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    • HeppsH Offline
      Hepps Moderators
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      Just doodling around.

      Here are some ideas to give the map a little more LOTR feel.

      0_1528473109213_Doodles.png

      "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
      Hepster

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      • redrumR Offline
        redrum Admin @Hepps
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        @hepps One thing that is sorely missing is player flags. Looks like you might have added something for Dwarves already. If you open up the history panel you'll immediately see the problem.

        TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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        • HeppsH Offline
          Hepps Moderators @redrum
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          @redrum 100% I mentioned the very same thing earlier in the thread.

          I just quickly insert a rough image for display purposes.

          "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
          Hepster

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          • alkexrA Offline
            alkexr @redrum
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            @redrum I've already added "flags" - monochromatic squares of the player color. That should help with telling whose turn it is. In fact, this sort of flag is better suited for this purpose than 17 elaborate flags that you'd have to memorize. Also most factions have no flag/symbol mentioned in canon, with the notable exceptions of Gondor, Mordor, Isengard and Harad (that pop to my mind), so you'd have to be creative, possibly leaving players confused.

            But it's all up to @Hepps 🙂 I think at this point it's safe to say that Hepps is more or less in charge of the visual style.
            One point though, there are two sea zones (Nenuial, next to the capital of Arnor and Gulf of Umbar, down next to Harad) that Frostion apparently mistook for land territories, and now they have a blue border. Will you be able to fix those when you get there?

            Btw you can keep track of changes here: https://github.com/triplea-maps/large_middle_earth/commits/version-1.3

            "For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air."

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            • HeppsH Offline
              Hepps Moderators @alkexr
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              @alkexr I can take care of those. NP.

              "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
              Hepster

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              • HeppsH Offline
                Hepps Moderators
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                Something I have noticed when trying to change image in the JPEG format.

                Why does it save a file as a JPG when editting with Paint.net... and how is that different from a JPEG file. Furthermore, how are they different and how do I convert one from the other?

                Very confusing.

                "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                Hepster

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                • redrumR Offline
                  redrum Admin @Hepps
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                  @hepps Here ya go: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=jpeg+vs+jpg

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                  • HeppsH Offline
                    Hepps Moderators @redrum
                    last edited by

                    @redrum Ok. But why does a map break when you replace one with the other?

                    And how do I change the format name?

                    "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                    Hepster

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                      redrum Admin @Hepps
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                      @hepps Lol. Didn't enjoy my video?

                      In theory, for maps it shouldn't matter and I believe we should support .png, .jpg, and .jpeg for images. I'd have to look at the code to see if its only accepting certain image types.

                      For .jpg and .jpeg, you should be able to just rename the extension back and forth and it shouldn't have any negative impact. Assuming you are on windows, you just have to enable the property to show the file extensions then you can change them as you please: http://www.thewindowsclub.com/show-file-extensions-in-windows

                      PS. It appears the only place that specifies only ".jpeg" and not ".jpg" is "smallMap.jpeg".

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                      • HeppsH Offline
                        Hepps Moderators @redrum
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                        @redrum Yes that is the only place it breaks maps.

                        But for the life of me I can't seem to change the file extension.

                        "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                        Hepster

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                        • redrumR Offline
                          redrum Admin @Hepps
                          last edited by redrum

                          @hepps Lol. Did you go to the link I posted? If not if you uploaded it here, I'll rename and then upload it back up 🙂 Sometimes its just too much work to teach a man to fish...

                          PS. That should probably be a bug report and allow .jpg for smallMap images.

                          TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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                            Hepps Moderators @redrum
                            last edited by Hepps

                            @redrum That's why I eat beef.

                            "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                            Hepster

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                              redrum Admin @Hepps
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                              @hepps Teach a man to slaughter cattle then...

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                              • HeppsH Offline
                                Hepps Moderators @redrum
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                                @redrum Even when I open the file in Paint and choose JPEG... it still reverts the image back to a JPG.

                                God this is frustrating.

                                "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                Hepster

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                                • HeppsH Offline
                                  Hepps Moderators
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                                  0_1528485753682_smallMap.jpg

                                  This is the image.

                                  After some reading it appears JPEG is an old file extension. Why is the smallMap still using this exclusively?

                                  "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                  Hepster

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                                  • HeppsH Offline
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                                    I fugured it out. You can convert a JPG into a JPEG by saving over the original JPEG image.

                                    But it was all for not since the intended outcome was far less than desirable.

                                    Here is what I was hoping to do....

                                    0_1528487231372_Desired effect.png

                                    Here is what happens when you place an image with details in the smallMap....

                                    0_1528487286716_Not the desired effect.png

                                    Since the fill colour for territory owner ship has zero opacity... it simply over writes the image. Thereby making it impossible to dress up the small map.

                                    "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                    Hepster

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                                      redrum Admin @Hepps
                                      last edited by redrum

                                      @hepps Sounds like someone wants a new feature request...

                                      I don't think there is any reasoning behind only supporting .jpeg and not .jpg for smallMap. Should put a bug report in for that and it should be easy to fix.

                                      TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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                                      • HeppsH Offline
                                        Hepps Moderators @redrum
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                                        @redrum said in Large Middle Earth queries:

                                        @hepps Sounds like someone wants a new feature request...

                                        I was just trying to explain what I was doing. I don't really thing the mini map is much of a priority. I was just testing whether or not I could dress it up.

                                        I don't think there is any reasoning behind only supporting .jpeg and not .jpg for smallMap. Should put a bug report in for that and it should be easy to fix.

                                        Sounds good. I think its warranted since it happens often.

                                        "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                        Hepster

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                                        • C Offline
                                          Cernel Moderators @redrum
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                                          @redrum Personally, I don't like the idea of supporting redundant extensions. I'd advice, when stuff is redundant, choosing and supporting only one, either JPG or JPEG only.
                                          Of course, the best solution would be supporting only PNG and changing all minimap in the repository to PNG, but I guess not feasibly worthwhile.
                                          I see that the problem is that some utilities oblige you to save in "jpg", not "jpeg". GIMP allows either.

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                                          • HeppsH Offline
                                            Hepps Moderators @Cernel
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                                            @cernel I can open either with the software to maipulate the image. Problem is saving them.

                                            "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                            Hepster

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