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    • prastle
      prastle Moderators Admin @redrum last edited by

      @redrum he is on An i don't care about "checkers maps" rant 🙂

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      • prastle
        prastle Moderators Admin @prastle last edited by

        @redrum To clarify maybe slightly smaller round and semi transparent might work quoting gen zod

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          Cernel Moderators @prastle last edited by

          I see. I don't know how to feel about it; would need to play some games to tell.
          The upside is that the new version looks more refined than the old one, and a default coloured number may not be that good for all maps, but I can see this thing really going in the way of what you are looking at.
          It may be better for that thing with the movement display to always stay on the arrow trail, instead of jumping up and down on the same abscissa; something like this:

          <--(X/Y)------------------

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          • Frostion
            Frostion Admin last edited by Frostion

            Just opened the pre-release, looked at the movement info a bit, clicked a few times left/right mouse button .... And got windows blue screen of death.

            I still think the info should start with a 20x20 movement icon, and the orange/red combo is not good as they look nearly alike.

            Here are some proposals:
            0_1520045631265_1.jpg
            0_1520045637338_2.jpg
            0_1520045642101_3.jpg
            2_1520045649640_Black1.png 1_1520045649640_Green.png 0_1520045649639_Black2.png

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            • prastle
              prastle Moderators Admin @Frostion last edited by

              @frostion off topic but please throw your five votes here

              https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/535/triplea-mod-council-vote-discussion

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              • C
                Cernel Moderators @Frostion last edited by

                @frostion Well, a movement icon would make the thing even more refined, but at the price of exacerbating even more the issue of covering and hiding the board underneath, while adding nothing substantial, unless you have different symbols for accessible and inaccessible and, that way, it could at least substitute (thus allow removing) the current "cannot go there" symbol that displays only if the territory is unreachable.
                I'm still thinking the solution would be assuring that thing being behind the unit, with respect to the direction you are moving to, which means either:
                1- on the arrow trail, or
                2- in between of the starting point (where you picked the unit) and the current position of the cursor, or
                3- on the right of the unit if you are moving mostly to the left, on the left of the unit if you are moving mostly to the right, above the unit if you are moving mostly downwards, below the unit if you are moving mostly upwards.
                I guess number 3 should be the easiest to implement, as it is related to the current behaviour.

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                  Cernel Moderators @Cernel last edited by

                  I'll add an image, just because:

                  current:
                  0_1520061560778_current.png

                  my suggestion:
                  0_1520061572192_proposed.png

                  Instead, if you are going down, it would be above the arrow point, etc..

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                    Cernel Moderators @Cernel last edited by

                    I want to add that I clearly remember that about 5 years ago, when Veqryn added the movement display, I was initially a bit unhappy about having that additional hovering number buzzing around, and didn't like this addition, but now I think I appreciate the ability of cursoring around and getting told how much distance from the starting point I am, so I would not suggest totally removing it. Still, a menu option for going back to the times we didn't have this feature may be useful; not sure if I would tick it. Maybe a key for quick switching this setting, as well.

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                    • General_Zod
                      General_Zod Moderators last edited by General_Zod

                      So was playing 9464 today, and observations were.

                      1. The gray canvas and oblong shape seems to block a lot on designation. I keep thinking semi transparent should work, maybe if it was like 75% transparent?

                      2. The oblong is very oversized when only one number is shown. Any chance the shape can be reduced when single number shown.

                      3. Yellow was a nicer color for first number. Maybe adjust canvas color to accommodate yellow again.

                      4. Cernels idea above is interesting, place the shape on path instead of at end.

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                      • redrum
                        redrum Admin last edited by

                        So decided to tweak the message size/color a bit. I've made both move numbers the same blue color, removed parens, and tightened up the padding:
                        0_1520394788768_a4e68667-51c7-46da-983e-a5d4f56fb01c-image.png

                        Not Enough Moves
                        0_1520394829080_48d5a9a8-30c9-4c97-8baa-a15cffed6e67-image.png

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                        • Hepps
                          Hepps Moderators @redrum last edited by

                          @redrum Looks good.

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                          • Frostion
                            Frostion Admin last edited by

                            Yes. This is great 😁

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                            • General_Zod
                              General_Zod Moderators last edited by

                              @redrum
                              Much better. Nice job. 🙂

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                              • prastle
                                prastle Moderators Admin @redrum last edited by

                                @redrum thumbs up!

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                                • C
                                  Cernel Moderators @redrum last edited by

                                  @redrum As I said, I personally would show only the movement, not the max movement available (so "1", instead of "1/1"), because, when I play a map, I've at least memorised the movement abilities of its units, so I surely don't have any use for that, but just my personal preference. Ask around. If you want to keep the max movement, maybe having it smaller, like it used to be. I think the suggestion of having a menu option for switching off this feature is anyway good, even if the feature itself is improved (in my opinion, almost all add-ons should be optable out).

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                                    Cernel Moderators @redrum last edited by

                                    @redrum Also, I'm not sure what the "+" after the "1/1" is for.

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                                    • prastle
                                      prastle Moderators Admin @Cernel last edited by

                                      @cernel it shows the resources

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                                        Cernel Moderators @prastle last edited by

                                        @prastle Yes, I got that after the "+" those are the fuel costs, but I don't see why having the + itself. I guess the "+" is there for saying "plus the following resources fuel costs:", but I'm not sure. Anyways, in this case, I think it can be removed (it kind of looks saying that the unit has "1+" max movement).

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                                        • prastle
                                          prastle Moderators Admin @Cernel last edited by prastle

                                          @cernel correct
                                          _+ this is used

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                                          • redrum
                                            redrum Admin last edited by

                                            @Cernel The "+" is actually used to indicate that some of the selected units can move further. So for instance if you select an infantry and a tank to move then hover over an adjacent territory it'll show 1/1+ as the infantry can only move 1 but some of the other units (tank in this case) have additional movement. This is how its always been to my knowledge. I think it is helpful especially for new players and complex maps.

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