EXP G40 Game 4 Trout vs JCat

Trout

@johnnycat Good morning JC. See my questions to Beelee so will await his answers before proceeding. FYI for you, is that your DOW triggers the 10 IPCs for Commies. I think I am going to place a tank in the east and add 5 IPCs to my bank but I will think about it a bit more

JohnnyCat

@trout OK so just FYI as I finished my last turn I saw that I clicked done and placed... and then realized that I had not moved a AA gun.

I guess I should have just told T to move it for me. Instead I turned on the editor but that would not work.

So I went to the history and saved the game at that placement point, then reloaded that game, and was able to move the AA gun with the editor...

Then I saved the gave, and sent it to T

But then I noticed that there were 2 tanks in Urals which should only be 1.

And in my play testing I too noticed that there were NO RUSSIAN TANK GENERAL units to buy ; those $8 ones.

I also noticed that I could buy the new MOBILE ARTILLERY units !!! But now I cannot and do not see them.

beelee

Hi Guys

This happens with the last posted save then ?

Edit
Somehow G3 must have got corrupted. I went back to the F save and clicked through to R 3 and the TG is there.

I'll try and reproduce Cat's turn when I get back from the store. I can't see why the trigger to buy the TG didn't fire but I'll continue to look at it.

For now, use the F 2 save and redo G3.

JohnnyCat

@beelee OK thanks. I will get on it.

JohnnyCat

@trout I took @beelee 's advice and just redid turn 3.

We are so early in this game that redoing the turn was trivial. No combat...

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This "Trade with Russia" is nice so no DOW this turn. I was so overwhelmed by our first games I did not have the attention span to figure out all those IPC deals/bonuses/awards/penalties and this game I am putting some effort into that because the "Money is Everything" principle probably applies here.

And my new Plan for Italy centered on that principle as you can see. I am sure there are plenty of ways to counter that Italy-Takes-Paris move but so far it looks like a great way to get Italy to get into the game in a bigger way than usual.

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So thank you for the peaceful trading Mister Russia. We Germans are honest and peaceful and we just love the trading we are doing so please keep trading with us.

Trout

@johnnycat Game History

Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Note to players Russians: <body><b>It is Early 1941 and The Soviet Union can Form up to 2 Tank Armies.<br><br><img src="Tank_General.png"/><br><br><br />You may purchase 1 Tank General per turn.<b></body>
        Note to players Russians: It is Early 1941 and The Soviet Union has Tankograd Up and Running !     Russia receives 1 Free Tank per turn as long as they control the Urals.
        Trigger TankGeneral: buyTank_General added to productionRussians
        Russians buy 1 Tank_General, 3 armour, 1 artillery and 1 elite; Remaining resources: 13 PUs; 3 AirLendLease; 3 TankLendLease; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRussians: Russians has 1 R_Europe_Rail and 2 Russian_Rails placed in Russia
        Note to players Japanese: The Godless Communists Attack Japan! After Russian Combat Move Japan May Immediately Place the Amount of PUs it Cost Russia to Declare War in Units in any Non Combat Japanese Controlled Terr....
        1 Soviet_Commisar moved from Kazakhstan to Szechwan
        2 armour moved from Kazakhstan to Szechwan
        1 mech_infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Szechwan
        2 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Tsinghai

    Combat - Russians
        Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 113 Sea Zone

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        Trigger Wolfpack at113 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 113 Sea Zone
        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveRussians: has removed 1 R_Europe_Rail and 2 Russian_Rails owned by Russians in Belarus
        1 infantry moved from Belarus to Novgorod
        1 aaGun moved from Belarus to Novgorod
        1 elite moved from Bryansk to Belarus
        2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
        1 elite moved from Russia to Bryansk
        1 Soviet_Commisar moved from Russia to Belarus
        1 armour moved from Russia to Belarus
        2 russian_paras moved from Russia to Caucasus
        1 armour moved from Kazakhstan to Russia
        1 armour moved from Urals to Russia
        1 Russian_Rail and 1 artillery moved from Russia to Belarus
        1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 11 infantry moved from Buryatia to Amur
        2 infantry moved from Sakha to Amur
        2 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska
        10 mine_unarmeds moved from Bryansk to Belarus
        1 Russian_Rail moved from Russia to Caucasus
        1 Russian_Rail and 1 armour moved from Caucasus to Belarus
        1 R_Europe_Rail moved from Russia to Caucasus
        1 R_Europe_Rail and 1 mech_infantry moved from Caucasus to Belarus

