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    • redrumR Offline
      redrum Admin @Hepps
      last edited by

      @hepps I'm just focusing on the small resource icon at the moment but here are my thoughts:

      • Small - either 16x16, 20x20, 24x24 - used for areas with text like purchase costs
      • Medium - either 24x24, 28x28, 32x32 - used for bottom bar, other main UI areas
      • Large - 48x48? I think that is the most used unit image size? - used when displaying them as a 'unit'

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      • HeppsH Offline
        Hepps Moderators @redrum
        last edited by Hepps

        @redrum Yah that looks ideal. Allows for some individual customization.

        I'll work on those for you now that I am home.

        "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
        Hepster

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        • redrumR Offline
          redrum Admin @Hepps
          last edited by

          @hepps Right, though I'd like to pick the 'best' and make that what we include in the engine for each size as well as our 'recommendation' to map makers.

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          • HeppsH Offline
            Hepps Moderators @redrum
            last edited by

            @redrum I just moved a few things around and included the resources as a 32 x 32 size image, increased the font for the quantity to 16 and made it bold.

            0_1519158112873_Snap.png

            "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
            Hepster

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            • redrumR Offline
              redrum Admin
              last edited by redrum

              Alright so here are some options with other image sizes. My initial thoughts is I prefer 16/20 over the 24 as they seem identifiable but don't take up as much space. No real preference on not bold vs bold as I think bold looks better but then it makes me starting wondering what else should be bold 🙂

              16x16
              0_1519160311515_42dd8caf-e372-4d3a-b150-599d877496a8-image.png

              20x20
              0_1519160389848_066402ed-dbf9-44b7-86f4-278a90c96ea7-image.png

              16x16 with Bold Quantity
              0_1519161034991_fd060da1-9d95-43a6-9e7d-2518fcab6feb-image.png

              20x20 with Bold Quantity
              0_1519160964858_f92b7860-0a85-4961-addc-cdb98c6b532a-image.png

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              • FrostionF Offline
                Frostion Admin
                last edited by

                @Hepps - Hmmm … I don’t think I like the bold resource numbers. And I think it’s a little “off” having the units and the resource cost pictures almost the same size. its all just a bit too much.

                Anyway @redrum here is a collection of Dragon War pictures that you can play around with. Also there is an XML of Dragon War where the players start out with a random bunch of resources, making them able to purchase from round 1. I contains unit size, 32, 24 and 16.

                Mind you that these pictures, unlike the standard TripleA resource pictures, have a yellow backdrop and more transparent space around them. That also goes for the smaller pictures. I have not made a “clean” version. I might do that. You so you know that a Dragon war 16x16 might not give the same impression as a standard TripleA picture 16x16.

                0_1519161178942_DragonWarResources.zip

                Map maker of: Star Wars: Galactic War + Star Wars: Tatooine War + Caribbean Trade War + Dragon War + Age of Tribes + Star Trek: Dilithium War + Iron War + Iron War: Europe + Warcraft: War Heroes

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                • FrostionF Offline
                  Frostion Admin
                  last edited by

                  @redrum I like the 20x20, I just wish we could see the same preview with 1 size larger font instead of bold font. 😉

                  Map maker of: Star Wars: Galactic War + Star Wars: Tatooine War + Caribbean Trade War + Dragon War + Age of Tribes + Star Trek: Dilithium War + Iron War + Iron War: Europe + Warcraft: War Heroes

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                  • redrumR Offline
                    redrum Admin @Frostion
                    last edited by redrum

                    @frostion Ask and thou shall receive:

                    20x20 with larger font quantity
                    0_1519162057875_99e52ad5-d99b-4734-b0fa-290af6f5800c-image.png

                    24x24 with larger font quantity
                    0_1519162217867_5690cc02-d91f-4730-a8e3-1a3622e4d700-image.png

                    Dragon War @ 24x24 with larger font quantity
                    0_1519163117132_24ecc51b-63f9-43ac-8cf2-2fa7ffbdadf1-image.png

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                    • FrostionF Offline
                      Frostion Admin
                      last edited by Frostion

                      Nice. I like the “20x20 with larger font quantity” For me at least it seems to represent a good balanced display.

                      Here are Dragon War 20x20 icon.

                      I will try to make some Iron War icons and post them for you to test. I will include some 20x20 also.

                      0_1519162984264_DragonWar20x20.zip

                      Map maker of: Star Wars: Galactic War + Star Wars: Tatooine War + Caribbean Trade War + Dragon War + Age of Tribes + Star Trek: Dilithium War + Iron War + Iron War: Europe + Warcraft: War Heroes

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                      • redrumR Offline
                        redrum Admin @Frostion
                        last edited by redrum

                        @frostion Yeah, only thing that worries me is font size inconsistency and whether that opens up a can of worms. But to be fair good UI design often uses different size fonts/images to highlight different areas. My initial guy reaction is either 16x16 with normal size font or 20x20 with larger font.

