Image Icons
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Yea, I hope we are able to create a full set of the standard Icons in good quality? Is it @Hepps who is the keeper if the original artwork?
@redrum We see in you example pictures how it looks when a unit cost 4 different resources. I would think going larger that 16 might be too much as the whole row of unit/cost display is expanded in hight. But no harm in trying
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@redrum Still need those resized images?
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@hepps Yes, please. I think at least posting a few screenshots with 16x16 and 20x20 is probably worth the time. I'm fairly sure we have consensus that 12x12 icons are useless.
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@redrum So then what are we thinking 16 x 16, 20 x 20 and 48 x 48?
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@hepps I'm just focusing on the small resource icon at the moment but here are my thoughts:
- Small - either 16x16, 20x20, 24x24 - used for areas with text like purchase costs
- Medium - either 24x24, 28x28, 32x32 - used for bottom bar, other main UI areas
- Large - 48x48? I think that is the most used unit image size? - used when displaying them as a 'unit'
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@redrum Yah that looks ideal. Allows for some individual customization.
I'll work on those for you now that I am home.
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@hepps Right, though I'd like to pick the 'best' and make that what we include in the engine for each size as well as our 'recommendation' to map makers.
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@redrum I just moved a few things around and included the resources as a 32 x 32 size image, increased the font for the quantity to 16 and made it bold.
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Alright so here are some options with other image sizes. My initial thoughts is I prefer 16/20 over the 24 as they seem identifiable but don't take up as much space. No real preference on not bold vs bold as I think bold looks better but then it makes me starting wondering what else should be bold
16x16
20x20
16x16 with Bold Quantity
20x20 with Bold Quantity
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@Hepps - Hmmm … I don’t think I like the bold resource numbers. And I think it’s a little “off” having the units and the resource cost pictures almost the same size. its all just a bit too much.
Anyway @redrum here is a collection of Dragon War pictures that you can play around with. Also there is an XML of Dragon War where the players start out with a random bunch of resources, making them able to purchase from round 1. I contains unit size, 32, 24 and 16.
Mind you that these pictures, unlike the standard TripleA resource pictures, have a yellow backdrop and more transparent space around them. That also goes for the smaller pictures. I have not made a “clean” version. I might do that. You so you know that a Dragon war 16x16 might not give the same impression as a standard TripleA picture 16x16.
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@redrum I like the 20x20, I just wish we could see the same preview with 1 size larger font instead of bold font.
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@frostion Ask and thou shall receive:
20x20 with larger font quantity
24x24 with larger font quantity
Dragon War @ 24x24 with larger font quantity
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Nice. I like the “20x20 with larger font quantity” For me at least it seems to represent a good balanced display.
Here are Dragon War 20x20 icon.
I will try to make some Iron War icons and post them for you to test. I will include some 20x20 also.
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@frostion Yeah, only thing that worries me is font size inconsistency and whether that opens up a can of worms. But to be fair good UI design often uses different size fonts/images to highlight different areas. My initial guy reaction is either 16x16 with normal size font or 20x20 with larger font.
DW Pre-Icons (Death By Text!)
DW 20x20 larger font quantity
DW 16x16 larger font quantity
DW 16x16
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The 16x16 with normal font also looks good, but the icons are on the verge of being unrecognizable.
Taking the civil war version in mind, I am still for “20x20 larger font quantity”.
I am eager to know what other people think.
Did the first work for Iron War icon set, but you will have to wait about 22 hours till I finish them
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So for now going with the 20x20 and larger font, I adjusted some spacing and now enforce resource ordering based on the XML to get the following:
Dragon War
Civil War
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@redrum I think you found the sweet spot. All looks great!
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Alright, I think we'll go with the 20x20 with larger font for the purchase window. Next up is resource bar!
20x20
24x24
28x28
32x32
TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback
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@redrum Would probably be best to show the examples with the entire window... maybe with the purchase window open at the same time. Since a comparison is an important part of the concept.
We have to bear in mind that the quality of the resource image is also a factor. I did the larger images quickly by expanding the existing images... which yields blurry results without a great deal more work. So it is important to evaluate the sizes based on how they work comparatively rather than on the quality of the icons themselves.
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@redrum sexy
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