    Place Units - Russians
        1 artillery placed in Novgorod
        1 Tank_General, 3 armour and 1 elite placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 50 PUs

Actually by rule Soviets cannot declare war on Nazis until R4 at the earliest. So yes glad to remain at peace with you Adolf ... for now.
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JohnnyCat

@trout You monster - you attacked the peaceful japaneses

Well that was a costly turn for me. I lost 2 planes and had to choose - fighter or tank...
Caught me totally by surprise. Well sort of...

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So running in all those fancy Commie units to die, and the Flying Tigers too! WOW this is going to be another incredible game.

But this time I will have a hundred inf in Japan by the time you land there, hehehe.

Trout

@johnnycat Hello there. I have not opened the file but am going to guess that you will need to redo your J4. Those Commies that rolled into Yunnan were the 1st Commissar Army so if you do still attack, you should lose a lot more than two planes unless you get the lucky dice of course

JohnnyCat

@trout OMG that’s right

Darn this game is so difficult.

Ok well can you teach me how to do it ?

JohnnyCat

@trout so in my simulations I did not give you extra rolls. But I still easily wiped out the stack so I guess I might lose at most another two planes.

Good catch. Of course they weren’t in their little special units so I forget all about that.

I truly love this game but I doubt many more people will learn to play it.

Trout

@johnnycat I think you just need to send the Commissar to his box on top of the map and replace him with an activated Commissar using Edit Mode before you roll dice. If you don’t know which one is an activated one then hover your mouse over them until you find the ones that say they provide the extra dice rolls. For your war planning, the Commie Army should roll 5 “3s” and 1 “2”.

JohnnyCat

@trout
could you send me the file with it set up? Or photos of what to do?

There are commissars all over the top bar - some can be moved but I have no idea what to do to get it to work.

Maybe if you show me what I am trying to do - with the correct units in that territory the game will roll correctly?

JohnnyCat

@trout

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So the game appears to have given your 19 units 21 defense rolls.

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But I am not good enough to read this table and know much more than that.

So did I do it right this time? I still lost 2 planes but whatever. I just want to ensure I did it correctly .

beelee

@johnnycat

Hi Cat

That looks correct. An extra roll for the Commisar and 1 for the Tank adds up to 21

JohnnyCat

@beelee I still lost two planes!

But I have no idea now what was to be expected. I guess the normal TripleA battle computer does not work or would it? I did not even check, I just rolled the battle and saw that there were 21 defense rolls.

JohnnyCat

@beelee So did we find out why the Tank General disappeared ?

beelee

@johnnycat

Yea the battle calc isn't a 100 %

Something got corrupted in your G3 save. I couldn't find where it happened.

You said you did a save from History ? maybe ? If so that coulda been the culprit as History saves are kinda scketch/delicate.

You can also go to auto save and restart a game from there. There will be a lot to sort through but ... yea Idk maybe I misunderstood what happened.

At any rate, I couldn't find any reason why it went wrong.

JohnnyCat

@beelee OK I bet that history save was the culprit.

This game is the most amazing game yet!!!

beelee

@johnnycat

yea so in case you didn't know, always save at start of turn, for the History save. Also it might double produce income. I only use it as a test but auto save better way to go .

You should git hub some of your skills and improve it

Trout

@johnnycat Someday I will finally learn that picking a fight with J when their whole air force can join in it never works. But that day is not this game