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    • ubernautU Offline
      ubernaut Moderators @redrum
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      @redrum another i've noticed in past ai at least on this map is that the ai doesn't seem to understand the effects of ports very well.

      "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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        redrum Admin @ubernaut
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        @ubernaut It didn't attack France at all? That would seem pretty strange. Does that happen frequently?

        Yeah, I believe the AI will use the airfield and port move bonus but I don't think it actively tries to end in a sea zone with a port (I believe it does actively try to land where there are airfields).

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          ubernaut Moderators @redrum
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          @redrum well in the past at least it wasn't aware of my range and i only saw it not attack france once wiht the prerelease but i will try it again. 🙂

          "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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            redrum Admin @ubernaut
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            @ubernaut Ok, I believe it should be aware of your range and if not that's a pretty big issue for the map as it would make it very easy to pick off their fleets since they wouldn't see the threat.

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            • ubernautU Offline
              ubernaut Moderators @redrum
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              @redrum i will check it for sure. 🙂

              "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                redrum Admin @ubernaut
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                @ubernaut Are you the one that reported this error? https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/issues/5929. If so can you describe when it occurred and are you able to reproduce it?

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                started game g40 2nd additiona with ai hard for axis

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                • ubernautU Offline
                  ubernaut Moderators @redrum
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                  @redrum yeah that was the second time i tried the ai might have changed some of the game options but not 100% sure how i had them set i think i unchecked choose aa casualties, and maybe remove tech tokens (but not use tech :P)

                  "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                  • Captain CrunchC Offline
                    Captain Crunch Banned @redrum
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                    @redrum you rock!

                    So, I test re-ran the same battle against the Allies AI and this time the Russia AI did attack on its 1st turn -.-

                    I'm glad the bugs were minor so I think I will now battle the Axis AI (1st match I will forfeit my 1st Russian attack for fun ... funny irony since the AI just did that vs me previous match hehehehe)

                    YES I thought the Russia AI not attacking anything on the 1st round was bizarre and so after I made my post about it I had a thought about it ... so I downloaded the latest AI upgrade prerelease 2.0.17997 because I was playing the 1.9.0.0.13066 stable release version of the game and so the game downloader asks you to update your game to 2.0.17997 and I clicked yes ... well I then ran the game BUT I DIDN'T REDOWNLOAD THE WWIIClassic MAP although it was still in the game folder and I could still play it but I just wondered if not redownloading the WWIIClassic map may have caused that weird glitch? Just my thought.

                    Ok, I really should re-battle the Allies AI (it's the toughest scenario to battle against the AI since the Axis AI is easier because its just 2 countries) but I will eventually try for a win vs the latest Axis AI and then post it.

                    redrum, thanks for understanding and mentioning my problem with the Combat Window ... it just needs like 2 or 3 more centimetres height or lower those Quick/Fast buttons below it or make it so we can remove those Quick/Fast buttons below the Combat Window.

                    I'll post my win vs the latest Axis AI asap

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                    • ubernautU Offline
                      ubernaut Moderators @redrum
                      last edited by ubernaut

                      @redrum keep getting that error no matter which options i set
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                      "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                      • redrumR Offline
                        redrum Admin @ubernaut
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                        @ubernaut Yeah, that's a bad error. I'm assuming its happening during the AI's turn? Do you have a save game that can reproduce it?

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                        • ubernautU Offline
                          ubernaut Moderators @redrum
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                          @redrum it happens right away during German purchase phase so there's no auto-save yet.

                          "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                            redrum Admin @ubernaut
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                            @ubernaut Oh really? On just a brand new G40 game? Does it happen pretty much every time?

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                            • ubernautU Offline
                              ubernaut Moderators @redrum
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                              @redrum as far as i can tell yeah like 4/4 now

                              "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                                redrum Admin @ubernaut
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                                @ubernaut Alright. I'll take a look then today.

