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    Game 1 EXP Trout vs Johnny Cat

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      beelee @JohnnyCat
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      @johnnycat

      UHD stands for "Ultra High Definition" I think. Black Elk made it for bigger monitors or 5g or idk about all the graphic stuff.

      Mac's have historically been problematic with triplea engine.

      I will post a step by step here after a bit

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        Trout @JohnnyCat
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        @johnnycat If I understand correctly, you were able to do a test game against yourself on your Mac. So that means the map version you were using for that test game had no issues with your Mac. Unless I am missing something.

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          JohnnyCat @Trout
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          @trout yes I've been able to play this UHD game for months now.

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            JohnnyCat
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            Screenshot 2025-11-24 at 8.06.16 PM.png

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              JohnnyCat
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              FREE HAND PAINTED GAME PIECES !!!??? I want that...

              Anyway this is the cover page for this game. Seems different from Trout's...

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                beelee @JohnnyCat
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                @johnnycat

                Hi Cat

                Uggh that was a brutal football game but the whiners won 🙂 Had an unexpected college basketball game before that. 🙂

                So, I think most likey you and Trout have a different "map" version of the game. As I stated above "2.52" is the latest.

                Start up a local game and let us know what version it is

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                  JohnnyCat @beelee
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                  @beelee I just did - and there is no version number that is what I just posted.

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                    JohnnyCat
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                    what football game?

                    Here is what shows up at the tail end of the info fileScreenshot 2025-11-24 at 8.25.18 PM.png

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                      beelee @JohnnyCat
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                      @johnnycat

                      yea so start a local game of "Global 40 Expansion UHD Boxes"

                      Screenshot from 2025-11-24 22-31-22.png

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                      What comes up when you do that ?

                      Oh 49ers MNF 🙂 Was a poorly played game by both teams 🙂

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                        beelee @beelee
                        last edited by beelee

                        @JohnnyCat

                        Ahh I just looked at your picture again. It says you have 2.52 in the Change Log.

                        I am going to start a game for us and we will see if we can get it to work

                        Edit
                        I will need your Marti email to set it up

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                          JohnnyCat
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                          Screenshot 2025-11-25 at 11.01.18 AM.png

                          I can load various game saves of my own so the issue seems to be related to when I load this save of our first turn from @Trout

                          But Trout just saved his first turn as normal... Also I logged a bug fix as you can see

                          Screenshot 2025-11-25 at 11.04.50 AM.png

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                            wc_sumpton @JohnnyCat
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                            @johnnycat

                            You are reporting on an error with version 2.7.14962. The cause of this error, ERROR o.t.game.client.HeadedGameRunner - null java.lang.NullPointerException: null. This is a null value stored in the saved game header and has already rectify. This may make some newer version save incompatibility with older versions. This 'save incompatibility' does not happen all the time. @Trout is using 2.7.15256, you @beelee are using 2.7.14962. Ask @beelee if he can open the save game, I could not using 2.7.14962. I was able to use 2.7.15025 and load @Trout's da2aa41c-2e53-4842-b48e-19ad613c9a5a-exp-game-1-jc-g1.tsvg saved game.
                            Even though a higher version can open a lower version save, the reverse may not hold true.
                            Hope this is helpful, please direct any further inquiries regarding this matter directly to your in-game representative 🤣 @beelee 😵.

                            Cheers...

                            P.S. A 2.7.15025 save was still incapnot work able with 2.7.14962, so reposting a save will not help. Everyone needs to be on the same map version because the saved game contains a lot of map specific information and can cause a lot of incapability issues. Also 2.7 higher 15026 may not work with lower versions. Although this issue is kind of hit or miss.

                            Again Cheers...

                            And etcetera...
                            It was this saved game, da2aa41c-2e53-4842-b48e-19ad613c9a5a-exp-game-1-jc-g1.tsvg, from @Trout that has been the bane of my past few days. It will not work with 2.7.15278 because of an 'any' problem, won't work with 2.7.14962 because of a 'null' in the save file header.
                            Please, please... help @JohnnyCat, get this game rolling. Give a guy (me) a break 😵🤣

                            Cheers...

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                              beelee
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                              @wc_sumpton

                              Good Afternoon Gentleman

                              Yea I couldn't get Trout's save to work either when he first posted it. So It must be the triplea engine versions.

                              Trout had recently updated but our current game continued to work, so i didn't give it much thought.

                              I'm not really sure the status of the latest prerelease, so @Trout , I'd suggest using 14962 or whatever one it was you were using when we started our last game and trying another save.

                              https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases/tag/2.7.14962

                              @JohnnyCat I will start a test for us just to see if we can get it to work and there isn't some other problem.

                              I will do that directly 🙂

                              Edit
                              I just tried to load Trouts save again and it doesn't work. I should have ciphered that sooner but then mental failures are nothing new to me 🙂

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                              @JohnnyCat try using this save and select pbem.

                              EXP Cat Test Game 1.tsvg

                              It should take you to the German Purchase window. It should say "Dice Server On" bottom right

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                                wc_sumpton @beelee
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                                @beelee said in Game 1 EXP Trout vs Johnny Cat:

                                Yea I couldn't get Trout's save to work either when he first posted it. So It must be the triplea engine versions.

                                Your last game may have been started with 2.7.14926, which would have created the game header. The game header information is stored and read like the xml. Even though @Trout may have used a different version, the stored/old header is still written to the save file.
                                Here @Trout is creating the first save, so his version is creating the header.

                                Cheers...

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                                  beelee @wc_sumpton
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                                  @wc_sumpton

                                  yea thought it might be something like that. Shoulda picked up on this sooner lol 😊

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                                    wc_sumpton @beelee
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                                    @beelee

                                    When things work, things work. It's when they don't work that problems start. Don't be too hard on yourself, you catch a lot of things others don't see.
                                    exp-cat-test-game-1.tsvg on 2.7.14926 👍 on 2.7.15025 👎 on 2.7.15256 🤞 didn't test because I don't have a copy loaded.

                                    Cheers...

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                                      beelee @wc_sumpton
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                                      @wc_sumpton

                                      This lady brought here car to my mechanic buddy. "It was working just fine and now it doesn't"

                                      He goes "yea things work and they work and when they break, they don't work anymore "

                                      🙂

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                                        JohnnyCat
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                                        Thank for any help. I've been playing this game solo for many months and long to actually play a person.

                                        And Mister Tasty Fish is the perfect Mark, ah I mean highly skilled competitor, for this slaughter, ah I mean well balance game of whits and skills.

                                        Those Nazi scum will PAY for taking Paris !

                                        PS. This is far more interesting than watching a bunch of rich kids on steroids get paid to play with a ball, moooohafahaha

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                                          beelee @JohnnyCat
                                          last edited by

                                          @johnnycat

                                          were you able to get the save I made to work ?

                                          EXP Cat Test Game 1.tsvg

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                                            JohnnyCat @beelee
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                                            @beelee Yes I was able to select Start Local Game and your save and it worked fine

                                            But if I tried Play By Forum is got this

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