Game 1 EXP Trout vs Johnny Cat
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@beelee said in Game 1 EXP Trout vs Johnny Cat:
https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases/tag/2.7.15279
I am CLUELESS as to what to do...
Installed the latest tripleA version 2.7.14962
Tried to uninstall the Global 40 Expansion UHD (what a silly name. And what is this UHD thing mean?) and triplea said I removed it, but then said I had it, but then said I did not, blah blah ... just wacky behavior and I was unable to find any way to download the Global 40 UHD Boxes
I am on a Mac and this game has worked find for me in the past but now I cannot even find anything that allows me to install the game/map...
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@johnnycat That’s wise. I am pretty sure Windows is not necessary for me to kick around some American GI’s in a game of G40. Hah!
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It seems clear that I do not have the latest map and do not know how to get it since the usual way, via the tripleA program, does not seem to find it.
So is there some manual way to install the correct map? On a Mac I should add...
THank you
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UHD stands for "Ultra High Definition" I think. Black Elk made it for bigger monitors or 5g or idk about all the graphic stuff.
Mac's have historically been problematic with triplea engine.
I will post a step by step here after a bit
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@johnnycat If I understand correctly, you were able to do a test game against yourself on your Mac. So that means the map version you were using for that test game had no issues with your Mac. Unless I am missing something.
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@trout yes I've been able to play this UHD game for months now.
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FREE HAND PAINTED GAME PIECES !!!??? I want that...
Anyway this is the cover page for this game. Seems different from Trout's...
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Hi Cat
Uggh that was a brutal football game but the whiners won
Had an unexpected college basketball game before that. So, I think most likey you and Trout have a different "map" version of the game. As I stated above "2.52" is the latest.
Start up a local game and let us know what version it is
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@beelee I just did - and there is no version number that is what I just posted.
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what football game?
Here is what shows up at the tail end of the info file
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yea so start a local game of "Global 40 Expansion UHD Boxes"
What comes up when you do that ?
Oh 49ers MNF
Was a poorly played game by both teams -
Ahh I just looked at your picture again. It says you have 2.52 in the Change Log.
I am going to start a game for us and we will see if we can get it to work
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I will need your Marti email to set it up -
I can load various game saves of my own so the issue seems to be related to when I load this save of our first turn from @Trout
But Trout just saved his first turn as normal... Also I logged a bug fix as you can see
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You are reporting on an error with version 2.7.14962. The cause of this error,
ERROR o.t.game.client.HeadedGameRunner - null java.lang.NullPointerException: null. This is a null value stored in the saved game header and has already rectify. This may make some newer version save incompatibility with older versions. This 'save incompatibility' does not happen all the time. @Trout is using 2.7.15256, you @beelee are using 2.7.14962. Ask @beelee if he can open the save game, I could not using 2.7.14962. I was able to use 2.7.15025 and load @Trout's da2aa41c-2e53-4842-b48e-19ad613c9a5a-exp-game-1-jc-g1.tsvg saved game.
Even though a higher version can open a lower version save, the reverse may not hold true.
Hope this is helpful, please direct any further inquiries regarding this matter directly to your in-game representative
@beelee 
.Cheers...
P.S. A 2.7.15025 save was still incapnot work able with 2.7.14962, so reposting a save will not help. Everyone needs to be on the same map version because the saved game contains a lot of map specific information and can cause a lot of incapability issues. Also 2.7 higher 15026 may not work with lower versions. Although this issue is kind of hit or miss.
Again Cheers...
And etcetera...
It was this saved game, da2aa41c-2e53-4842-b48e-19ad613c9a5a-exp-game-1-jc-g1.tsvg, from @Trout that has been the bane of my past few days. It will not work with 2.7.15278 because of an 'any' problem, won't work with 2.7.14962 because of a 'null' in the save file header.
Please, please... help @JohnnyCat, get this game rolling. Give a guy (me) a breakCheers...
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Good Afternoon Gentleman
Yea I couldn't get Trout's save to work either when he first posted it. So It must be the triplea engine versions.
Trout had recently updated but our current game continued to work, so i didn't give it much thought.
I'm not really sure the status of the latest prerelease, so @Trout , I'd suggest using 14962 or whatever one it was you were using when we started our last game and trying another save.
https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases/tag/2.7.14962
@JohnnyCat I will start a test for us just to see if we can get it to work and there isn't some other problem.
I will do that directly
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I just tried to load Trouts save again and it doesn't work. I should have ciphered that sooner but then mental failures are nothing new to meEdit 2
@JohnnyCat try using this save and select pbem.It should take you to the German Purchase window. It should say "Dice Server On" bottom right
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@beelee said in Game 1 EXP Trout vs Johnny Cat:
Yea I couldn't get Trout's save to work either when he first posted it. So It must be the triplea engine versions.
Your last game may have been started with 2.7.14926, which would have created the game header. The game header information is stored and read like the xml. Even though @Trout may have used a different version, the stored/old header is still written to the save file.
Here @Trout is creating the first save, so his version is creating the header.Cheers...
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yea thought it might be something like that. Shoulda picked up on this sooner lol
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When things work, things work. It's when they don't work that problems start. Don't be too hard on yourself, you catch a lot of things others don't see.
exp-cat-test-game-1.tsvg on 2.7.14926
on 2.7.15025 
on 2.7.15256 
didn't test because I don't have a copy loaded.Cheers...
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This lady brought here car to my mechanic buddy. "It was working just fine and now it doesn't"
He goes "yea things work and they work and when they break, they don't work anymore "
