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    • alkexrA Offline
      alkexr @Hepps
      last edited by

      @hepps Anyway...

      So I'm not sure it is necessary to change the territory names. But if I try to reverse the situation, and imagine that the question is whether or not the new names should be changed to the original names, I can't think of any reason to do that. So it's just status quo bias on my behalf: the new names are better.

      As for placement of stuff: I'll just write a program where I can place this stuff instead of having to manually edit the placement files. I have done it manually once for this map, that was enough for me too 🙂 I'll also write a better placement picker I think. Not now, though, this will have to wait until around August, barring miracles.

      "For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air."

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      • HeppsH Offline
        Hepps Moderators @alkexr
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        @alkexr That would be a superb improvement.

        I don't mind doing it all as long as we do it in this method....

        1. All of the terrain and relief imagery will simply be put into the Base Tiles folder.

        2. All of the PU, UP and Territory Names will be placed in the Relief Tiles folder.

        3. If and when we implement Flags for the map (or anything else) they will be placed in the Decorations Layer.

        Doing it this way will allow me to do everything for you as well as making any alterations very quickly without all the laborious work associated with doing things with the established methods. If and when an easier system is developed we can redo all the work at that time as it will be simple to change.

        "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
        Hepster

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        • HeppsH Offline
          Hepps Moderators @alkexr
          last edited by Hepps

          @alkexr And to be clear... if you export a snapshot of the last version of the map with the new names (Hide the units)... I can have all of this done tonight.

          I can set up all of the Base, Relief folders with all the tiles already done and send them back to you.

          "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
          Hepster

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          • redrumR Offline
            redrum Admin @Hepps
            last edited by

            @hepps Definitely think the bolder names look nicer and more professional.

            TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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            • HeppsH Offline
              Hepps Moderators @alkexr
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              @alkexr And if you want to make a final decision on the Title of this new work I can include a decorative title banner to the Bottom left hand corner of the map.

              0_1529859152841_Title shot2.png

              "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
              Hepster

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              • HeppsH Offline
                Hepps Moderators @redrum
                last edited by

                @redrum And we know... I am all about appearing professional. 😃

                "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                Hepster

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                • prastleP Offline
                  prastle Moderators Admin @Hepps
                  last edited by

                  @hepps gigglez

                  need your banner in donations drive bro

                  If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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                  • HeppsH Offline
                    Hepps Moderators @prastle
                    last edited by Hepps

                    @prastle You mean the thermometer?

                    "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                    Hepster

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                      prastle Moderators Admin @Hepps
                      last edited by

                      @hepps si

                      If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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                      • HeppsH Offline
                        Hepps Moderators @prastle
                        last edited by

                        @prastle Way to hijack a thread for your own purposes! 😃

                        "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                        Hepster

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                        • prastleP Offline
                          prastle Moderators Admin @Hepps
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                          @hepps Im evil like that

                          If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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                          • alkexrA Offline
                            alkexr @redrum
                            last edited by

                            @redrum You mean something like
                            0_1529868368991_c36c4ae2-1654-4bea-bace-59c16813d3eb-image.png

                            Not Hepps-quality (yet!), but this is the first ever time I try pixel art. I didn't know I could do something like this.

                            Not promising anything though. Let's get the map going first.

                            0_1529868627569_aad3455f-3e2b-4cae-9024-1960c12f79ec-image.png

                            "For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air."

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                            • alkexrA Offline
                              alkexr
                              last edited by

                              Wow. TripleA supports all sorts of weird characters in territory names? That does make things easier.

                              "For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air."

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                                Cernel Moderators @alkexr
                                last edited by Cernel

                                @alkexr I think that is already about the quality of the current units images of 270BC, that I believe are at least decent. Personally, I like the units style of LotR. Maybe I used the wrong words, but what I meant is that now the units and the rest of the graphics are strikingly different in style.

                                I believe hobbits should have bigger feet?

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                                  Cernel Moderators
                                  last edited by Cernel

                                  Also, is having hobbits as combat units sensible at all with the lore? I remember little about the books, but someone that knows it better than me (I assume) told me that it makes no sense to have hobbits as military units (we were talking about the regular TA LotR).

                                  I personally like both the current units of 270BC (they can be improved, as @Hepps showed, but I think they are already quite good) and the units of LotR; so I was talking just relatively with matching the rest of the graphic. On this regard, your new proposal clearly matches it much better. Also good idea about the white around the picture, to make it easier to spot, but I'm worried that may make sometimes hard to read the white stack numbers (not sure).

                                  EDIT: Almost forgot. If you (or anyone) are going to redo the units 270BC (Civilization II) style, I strongly suggest them being at least 64x64 pixels, even tho such a dimension is currently not fully supported by the program.

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                                  • alkexrA Offline
                                    alkexr @Cernel
                                    last edited by

                                    @cernel Hobbits did fight a "battle" in the War of the Ring (Battle of Bywater), and they also sent several hundred archers to help out Arnor against the Witch-King. But that's basically everything, so no, not too sensible. But then again, we never saw the Shire come under serious attack, and Hobbits are very resilient and enduring; I think it is reasonable to assume that the Enemy would have been surprised at the resistance he would have met, had he invaded them.

                                    "For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air."

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                                    • HeppsH Offline
                                      Hepps Moderators
                                      last edited by

                                      Very nearing completion.

                                      Here is the coast of Gondor...

                                      0_1529951892241_Coast of Gondor.png

                                      "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                      Hepster

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                                      • alkexrA Offline
                                        alkexr @Hepps
                                        last edited by

                                        @hepps Wow.

                                        "For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air."

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                                        • HeppsH Offline
                                          Hepps Moderators @alkexr
                                          last edited by

                                          @alkexr 😃

                                          Now you are going to have to stretch those hamstrings for unit drawing.

                                          "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                          Hepster

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                                          • HeppsH Offline
                                            Hepps Moderators
                                            last edited by

                                            Was taking a stroll last night through the Civ Fanatics forum...

                                            Probably all the resources you need to change all the units to more detailed versions is there if you want. Here is an example of what I did quickly with just 2 of the units I found there...

                                            0_1530021330796_Units potential.png

                                            "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                            Hepster

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