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    • CrazyGC Offline
      CrazyG Moderators
      last edited by

      I found a file on my computer with all these missing connections. At some point, I think I updating with the wrong file and removed them.

      The problems all seem to be in the areas that we made changes to in the second wave of map creation.

      I'm fixing now, will update sometime today. The update will only have connection fixes

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      • HeppsH Offline
        Hepps Moderators @CrazyG
        last edited by

        @crazyg Funny you say that, because I remember already doing this exercise with you once before. 😃

        Glad you were able to find the file. Should make our lives easier.

        "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
        Hepster

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        • HeppsH Offline
          Hepps Moderators @CrazyG
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          @crazyg Also when you integrate the new file you may want to look at the connections in Sweden that surround Lakes Vanern & Vattern. there are several connections there that currently shouldn't exist.

          "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
          Hepster

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          • CrazyGC Offline
            CrazyG Moderators @Hepps
            last edited by

            @hepps
            Those were also fixed in the old file

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            • wc_sumptonW Offline
              wc_sumpton @CrazyG
              last edited by

              @crazyg
              Hope these will help you with the connection problems:
              1_1531421604908_connections_new.txt 0_1531421604907_connections.txt
              The connections file is the one with your latest download, removed and sorted. The other file is a new run from the polygons.txt file. All Sea Zones that have connections to land were marked with an 'x' prior to running so any that didn't connect were removed. Those were the only changes. Load both into notepad++ so that they can be compared side by side.

              Hope this helps in your efforts.

              Cheers...

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              • HeppsH Offline
                Hepps Moderators
                last edited by

                Don't know if this has come up... but @CrazyG what did you envision as the default way this game should played? Dice or Low Luck?

                "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                Hepster

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                • CrazyGC Offline
                  CrazyG Moderators @Hepps
                  last edited by

                  @hepps
                  Dice. I have LL on as default for early testing purposes

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                  • HeppsH Offline
                    Hepps Moderators @CrazyG
                    last edited by

                    @crazyg Good to know.

                    "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                    Hepster

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                    • wc_sumptonW Offline
                      wc_sumpton
                      last edited by

                      @CrazyG
                      One of the things that I really like about this map is the absents of clutter. With the amount of territories, leaving the names off makes this map seem 'roomier'. But I would think about adding the city names to give a feel of location.

                      Also I would think about splitting up the 'Navy' unit into two different units. A Caravel used to transport troops and receive the movement tech. The other a Galleon that would attack like Cannon (two dice, and added to the supportAttachmentCastleRolls) and receive a bombard tech, but not movement.

                      I would increase the transport cost of Knights and Cannon to 3 and set canInvadeOnlyFrom to none. The Caravel's transportCapacity could be set to 3 (maybe 4, or set it to 4 as a tech) and isCombatTransport to true.

                      Any way to both you and @Hepps this is a very nice map.

                      Cheers...

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                      • HeppsH Offline
                        Hepps Moderators @wc_sumpton
                        last edited by

                        @wc_sumpton This was all @CrazyG . I just drew some pretty pictures. The real beauty of this map is in its design.

                        "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                        Hepster

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                        • FrostionF Offline
                          Frostion Admin
                          last edited by

                          If not splitting up the "Navy" unit, I would recommend the unit be renamed "Fleet". I feel it is more appropriate to say "I am attacking with two fleets" than say "I am attacking with two navies". A nation only has one navy as far as I know. 🤔

                          Map maker of: Star Wars: Galactic War + Star Wars: Tatooine War + Caribbean Trade War + Dragon War + Age of Tribes + Star Trek: Dilithium War + Iron War + Iron War: Europe + Warcraft: War Heroes

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                          • C Offline
                            Cernel Moderators @Frostion
                            last edited by

                            @frostion That'd be surely an improvement but, still, "fleet" is a concept that doesn't envision an unitary or quantitative distribution, but, rather, a strategic one. Likely, game wise, a stack of sea units in the same sea zone would be a fleet (while, of course, the navy is the whole for the potentate).

                            Why not just "ships"?