                        DW Pre-Icons (Death By Text!)
                        0_1519163251013_25a919d6-21a7-4ac8-a283-4e2d0583cdfd-image.png

                        DW 20x20 larger font quantity
                        0_1519163392425_57bb0419-388e-4288-a423-74b327c3ab3e-image.png

                        DW 16x16 larger font quantity
                        0_1519163454720_c96e9de3-3e5c-4153-9026-aa6e5f23fb18-image.png

                        DW 16x16
                        0_1519163499394_69d9d99e-762d-4b4f-93ad-1ed860bb2fe6-image.png

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                        • FrostionF Offline
                          Frostion Admin
                          last edited by

                          The 16x16 with normal font also looks good, but the icons are on the verge of being unrecognizable.

                          Taking the civil war version in mind, I am still for “20x20 larger font quantity”.

                          I am eager to know what other people think.

                          Did the first work for Iron War icon set, but you will have to wait about 22 hours till I finish them 😜 Good night!

                          Map maker of: Star Wars: Galactic War + Star Wars: Tatooine War + Caribbean Trade War + Dragon War + Age of Tribes + Star Trek: Dilithium War + Iron War + Iron War: Europe + Warcraft: War Heroes

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                          • redrumR Offline
                            redrum Admin
                            last edited by redrum

                            So for now going with the 20x20 and larger font, I adjusted some spacing and now enforce resource ordering based on the XML to get the following:

                            Dragon War
                            0_1519172099101_d30ef3d2-c3c1-4d5e-9971-5be5ed709799-image.png

                            Civil War
                            0_1519171891791_068bc02e-1609-41fd-8e00-446c40a90acc-image.png

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                            • HeppsH Offline
                              Hepps Moderators @redrum
                              last edited by

                              @redrum I think you found the sweet spot. All looks great!

                              "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                              Hepster

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                              • redrumR Offline
                                redrum Admin
                                last edited by

                                Alright, I think we'll go with the 20x20 with larger font for the purchase window. Next up is resource bar!

                                20x20
                                0_1519183959421_9708ad4a-8eaf-4295-af34-3f737e5b2229-image.png

                                24x24
                                0_1519184083162_78e37eb7-6eb2-47ce-8fb3-3d5ccf0f4e90-image.png

                                28x28
                                0_1519183992458_472c7133-fbdc-48d1-b5c9-9842c1bd668d-image.png

                                32x32
                                0_1519184035877_1aa102a8-fa1c-41c9-a736-3657571b16c1-image.png

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                                • HeppsH Offline
                                  Hepps Moderators @redrum
                                  last edited by

                                  @redrum Would probably be best to show the examples with the entire window... maybe with the purchase window open at the same time. Since a comparison is an important part of the concept.

                                  We have to bear in mind that the quality of the resource image is also a factor. I did the larger images quickly by expanding the existing images... which yields blurry results without a great deal more work. So it is important to evaluate the sizes based on how they work comparatively rather than on the quality of the icons themselves.

                                  "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                  Hepster

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                                  • prastleP Offline
                                    prastle Moderators Admin @redrum
                                    last edited by

                                    @redrum sexy 🙂

                                    If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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                                    • redrumR Offline
                                      redrum Admin
                                      last edited by redrum

                                      @Hepps Good point. Here are screenshots with purchase window open. After we narrow it down I can try some different font sizes as well. I also need to fix the right part of the bottom bar so its height scales with the rest.

                                      20x20
                                      0_1519184643013_36dd0b1c-7c7b-4610-84bd-0973bbab3fe9-image.png

                                      24x24
                                      0_1519184693964_b747aea4-d221-4cc6-b4f5-567f2d3fff54-image.png

                                      28x28
                                      0_1519184600332_0a6f07d7-0f44-4eae-8408-95c75ac8dcc6-image.png

                                      32x32
                                      0_1519184551066_fa0df392-c7d9-4b2a-be62-0306e6c3bce7-image.png

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                                      • HeppsH Offline
                                        Hepps Moderators @redrum
                                        last edited by

                                        @redrum 24 does it for me.

                                        "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                        Hepster

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                                        • redrumR Offline
                                          redrum Admin
                                          last edited by

                                          Here is 20x20 with larger font (same as purchase window):
                                          0_1519185812237_71d3f6f3-6ae3-450f-a638-2a528f6e1d1d-image.png

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                                          • prastleP Offline
                                            prastle Moderators Admin @Hepps
                                            last edited by

                                            @hepps WHAT about the old blind guys?
                                            🙂
                                            24 is fine
                                            bigger is better
                                            😉

                                            If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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