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Panther

@roiex There is a similar issue reported here:
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=41182.0

We already made sure that latest JRE and TripleA stable are installed on a Windows 32bit system.

Still the error occurs!
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redrum

@panther @Troianii This has happened to a few players over the past few months. Here is an issue that describes some steps that can be taken: https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/issues/2554

Panther

@redrum Yes, I remembered that issue having been solved by removing outdated JRE and installing the latest ones. That is what I recommended to the user in the above mentioned thread. But it looks like that did not solve the problem in this case.

ssoloff

@panther There is one other cause of this issue that we've identified, and that is if the user has some kind of SSL/TLS proxy installed (typically found as part of parental controls software), as discussed in https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/issues/2472. Running the OpenSSL test described in #2554 or #2472 would allow us to confirm if that's the case.

Also, I read that post on A&A.org, and it's not clear if the user removed the problematic JRE. If you read #2554 carefully, the outdated JRE that was causing the problem was installed by TripleA itself, so it is is not uninstallable via Control Panel--the user has to actually delete a folder within their profile to get rid of it. (Even if a newer version of Java is installed, the TripleA launcher will prefer the outdated JRE that was installed when TripleA was installed.) We can verify if this is the problem by having the user start a local game, open the debug console, and click the Properties button. Have them paste or attach the console output. From that we can see exactly which JRE is being selected.

Given that the user was eventually able to get PBEM working, I suspect an SSL/TLS proxy may not be in play here. So, I'd start with the second recommendation to capture the debug console properties to determine from where TripleA is picking up the JRE.

Panther

@ssoloff Thank you for your synopsis. I never experienced install4j installing a JRE, so that lack of own experience mislead me to somehow misunderstand that part of information when going through that issue.
Got it now and will go on troubleshooting.

prastle

@panther if you diiscover how to uninstall it slap me! Had a similar problem with triplea insttalliing 32 bit java and still running it after having 64 bit java installed. (New hard drives) and triplea auto installed 32 bit. I should have reinstalled java before triplea I guess.

Panther

@prastle In case install4j autoinstalled Java when installing TripleA you will find those Java installation(s) here:

c:\program files\common files\i4j_jres\1.8.0_xxx

or (if 32bit) here:

c:\program files (x86)\common files\i4j_jres\1.8.0_xxx

Simply delete the Java version folder(s).

prastle

@panther thanks

ssoloff

@panther @prastle Note that install4j only uses C:\Program Files\Common Files\i4j_jres and C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\i4j_jres if you install TripleA as an admin. If you install it as a user without admin rights, I believe it will go to C:\Users\me\.i4j_jres .

prastle

@ssoloff it was installed with admin but what I discovered is that if you install TripleA on a clean system, that doesn't have Java, it auto installs 32 bit(even with 64 bit download). If you install 64 java after it still runs the 32 bit as triplea.

ssoloff

@prastle Interesting. It may be that the 64-bit installer is bundling the wrong JRE. I'll try to reproduce.

Panther

@ssoloff Apart from this - is it always the latest JRE that is installed ... and does a bundled JRE installed with TripleA ever get an update?

RoiEX

@Panther We update it every now and then, but the process is difficult and not really thought out currently.
Now that I'm thinking of it, we should just have a single filename for the bundled JREs and just make the installers point to the revision. @ssoloff

RoiEX

@prastle Are you sure your TripleA ships the wrong JRE?
I recall your issue only occured when invoking triplea via the commandline, in this case it's not the installers fault

Panther

@roiex But a once installed bundled JRE will never be updated? Or is there sort of a version control?

RoiEX

The installer won't do anything when there's a JRE already installed on the system.
So no, no updating.

prastle

@roiex yes @RoiEX
you recall my bot fixes that you helped me with

prastle

@prastle they didn't work because 32 bit was running in background with a clean install

prastle

@prastle issue is simple it auto installs 32 bit if you don't have java yet
even with 64 bit dl

prastle

@RoiEX I guess the true test would be to install java before dl triplea on a clean install

BUT

I can 100% say
since I watched it do it!
If you dl TripleA stable
It will install java
if you don't have it yet
and will screw up your 64 bit bots
then you will ask Roi wtf?
and he will help you eidt it to 32 bit

hopefully this jogs your memory bro