
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                          @ubernaut I have tried to use that button several times. After I've entered all my information and click on "Create Account and Donate", it does nothing.

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                            ubernaut Moderators @LaFayette
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                            @lafayette @Panther we should post this to axisandallies.org imo

                            "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                              ubernaut Moderators @NGMC
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                              @ngmc have you treid on more than one device/browser?

                              "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                                airwalker Moderators @LaFayette
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                                @lafayette Thank you very much for providing such detail and addressing the issue of costs. I feel much better about the future of the game knowing that it's properly managed. The website for a ladder ( speaking of my own ) is so much less important if the game itself requires a last minute bailout. I can continue plugging away at a spreadsheet for now. I would suggest the lobby message be updated as well to reflect that things are in better shape. I don't know if it's a coincidence, but I've noticed less lobby traffic since its posting.

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                                  beelee @ubernaut
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                                  @ubernaut said in Donation Drive 2024:

                                  @lafayette @Panther we should post this to axisandallies.org imo

                                  already did. There kickin in too 🙂

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                                    AdamF @prastle
                                    last edited by

                                    @prastle Wondering aloud if we should remove the "out of money" note in lobby?

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                                      straun @LaFayette
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                                      @lafayette Yeah I'm not really against a recurring payment or even monthly I play so damned much, but I'm probably in the minority. I'm glad we're posting the info in the lobby. Truthfully I probably have more global games in me than any person on the planet yet I never use the forums so never knew about hwo the finances worked:)

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                                        jbwood53
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                                        Donated $50. Thanks!

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                                          zlefin Moderators
                                          last edited by

                                          I'm wondering which people are able to change the lobby message; AFAICT a regular mod cannot; so does it take an admin, or something else?

                                          Either way it would be nice to calm people down and thank them for the donations by updating the note that things are better now, though not perfect by any means.

                                          In terms of lowering costs, maybe we should prioritize the plan to revamp the lobby-bot system?

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                                            Panther Admin Moderators @zlefin
                                            last edited by Panther

                                            @zlefin said in Donation Drive 2024:

                                            I'm wondering which people are able to change the lobby message; AFAICT a regular mod cannot; so does it take an admin, or something else?

                                            This was the pull-request behind it, IMHO, made by @LaFayette :
                                            https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/pull/12246

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