Crazy Europe: House of Habsburg

[CrazyG]

The rest of Frostion's document has worked well for me. There is only one issue I'm not clear on, editing the YAML file. The instructions say to click the pencil icon, then "Insert/add my map to the list". I don't get that option, attempting to edit the file as intended but instructions here aren't clear

[CrazyG]

Nevermind the above, I think I've got a working version submitted as a pull request.

[Hepps]

@crazyg Here is my little contribution to your project....

Use or do not.... I just got so damn excited to see this map I had to fill my time with something while I waited.

[CrazyG]

I'll happily use it. Redrum is helping me correct my formatting errors, (I think) the map is close to available.

[Hepps]

@crazyg You are in good hands.

[Hepps]

Not sure if the union of Denmark-Norway is a faction... but did that butter churn just move... cause if it did.

And if the English aren't to busy killing each other and decide to get in on the action.

And... but of course.... we can not forget the French....

[General_Zod]

@CrazyG

Here's a couple decent version for Poland-Lithuania.

[General_Zod]

I think Austria was not a sole powerhouse of Europe at this time frame. A more appropriate name should be used. This name gives impression Austria will win the war or that Austria is the sole nation to defeat.

[CrazyG]

I'll look to update the flags, thanks for the images guys. Denmark-Norway is in the game! The British aren't, I figured the Brits (and the Germans) get enough face time so I left them out.

@general_zod
There is no nation named Austria. Austria, Czechslovakia, Spain, the Netherlands, part of Italy, and part of France are all controlled by the same nation, the Habsburg monarchy. Its the most powerful nation in income and army size, but the Ottomans aren't that far behind.

[Cernel]

@crazyg
Names changes suggestions, if it is the early XVII century, in my order of preference, left to right:
crossbow->crossbowmen (but, really, from 1600 there should be none; they are almost extinct)
musketmen->musketeers
cannon->cannons
horsemen->harquebusiers/petronels
knights->cuirassiers/gendarmes/reiters/lancers
navy->ships (or man-of-wars and barques, if you split military and transport)
castle is a touch too medieval, and I remember you gave some good suggestions for this time in Age of Tribes

[Cernel]

@crazyg The main things that come to my mind right away are:

1. Genova and Venice were mortal enemies.
2. Prussia as a player.
3. Nogay Horde as a player.

I realise that in a 1v1 it is hard to get all in, especially Genova and Venice.

[alkexr]

@cernel Prussia wasn't yet a thing: http://www.zum.de/whkmla/histatlas/germany/brandenbg16181740.gif

[Cernel]

@alkexr There is continuity between the lands of the Teutonic Order and Prussia; I would also add Brandenburg, as part of it, even if the game starting a few decades before that union, but just call it Prussia, for game's sake.

[Hepps]

Since it is 'Crazy Europe' ... will there be mad kings that have erratic support attachments? Maybe having positive support attachments for troops one turn and negative ones the next turn?

[alkexr]

@cernel "By 1643–44, the developing army numbered only 5,500 troops, including 500 musketeers in Frederick William's bodyguard." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_Army#Creation_of_the_army
Even the Transylvanian army (6000) was larger in the Thirty Years' War: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Years'_War
Prussia started becoming a non-negligible power around the time of the War of Austrian Succession and the Seven Years' War (after 1740).

[Cernel]

@alkexr The Teutonic Knights were very small in numbers too.

[redrum]

Might want to at least let the map be released and play it a bit before getting too carried away with suggestions

[CrazyG]

When choosing what nations to add and what alliance I was mostly looking at the borders created. Looking at the map, England is either enemies with France and basically only attacks France, or is allies with France and only raids the Habsburgs. It seemed to me that England would play the same way every time, so I left him out. The existing nations all have enemies in a few directions so they can explore different options. As for adding someone like Brandenburg, my questions who will Brandenburg end up fighting? Do they spend three turns conquering neutrals? If so I'm going to leave them out.

[CrazyG]

I just successfully downloaded the game from the experimental section. If anyone plays it, please post here! I'd love to get feedback and savegames

[redrum]

@crazyg I like the overall concept. I think the biggest drawbacks are:

1. The map image is pretty rough with very thick territory lines.
2. Gameplay and the unit set are very simplistic.

Seems like there are some interesting potential concepts around coastal areas and the overall alliances seem pretty interesting.