                            Anyways, I suggested to change navy, as well, way back:
                            @cernel said in Crazy Europe: House of Habsburg:

                            @crazyg
                            Names changes suggestions, if it is the early XVII century, in my order of preference, left to right:
                            crossbow->crossbowmen (but, really, from 1600 there should be none; they are almost extinct)
                            musketmen->musketeers
                            cannon->cannons
                            horsemen->harquebusiers/petronels
                            knights->cuirassiers/gendarmes/reiters/lancers
                            navy->ships (or man-of-wars and barques, if you split military and transport)
                            castle is a touch too medieval, and I remember you gave some good suggestions for this time in Age of Tribes

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                            • CrazyGC Offline
                              CrazyG Moderators @wc_sumpton
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                              @wc_sumpton
                              I won't be adding new types of ships unless I get art for them that matches the current style. I'm at the mercy of an artist to volunteer on this.

                              I had the same thought about cannons and knights invading from sea, and having techs that improved capacity. I'm leaving it as is for the moment for two reasons

                              1. I'm hardly ever seeing those units used amphibiously anyways
                              2. Without cannons, its almost impossible to take castles by sea. You need at least 6 navies to do so, which seems like too many.
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                              • HeppsH Offline
                                Hepps Moderators @CrazyG
                                last edited by

                                @crazyg I'm sure if you asked @Frostion REALLY nicely you could probably use the Battleship image from the Caribbean Trade War game with very little effort to adjust it slightly to match HOH.

                                "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                Hepster

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                                • FrostionF Offline
                                  Frostion Admin
                                  last edited by

                                  I will see what I can do in regards to making a new and bigger ship image for a new unit type. ☺

                                  Map maker of: Star Wars: Galactic War + Star Wars: Tatooine War + Caribbean Trade War + Dragon War + Age of Tribes + Star Trek: Dilithium War + Iron War + Iron War: Europe + Warcraft: War Heroes

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                                  • C Offline
                                    Cernel Moderators
                                    last edited by

                                    Personally, I'm confortable with a single ship unit, even tho it makes sense to have the choice to focus on a transport or warring navy.
                                    In TripleA, I always had issues with warships and transports, as the old rulesets have fodder transports and the new have defenceless transports, and I don't like either.
                                    At the end, it all depends on what is gonna be here.

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                                    • FrostionF Offline
                                      Frostion Admin
                                      last edited by Frostion

                                      Here is a battleship type unit. I hope I have hit the mark in regards to the right player color. Otherwise, please adjust them:
                                      0_1531691134365_Navy.png
                                      0_1531691312535_BigShip6.png
                                      0_1531691336930_Navy2.png
                                      0_1531691375250_BigShip1.png
                                      0_1531691474998_Navy3.png
                                      0_1531691478204_BigShip8.png
                                      0_1531691519523_Navy4.png
                                      0_1531691544015_BigShip2.png
                                      0_1531692126211_Navy5.png
                                      0_1531692128466_BigShip5.png
                                      0_1531692165283_Navy6.png
                                      0_1531692173442_BigShip9.png
                                      0_1531692208265_Navy7.png
                                      0_1531692400719_BigShip7.png
                                      0_1531692475550_Navy8.png
                                      0_1531692725674_BigShip3.png
                                      0_1531692651132_Navy9.png
                                      0_1531692655127_BigShip4.png

                                      Map maker of: Star Wars: Galactic War + Star Wars: Tatooine War + Caribbean Trade War + Dragon War + Age of Tribes + Star Trek: Dilithium War + Iron War + Iron War: Europe + Warcraft: War Heroes

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                                      • C Offline
                                        Cernel Moderators @Frostion
                                        last edited by Cernel

                                        @frostion Fitting names for (referring to) this timeline (not talking about the unit image) are, in my order of preference (but plural, if the other units are), man-of-war or galleon.
                                        I guess warship or battleship are good too (not really a clue, actually), with the generic meaning of ships for battle.
                                        Also, isn't the current "navy" representing a cutter (a very small single-masted warship, armed with cannons)?

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                                        • C Offline
                                          Cernel Moderators @Frostion
                                          last edited by

                                          @frostion To hijack the topic, I surely suggest using the new image in substitution of the Sail-Ship one currently in Age of Tribes.

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                                          • CrazyGC Offline
                                            CrazyG Moderators
                                            last edited by

                                            @Frostion
                                            Looks great, Ill add it ASAP.

                                            There will be an update tomorrow 🙂

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