Fuel Enhancements
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Alright so latest changes to add resource and territory effect icon support on bottom bar and purchase panel are submitted: https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/pull/3118
Iron War before:
Iron War after:
Iron War (always have icon then quantity):
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Posted a third screenshot as it was pointed out its probably better to be consistent with always having resource icon then quantity. Any thoughts?
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@redrum Definitely better. Looks great.
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I posted a reply in the other thread
Hope you find it.
( https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/583/image-icons/111 ) -
So the first take at looking at unit movement fuel consumption:
This is very similar to what @Frostion originally posted (https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/issues/1310) except now that we have total resources displayed in the bottom bar, the red number instead shows how much fuel the given move is consuming as that should be more useful.
So given that you can potentially have multiple resources for fuel cost, the next step is to try to add resource images and multiple numbers. So that instead of just "(2)" you could have say "2<supply_image> 4<industry_image>".
Thoughts and feedback welcome.
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@redrum Great initiative!
One of the things I have noticed (especially given the example you used) is that while moving on maps with smaller territory sizes there is often a tendency to not be able to see or distinguish the information being presented due to the clutter of everything in the destination terr.
Example...
Now... and this has been mentioned before by members of our community.... is there the possibility to create a "canvass" onto which this information can be rendered?
Example...
"A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
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@hepps @redrum
Having control over colors of numbers might be helpful. A map maker could chose colors that pop and or don't blend with backgrounds as much.As fuel number goes, the brackets seems like they not needed. Maybe just use the / to divide or a -. Although I understand the brackets imply minus too. The fuel image is weird too. Again different colors may work well instead of images . Just game notes would need to specify what colors are if changed from default or if multiple fuel resources are used.
Or a letter in place of image. eg 2/4/F1/F2 or 2/4-f1-f2 or 2/4/-f1/-f2
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@general_zod Consistency from game to game is probably very desirable for the main components of gameplay.
If you start allowing map makers to start changing the colours of things like movement used, movement outstanding, fuel cost, unit quantities etc... it would probably lead to a great deal of issues for players trying to learn/play different maps if each individual map had its own hard coded presets.
Potentially adding this type of customization would be best executed by adding the other display categories to the "View Tab" in a game under the "Edit map Font and Color" window.
That way once a player set all the parameters it would be consistent game over game. The map maker could then make recommendations in the game notes specifying what he feels is the best settings based on the map design, while still allowing the player to decide what is preferable based on individual taste.
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@hepps Yeah, that works too. As long as can choose colors for each number.
Btw, I do like your canvas idea, a semi transparent might be nice. But in addition to above.
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@redrum Not sure semi transparency is the way to go... just seems to add more muddiness. Since this would only during the movement itself I would recommend a solid background.
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@hepps Yeah. From the samples I took, I would agree that solid looks the best.
Thoughts on colors, size, etc for either the "canvas" or movement/fuel numbers?
Other Suggestions:
- Probably better to always display the max movement number (the blue one). It seems that if you move further than your max then it disappears.
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@redrum Yah, when you move beyond the units max range the blue number disappears and is replaced by am "X" icon which appears to have a fixed placement relative to the cursor location (down X pixels and right by x pixels) rather than relative to the location of the move number (yellow number) which continues to be displayed and who's placement is relative to the horizontal plain from where the unit originated (if you are moving above the original location of the unit the number is displayed above the transparent unit.... if you are moving below the original location of the unit the number is displayed below the transparent unit). Ideally that red X icon would be placed in lieu of the blue number... relative to the yellow number... rather than relative to the cursor location on the screen.
As far as colours.... I am indifferent. I have no issue with the current colour scheme.
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@frostion Who is this "gery" you speak of?
"A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
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Yeah the solid canvas looks cool too. Also nicer with less stuff going on the canvas.
So a thought on the fuel figures. So if you stuck on 1/2(#) format. (which is ok, except need space after the 2, imo) Maybe for more consistency and enhanced clarity. Add the minus - sign (and space). eg 1/2 (-#). To be consistent since we the use a (+#) sign in resource info bar.
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@general_zod Agree. If we are going to put a plus sign to indicate increases.... we should do the same for consumption and add a minus sign.
Good call.
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@hepps
Gery is an form of evil grey plankton:
I thought you were inspired by this plankton when you made the GREY background -
The following are some examples. Any thoughts?
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@redrum Thoughts? Yes I have many...
If the strength of an ant could be scaled to a human sized genetically enhanced breed of mule-octopus hybrid.... that feeds on carbon dioxide for energy.... we could solve a lot of the worlds problems.
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