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                                  redrum Admin @ubernaut
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                                  @ubernaut I was able to reproduce and fix the bug on G40 G1 related to the error "IllegalStateException - ConcurrentBattleCalculator.calculate: friendlyUnits should but does not contain all units from targetsToPickFrom". Here is the PR and once that is merged, you can download the new pre-release to avoid the error: https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/pull/5933

                                  Thanks again for testing and reporting the issue.

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                                  • ubernautU Offline
                                    ubernaut Moderators @redrum
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                                    @redrum sure happy to check out the ai again after the update im not sure how to be notified tho so you might want to ping m. 🙂

                                    "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                                      redrum Admin @ubernaut
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                                      @ubernaut Ok. I'll reply here once its merged and there is a new pre-release to test.

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                                        redrum Admin @ubernaut
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                                        @ubernaut Latest pre-release should now have the fix: https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases

                                        Here is direct link for the Mac install: https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases/download/2.0.18008/TripleA_2.0.18008_macos.dmg

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                                        • ubernautU Offline
                                          ubernaut Moderators @redrum
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                                          @redrum cool will check it out soon and get back to you with my findings. 🙂

                                          "You should never have told me horses sleep standing up, it gave me a mental block." - Mister Ed

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                                          • Captain CrunchC Offline
                                            Captain Crunch Banned @redrum
                                            last edited by Captain Crunch

                                            @redrum alright here you go ... more feedback battling the Axis AI on the WWIIClassic map. Played 3 matches and finally won the 3rd match

                                            Match 1: So, I played the Axis AI finally again after maybe a year and my 1st match as always for fun I forfeited my 1st Russia turn (intentionally blow dice on Tech and only start the game if I don't get a Tech and lose all of Russia's money) and so I played very well but I totally had to concentrate on the German AI and so the Japan AI literally rolled and took Russia ez early but I did finally take down the German AI's capitol with my USA troops maybe round 9 but the Japan AI had a stack of 43 Infantry right next to it so it liberated the German AI capitol ez the next round and so funny the Japan AI easy rolled into the USA and took it's capitol because I did not see it's swift western America assault and that left me with a lone UK and so I gave up I think it was round 13. The Japan AI literally had maybe 130 units at that point because it was such a Japan AI crush

                                            Match 2: this time I didn't forfeit my 1st Russia turn and I had maybe the worst start I ever had because it had been awhile since I played this map and played this game vs the Axis AI so I lost bad my 2 first main battles vs the German AI to start and so the German AI rolled hard and had lots of PU's and took down my Russian capitol early like round 3 maybe and also it was odd the Japan AI didn't start the match attacking Pearl Harbour but it still rolled and also went straight for Western USA most of the match and FUNNY the Japan AI attacked Western USA and had 1 Infantry and 2 Fighters left and my last roll hit but the Japan AI did not choose to destroy the Fighter and take Western USA with an Infantry but instead destroyed the Infantry and retreated and left me to still own the Western USA! Eventually the Japan AI took the USA so I gave up then maybe round 14. I didn't play great but I think I was rusty

                                            Match 3: A repeat of match 2 but this time I did a perfect sweet start with Russia and the German AI was in shock from the start and I managed to hold back the Japan AI sweetly but I also now perfected my USA western defence with smarter purchases and positioning (shook the rust off) and so once I swarmed the German AI capitol I took it easy with the USA troops but I could have even taken it with my Russia troops because I played Russia so well ... in this match there was an error in round 8 that I sent to the "Report error to Triple A" function thing ... so look for that ... I forget what the error said but it was some long message and didn't effect the match I believe. Anyways, once I took the German AI capitol I bought mostly Bombers and some Tanks and my Allied countries quickly snuffed out most of the Japan AI forces and I finally ended the match in round 14 taking its capitol;

                                            latestAxisAIdefeated33.tsvg 🙂

                                            So, battling the Axis AI is way easier than battling the Allies AI as I said earlier in this thread because theres one more AI country to battle with the Allies obviously.

                                            Was fun. Redrum, I will battle the AI again once I know you've done some kind of tactical update to the AI. Could you let me know if you do

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