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    • CrazyGC Offline
      CrazyG Lobby Moderators
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      If I remember correctly, this was added as an idea to help fix the stacking problem in free for all games. The goal was if you were at peace with someone, you had to pay upkeep. That way peace had a cost, the same way that losing units had a cost for the players who were fighting.

      I don't think it works at in practice. And you could also do the same thing with triggers.

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      • redrumR Offline
        redrum Admin @CrazyG
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        @crazyg Yeah, that appears to be the case. The only place I saw it added to at one point was Napoleonic Empires FFA but looks like it was removed.

        TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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        • HeppsH Offline
          Hepps Lobby Moderators @redrum
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          @redrum Isn't it in ZOD's badass FFA?

          "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
          Hepster

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          • General_ZodG Offline
            General_Zod Lobby Moderators @redrum
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            @redrum Yes I use this in my Bad-Ass 4-Nation FFA. I use two forms of costs, one upkeep for both nations if accepted (and each turn as long as active) and a one time charge for the nation initiating the diplomatic overture.

            @prastle I use a different upkeep for the dragons charging the nations food to feed the dragons.

            @frostion I do have a mod for your Dragon War, just never quite completed it. Actually forgot about it for several months. Eventually I was gonna fill you in on it. ๐Ÿ™‚

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            • prastleP Offline
              prastle Lobby Moderators Admin @General_Zod
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              @general_zod kk gz it was just a cool idea for dragon wars! I still like my eggs idea as well ๐Ÿ™‚

              If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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              • FrostionF Offline
                Frostion Admin
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                Interesting about the food upkeep cost for Dragons. Good idea. I wonder why I didn't implement it. ๐Ÿ˜Š Would be nice to see the "mod" one day.

                Map maker of: Star Wars: Galactic War + Star Wars: Tatooine War + Caribbean Trade War + Dragon War + Age of Tribes + Star Trek: Dilithium War + Iron War + Iron War: Europe + Warcraft: War Heroes

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                • General_ZodG Offline
                  General_Zod Lobby Moderators @Frostion
                  last edited by General_Zod

                  @frostion Yeah we can compare notes on it. @Prastle and I played DW for a while last year so we can both help ya on improvements.

                  My mod may have went a bit too far. I converted it to d20 as an experiment to try and get a d&d feel going. But that's were I left it. I never actually tested since.

                  Also I was leaning toward a 3 way FFA with alliances.

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                  • General_ZodG Offline
                    General_Zod Lobby Moderators @Frostion
                    last edited by General_Zod

                    @frostion The food upkeep for dragons causes nations to decide, dragons and a small standing army or none and a large standing army.

                    Because I made dragons very hungry :()

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                    • FrostionF Offline
                      Frostion Admin
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                      @General_Zod If you post the XML there is an "Official" Dragon War thread here at the new forum. I don't know about breaking up the alliances and converting to d20 though. But who knows ๐Ÿ˜‰

                      Map maker of: Star Wars: Galactic War + Star Wars: Tatooine War + Caribbean Trade War + Dragon War + Age of Tribes + Star Trek: Dilithium War + Iron War + Iron War: Europe + Warcraft: War Heroes

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                      • HeppsH Offline
                        Hepps Lobby Moderators @General_Zod
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                        @general_zod wouldn't Dragons be eating you enemies units? ๐Ÿ˜‰

                        "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                        Hepster

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                        • General_ZodG Offline
                          General_Zod Lobby Moderators @Hepps
                          last edited by General_Zod

                          @hepps Sure were they can. But dragons are so powerful, I thought they needed a counter balance element.

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                          • General_ZodG Offline
                            General_Zod Lobby Moderators @Frostion
                            last edited by General_Zod

                            @frostion Yeah its really not the same game anymore. You don't even wanna know what else I did. lol

                            I might give you heart palpitations. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                              prastle Lobby Moderators Admin @General_Zod
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                              @general_zod don't tell him about the new gate ideas ๐Ÿ™‚

                              If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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                              • FrostionF Offline
                                Frostion Admin
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                                I am thinking in the lines of WoW and the great world changing โ€œCataclysmโ€! Arghh! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                                Map maker of: Star Wars: Galactic War + Star Wars: Tatooine War + Caribbean Trade War + Dragon War + Age of Tribes + Star Trek: Dilithium War + Iron War + Iron War: Europe + Warcraft: War Heroes

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                                • prastleP Offline
                                  prastle Lobby Moderators Admin @Frostion
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                                  @frostion we really enjoyed the map only 2 major issues we found were:

                                  • Dragons were way to predictable.

                                  • It was almost impossible for the east to help the west without a southwest passage for the elves to the inner sea? or a gate? Similar prob with the north.

                                  If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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                                    Hepps Lobby Moderators @prastle
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                                    @prastle Maybe this conversation is better suited for the map thread?

                                    "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                    Hepster

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                                      prastle Lobby Moderators Admin @Hepps
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                                      @hepps Np ill shush

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