Future for tripleawarclub.org domain
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@RoiEX Unlikely, given it's Thanksgiving week here in the US.
Maybe we should just renew the domain for another year and only let it expire once everything has been migrated?
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I'll try getting something working then.
Renewing the domain should be the last resort though. -
We could of course just do the same thing we did with the forum and just use a generic Gmail account.
And perhaps create a dedicated mail in the future, looks like it's going to a little bit more complicated than I thought: Apparently CNAME records take precedence over MX records, which we use for github pages.
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@RoiEX Sorry, no. When I set up the Docker container, I punted on that aspect by offloading specification of the mail account to the user running the container. That would be no different than your dedicated Gmail account idea.
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Too bad, I remember having a conversation with you regarding that topic now.
But AFAIK we're currently not using docker for the live system, so fiddling around with some php or sendmail configs might be a viable option for now.
Can you think of any other potential option that I might be able to pull off in time, that doesn't involve running a dedicated mail server on our own?
If not I'll do what I can on the weekend. -
@RoiEX Sorry, nothing comes to mind other than what's already been discussed.
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Nevermind then, maybe @LaFayette or @redrum have an idea on what could be done.
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@RoiEX @ssoloff I can renew it for 1 year for $20.00. BUT @LaFayette and @redrum were the ones that said to not renew it and try to sell or close it... There have been zero offers on Go Daddy for a purchase.
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@RoiEX No real additional thoughts. If we can't get everything off the old domain then I agree renewing for a year.
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In a non-compat state we can't get upgraded game clients out to everyone that easily as well. Having a few more weeks and avoiding an emergency release is worth $20. @prastle please do a renewal for a year. We can 'sell' the domain before the expiry when we are ready.
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@LaFayette Oki Doki
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After digging through all the config files I'm almost sure sure that the mail could be migrated by simply modifying the hosts file to use lobby.triplea-game.org or something instead of tripleawarclub.org and to change the "From" email in the MARTI source code accordingly.
@ssoloff I'm not that familiar with how sendmail exactly works, but does my theory sound plausible? -
@RoiEX It's been a long time since I did the MARTI stuff, so I can't really say what's the right way to go here. If I had to guess, I'd say a config-only change makes sense. I don't remember how the MARTI mail relay "proves itself" to the downstream mail relay--if that's done purely through DNS or there's something more substantial like a PKI validation.
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@ssoloff It has been renewed for another year.
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@LaFayette and @ssoloff @RoiEX @redrum tripleawarclub domain needs renewal again or do I let it expire?
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@prastle Thanks for the reminder, there are 2 things that need to be done. AFAIK we need to backport the URL change to 1.9 to ensure that PbEM/PbF games can be ended no problem on that version. That's the easy part and I can create a PR for that this evening.
The other part where we failed last year was figuring out how to change the server MARTI mails are being sent from. It could be the case that it's sufficient to just change the "from" mail but someone would have to "risk it" and fiddle around with production -
@LaFayette You had to deal with mail servers for the current HTTP migration, do you think it's sufficient to just change this line in order to be on safe?
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@RoiEX
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@RoiEX Funny enough, lobby is decoupled pretty strongly from email. How marti+email are set up on the servers is the current and largest systems documentation gap we have. There was zero documentation of any system setup when I took over the servers, that's better now, though as mentioned, marti+email have no documentation to them. I do not know how they work or are configured.
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@RoiEX more directly, I think chances are good that is safe. We'd probably need to recreate the manual testing that was originally done for marti, ie: set up a test server, deploy the PHP code, hack the client to use the new test server, and verify it works.
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