TWW 3.0.9? NTSH (ax) v (al) ubernaut Game 4

Panther

In V3 Paratroopers may retreat if attacking along with land units from adjacent territories.
As this was not given in that specific case. I confirmed @ubernaut 's decision.

Just for completeness: Paratroopers in Global 1940 may retreat if attacking along with land units from
adjacent territories, too.

I reworded my above answer a bit, to make clear, that 'correct' referred to @ubernaut 's decision - and not to what the engine seemed to have allowed, provided we are under a v3 or Global1940 ruleset.

Cernel

@Panther Yah, thanks. It was not clear to me if the correct was for the program or @ubernaut's. I'll take a look at the save (Haven't.) and consider if to make a problem report.

Cernel

Yes, there is definitely a program problem here. The program allows paratroopers to retreat whence their air transports entered the embattled territory if they did so from a land zone (in this case, Syria). I'm fairly certain this is not a TWW thing, but I'll test it using V3 just to make sure (as that would also be a better reference for a problem report).

Cernel

https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/issues/14988

ubernaut

@Cernel did you see the thing with the naval retreat allowing the transport to retreat into sz 72?

@panther the reason it was doing this is bc i scrambled the naval fighters into 53 and can win that battle forcing a retreat of the transport

ubernaut

@Panther and thanks for confirming that

Cernel

@ubernaut said:

@Cernel did you see the thing with the naval retreat allowing the transport to retreat into sz 72?

I did not look around at all. Can you give me the game-save and tell me which round and whose turn I should look at?

Nothingtoseehere

@Cernel: It isn't in the save, just something @ubernaut noticed in testing.

Cernel

@Nothingtoseehere said:

@Cernel: It isn't in the save, just something @ubernaut noticed in testing.

Ok. What should I do exactly to reproduce it?

ubernaut

@Cernel so wat you need to is load this before battle save:

autosaveBeforeBattle.tsvg

scramble the fighters from transjordan to sz 53 then retreat the german forces in that sea battle sz 72 (the red sea will be available as a retreat option. this should not be possible since allies hold the canal

but also i think there might be a bigger problem here, @panther in naval battle forces should only be able to retreat along the path(s) they followed into battle right?

i have noticed the engine allowing similar alternative not taken paths as retreat options in recent games. in this one i think it allows 4 different option when it should allow only one i believe (sz52)

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ubernaut

@malmessi this is the turn start i cant tell what is happening in your battle but it sounds like you figured out you accidentally did a bombing raid and not an attack is that right?

Cernel

@ubernaut Yah, that's crazy to be sure. You should be able to retreat only to 52 Sea Zone (being whence the transport came).

I confirm the problem (on Windows 10). Do you intend to report it?