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    Tournament of Champions (Season 4) for AA 50 Anniversary '41 version

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved V341 - 42 (AA 50 Anniversary)
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    • B Offline
      Beck Moderators
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      @raville i think sticking to edit /no edition problem is your best point,speaking of % of battle and game play and anything else makes u look bad

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      • prastleP Offline
        prastle Moderators Admin
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        @general_zod sigh your not being helpful ...

        If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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        • prastleP Offline
          prastle Moderators Admin
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          @general_zod I guess i can just see both sides of the story. You clearly knew you needed to save a land unit going into the battle. Apparently you clicked through it while chatting? Either way YOU both AGREED TO NO EDITS! Thus (which i never do since we are all human) you are both correct. You also won a 29% battle to be blunt. So is he wrong with requesting you not to edit?

          If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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          • General_ZodG Offline
            General_Zod Moderators
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            @prastle

            I'm not debating that, anymore.

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            • prastleP Offline
              prastle Moderators Admin @Raville
              last edited by prastle

              @raville @General_Zod I hope you both bury the hatchet and move on. I will not overrule the judges decision but i will say this OOL MEANS nothing in a live game.. PBEM yes In alive game the player is responsible for his own ool.

              If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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              • General_ZodG Offline
                General_Zod Moderators @prastle
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                @prastle

                Hypthetical question.

                If an attacking player chooses fighters and bombers as casualties before a tank for 2 combat rounds. What do you think that same player will do on combat round 3 of that same battle? Note this player destroyed all enemy units on the above mentioned combat round 3. Also note the territory is a capital. Also note this likely ends the game.

                Hmm, I wonder will the player all of a sudden change his established pattern of ool?

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                • prastleP Offline
                  prastle Moderators Admin @General_Zod
                  last edited by

                  @general_zod this isn't the point gz. It's a live game you pick your own OOL. The main reason I am debating this is @cernel and I pointed this out years ago. We were ignored. Which means this will continue to occur every tournament forever unless all tourney players agree to allow minor edits.

                  If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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                  • prastleP Offline
                    prastle Moderators Admin @General_Zod
                    last edited by

                    @general_zod You are fully aware of this problem. Which means you chatted through your click? I wasn't the one that agreed to no edits... Thus I can see both sides of the fence..

                    If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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                    • General_ZodG Offline
                      General_Zod Moderators @prastle
                      last edited by

                      @prastle Just answer the above question. And I will be happy.

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                      • prastleP Offline
                        prastle Moderators Admin @General_Zod
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                        @general_zod the issue is not about whether anyone thought they didn't understand what you were doing. (Thus why the judges approved your win.) the issue is whether or not an agreed rule base between two opponents can be overruled by the judges ... Especially when you clearly knew what you were doing before the battle commenced... So to extrapolate further does this mean every game that is agreed to no edits needs a ruling from now on in every toc if I accidentally clicked through it? Or does this mean they will fix the engine finally so that ya cant click through while chatting?

                        If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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                        • C Offline
                          Cernel Moderators @General_Zod
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                          @general_zod I don't think that question needs an answer as I think it has been always clear that nobody (comprising @Raville ) doubts that you misclicked. Nobody is contesting that.
                          @Raville just argued that it was in his right to take advantage of your obvious mistake, that he always knew was a mistake.

                          I don't believe it is currently against our rules accusing somebody else to cheat, either in forum or in the lobby, or requesting clarifications / assurance about that (not up to me to make the rules; so just add that to the rules, at anyone who can do that, if you want to have it as a forum / lobby rule, or open a discussion in Bunker about adding that rule).

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                          • General_ZodG Offline
                            General_Zod Moderators @Cernel
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                            @cernel Mine is set to true. Your suggestion sounds worth noting. Since we all chat during live games.

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                            • prastleP Offline
                              prastle Moderators Admin @General_Zod
                              last edited by

                              @general_zod correct and its still broken

                              If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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                              • C Offline
                                Cernel Moderators @General_Zod
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                                @general_zod You really need to have that option set to False, otherwise if you are in a battle, and the battle is not proceeding, then you can't chat at all, or you risk to confirm the autoselection. Never chatting while a battle is going on or might start is not much of an option, since it is not rare that people surrender in the middle of a battle, and you cannot just stay silent, but, if you chat, then you are at risk of confirming what you don't want to.

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                                • prastleP Offline
                                  prastle Moderators Admin @Cernel
                                  last edited by

                                  @cernel i have actually had it still occur on occasion as false cer but it is a lot more of a rare thing.

                                  If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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                                  • W Offline
                                    Wasp
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                                    Well, how about a quick game update to distract us from the newly anointed "Tokyo incident".

                                    Wasp(axis) vs Deltium(allies)
                                    Allies believe American high command when they tell of how the war can be won, submarines boys! We shall drive the Japanese from the pacific and force her to her knees! At least...was the hope. More and more American subs steadily force a determined Jap defense to bend and bend. Meanwhile...in europe the axis bide their time with parties and tales of victory on the eastern front. Italian Blackshirts then advanced the tip of the spear! Fast moving columns catch old Stalin by surprise and force the Red army back into defensive positions around Moscow. Unable to break the german/italian siege of the russian heartland, the british attempt to relieve pressure by attrition. Ultimately, moscow falls and the american hope to contain or destroy japan has failed. Let the story of Germania begin. History will now be told by the Reich!

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                                    • RavilleR Offline
                                      Raville
                                      last edited by Raville

                                      Hi all, @Deltium @prastle @general_zod @cernel about the "Tokyo incident" I found this interesting and clear rule:

                                      AA50 1941/1942 Ladder Rules
                                      Last Update: July 06, 2010

                                      Lobby Ladder Games
                                      Combat Move and Non-Combat Move
                                      The ladder is about competitive games. It is the responsibility of players to review the board before they press Done on each combat phase. By accepting a live ladder game, you are denying yourself the move-practicing opportunities in a PBEM game. Major strategical errors should generally be allowed to edit. An example would be protecting a capital by 1 infantry that blocks a tank column (1). Remember it is your responsibility to review the board, not your opponents responsibility to allow you an edit, do NOT expect minor edits to be allowed. Players MUST decide what level of editing they will allow before the game begins.

                                      (1) Furthermore, this concept runs into Japan's favor before the attack, but was out as NOT EDITION AT ALL.

                                      Good games to all

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                                      • DeltiumD Offline
                                        Deltium Moderators
                                        last edited by

                                        Icelander defeats TimeLord, by forfeit, and due to no response to multiple warnings.

                                        TripleA Tournament Director

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                                        • prastleP Offline
                                          prastle Moderators Admin @Deltium
                                          last edited by

                                          @deltium General Zod Defeats Prastle due to edit disagreements ... Great game gz I am sorry we don't see eye to eye

                                          If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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                                          • M Offline
                                            Mogwai
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                                            Mogwai (Axis) defeats Andrew3 (Allies), a bunch of stuff happened, here's the game file.0_1521172913000_Andrew3TOC13J.tsvg

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