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      Vendetta @KurtGodel7
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      @KurtGodel7 Do you have the full tech trees written up yet or are they still work in progress?

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        @KurtGodel7 Do you have the full tech trees written up yet or are they still work in progress?

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              @KurtGodel7 Maybe having an option like in Classic (but historical) that the game can be started with techs already got? Meaning that, if that option is enabled, United States start with the B-17 tech already in the bag, and other players also have tech too if those tech were already got or mostly developed by the time the game starts?

              (Even though the B-17 did very little in Pacific, it feels a bit wrong that is not going to be there as part of the Pacific forces, though I guess USA Atlantic can send B-17 in Pacific if wanted.)

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                Apparently I've uploaded too many files at one time and should try again later. But the above is a lot of the techs.

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                  @KurtGodel7 Sorry to repeat, but the B-17 was way more protected and protective than the Avro Lancaster. It was way harder to down a B-17 than an Avro Lancaster. I suggest it having +2 hit-points. (Also, the B-17 was some more of a fortress than the B-24, but the difference here is much less than with the much weaker Avro Lancaster.)

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                    Vendetta
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                    @KurtGodel7 said:

                    Apparently I've uploaded too many files at one time and should try again later. But the above is a lot of the techs.

                    Cool.

                    Rail Guns should definitely be Railway guns - they’re two rather different things 😉

                    Mobile warfare and armored warfare make those two sound a little better

                    If you want some flavor on the Italian/Japanese tank unlock tech, use Carro Armato for Italy and Sensha for Japan (just means tank but in the local language).

                    Pershing tank could be M26 Pershing and Britain could use their A numbers (A22 Churchill, A34 Comet, A41 Centurion) if you want them to look a little more polished. KV-1 is a better fit than KV-2, lot more of the -1 were built.

                    Merchant Marine -> Propulsion Advancements (merchant marine sounds like transport tech)
                    Fleet Action -> Advanced Fire Control
                    Improved Sub -> Improved Submarines
                    Shipyards -> Shipyard Improvements
                    Dockyards -> Dockyard Expansion
                    Undersea War -> Undersea Warfare

                    Kate -> B5N Kate
                    Jill -> B6N Jill
                    Emily -> H8K Emily

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                          Recent changes:

                          Created the "colonial militia" unit. This is for Britain only, and is basically a conscript by another name. Britain cannot build this unit. But by researching tech it receives this unit for free for India. Three per turn with the Raj tech. Once Britain researches Expand India Army (or whatever I decided to call that tech) it gets six of these a turn for free, on India.

                          @vendetta suggested better names for some of the techs. Rail guns tech is now railway guns. (Good call on that, btw.) Other tech names have changed as well, reflective Vendetta's suggestions.

                          @cernel suggested the idea of starting the game with certain techs already researched, much like Classic would do depending on the option you chose. I have this on my list of needed changes.

                          @schulz suggested changes to the map itself, and provided example maps to use. I devoted precious weekly usage to this task. (Even though I was already at 40% of weekly usage just 24 hours into my week.) I have had AI alter the Europe/Mediterranean/West Russia part of my map using the example Schulz provided.

                          Earlier in this thread someone mentioned an incorrect border in Europe, which I think is now fixed. But there is also the problem of territory labels: West Prussia, Posen, etc. The problem I'm running into is that I want a territory to have the name Danzig, given the importance of Danzig to the start of the war. Labeling a territory Danzig maybe displaces where you might want the West Prussia label, so then the latter finds its way into the second-best location.

                          @cernel wants the differences between the Lancaster, Flying Fortress, and Liberator to be accurately reflected in the stats for those three bomber types. Claude believes this is already achieved by current unit stats. I will have to double check Claude on this. America Pacific gets the Liberator, America Atlantic gets the Flying Fortress, and Britain of course gets the Lancaster.

                          Light tanks were too easily confused with tanks, so I've used scout car logo art for light tanks. I hate doing that, but if I'm confused by a light tank icon versus a normal tank icon, other people will be confused too.

                          The reason why I consumed so much weekly usage so quickly was in large part to fix GUI problems associated with changes to the air system. Those GUI problems appear to be solved.

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                            Vendetta @KurtGodel7
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                            Hilfswilliger was the name for the local auxiliaries that Germany recruited in Russia, would be a good fit for "Crush communism."

                            Panzerschreck for Advanced Panzerfaust?

                            Sturmgewehr for assault rifle

                            The B-52 is way too far ahead of the timeline, didn't enter service until the 1950s. Use the B-45 Tornado, that was America's earliest jet bomber.

                            Go 229 is the flying wing model.

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                              What Claude had to say about territory names:


                              Renaming Pomerania to West Prussia: I’d advise against it. Your map’s Pomerania sits on the coast just northeast of Berlin and west of Danzig. That’s the Stettin–Köslin area, which really was the Prussian province of Pomerania. West Prussia was the Vistula region around Danzig, Thorn and Bromberg, south of Danzig and west of Warsaw. That’s exactly where your West Prussia territory already is. Only one of your names is debatable: the coastal strip between Danzig and Koenigsberg (Elbing, Marienburg) was West Prussian before 1920 and became part of East Prussia from 1920. For a 1941 map, “East Prussia” is right.


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                                Note that Britain's list is now replaced with some new techs. "Raj" gives one colonial militia for each of India's three most valuable territories. Increased Indian Army means those territories now produce 2 colonial militia each turn.

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                                Marines (America Pacific) can be built from the start. America Atlantic cannot research Superfortress or B-52.

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                                That's it for the tech list for now. Expect this list to become out-of-date soon after being posted, however.

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