Game 2 - Global 40 EXP - Alexander (Axis) vs. Panzer (Allies) - Operation Spring Awakening
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Hi Alex
Yea you can't do the TakeOver because you have Italians in Tobruk.
Edit
I will look at making it so the TTys don't change if the conditions aren't met. If the conditions were met, most of the dudes would auto change for you.You can test it out with the old save by not attacking Tobruk to see how it works.
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@beelee Thanks, I just thought it mattered at the start of the turn but looking back I now read that it's on Germany's turn not Italy's turn. First time doing this (and admittedly exicted if you can see what's coming in Germany's turn)
I reverted that one combat, updated version below:
game-2-alex-vs-panzer_operation-spring-awakening_it7-edited.tsvg
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Right Arm
Yea it has to happen on Italy's turn because they won't change on Germany's turn in triplea. Only on Italy's.
So there can be rare instances where ANZC and technically France too, although I've never encountered it, where'd you need to hand roll and edit any results.
Edit
So it'd probably be easier to just redo your turn and edit the combat accoringly as opposed to changing all the dudes. Here's an exampleThe LCVs and Paras. although there aren't any in the above save, still look Italian but are German controlled.
You have to add up the income by hand and roll for any convoy damage, then adjust Italy income. On G's turn, you then transfer their income from Italy via edit.
Sometimes you will need to edit upgraded facillities.
Edit 2
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@beelee Sounds good, will change tonight...do unarmed mines stay Italian or do they change to German?
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hmm ... I'm not sure about that . I'll have to check. Might have to ask the Captain. It seems they'd change as they are unarmed but Idk
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@beelee Thanks, I would assume that you would have to move/place them during the German turn as there is no Italy turn but figured it'd be better to ask first... corrected version coming soon
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game-2-alex-vs-panzer_operation-spring-awakening_it7_fixed.tsvg
Ok, I think I did it right now - I only needed to edit the landing craft to German manually.
(Did combat in edit to keep original rolls)
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yea actually the LCVs are German controlled, they just look like Italian still. Paras do the same. I think I did it to keep track of the max builds. I don't remember.
But yea, can change them if you want.
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Ciao Italia!
My wife will not be very amused, once she found out!
Take Over Italy shakes up the game and is in my eyes the stronges element of the EXP rules.BR
Game History
Round: 7 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 destroyer and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC Combat - ANZAC Trigger Remove All BritishParaBoost: has removed 1 uk_paraBoost owned by British in Denmark Trigger Remove All RussiansParaBoost: has removed 1 russian_paraBoost owned by Russians in Ethiopia Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone Non Combat Move - ANZAC Trigger RussiansParaBoost atTobruk: Russians has 1 russian_paraBoost placed in Tobruk Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone Trigger RussiansParaBoost atEthiopia: Russians has 1 russian_paraBoost placed in Ethiopia Trigger BritishParaBoost atDenmark: British has 1 uk_paraBoost placed in Denmark 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 45 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 62 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone Place Units - ANZAC 1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 15 PUs; end with 16 PUs Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 21 PUs Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 26 PUs Combat Move - French Combat - French Trigger Remove All BritishParaBoost: has removed 1 uk_paraBoost owned by British in Denmark Trigger Remove All RussiansParaBoost: has removed 1 russian_paraBoost owned by Russians in Tobruk Trigger Remove All RussiansParaBoost: has removed 1 russian_paraBoost owned by Russians in Ethiopia Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone Non Combat Move - French Trigger RussiansParaBoost atTobruk: Russians has 1 russian_paraBoost placed in Tobruk Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone Trigger RussiansParaBoost atEthiopia: Russians has 1 russian_paraBoost placed in Ethiopia Trigger BritishParaBoost atDenmark: British has 1 uk_paraBoost placed in Denmark Turn Complete - FrenchCombat Hit Differential Summary :
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@Panzerstahl-Helm-0 Haha
Question: Does this symbol just indicate the transfer of the French forces to the UK (like the take over of Italy one), or does it actually represent the infantry and fighter? (Is there another fighter to worry about?)
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Hi Alex
It just represents the switch. The switch needs to be made manually the way LL works. It doesn't auto delete, so you need to use edit.
I guess I could make it auto delete but as you have to fire up edit to remove the French dudes anyway, it doesn't really seem worth it
When do you split for JPN ?
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@beelee Thanks, that confirmation makes this crazy plan possible!
@panzerstahl-helm-0 A few items for the German turn
Russian Land Mines: hot! 2 inf will be edited away before combat rolls
Italian Naval Mines: average, 1 battleship will take damage before combat rolls
Would you like to scramble? (Either way I should wipe the allied fleet easily)
game-2-alex-vs-panzer_operation-spring-awakening_g8_scramble.tsvg
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@beelee I leave tomorrow late in the night (~28 hrs from now) so I may be able to squeeze in 1, possibly 2 turns before going AWOL
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Guten Abend!
Well done! That was an excellent execution of the take Over Italy!
This is a nasty feature of the game.
Will see how to tackle that and how it works out.That spices up the game.
Full scramble
And save travels and enjoy Japan. You will love it.
BR
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@Panzerstahl-Helm-0 Thanks mate! But I am starting to power down after packing all evening. I'll roll the dice when I'm back in a couple of weeks, enjoy the "temporary peace" lol
Yes, I have been traumatized by Italy 'can-opening' in the OOB rules - now this takeover situation is even more crazy to watch out for!
Will do, thanks again. I look forward to it!
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@Panzerstahl-Helm-0 Hello, the Germans were able to make a channel dash while the Allies were conducting D-Day further to the west. It is not looking pretty...
At least Ivan was able to punch well above his weight in Bryansk.
game-2-alex-vs-panzer_operation-spring-awakening_g8_final.tsvg
If I messed up, here is the pre Sea Lion save (I don't think I did it to get the UK fighter in London to hit on 5s but it doesn't matter as it hit anyways)
game-2-alex-vs-panzer_operation-spring-awakening_g8_prenaval.tsvg
Actions And Operations Germans spend 5 PUs on User Action: Action Germans TakeOverItaly Action Germans TakeOverItaly activates a trigger called: Trigger GermansAtWarWithItaly Trigger GermansAtWarWithItaly: Changing Relationship for Germans and Italians from Allied to War Setting uses for triggers used this phase. Purchase Units Note to players Germans: <body><b>It is Late 1943 and Our Factories are Now Producing Panzer Jagers !<br><br><img src="PanzerJagerFS.png"/><br><br></body> Note to players Germans: <body><b>It is Late 1943 and Germany Receives One Free SubPen !<br /><br><br><img src="SubPen.png"/><b></body> Note to players Germans: <body><b>It is Late 1943 and Our Factories are Now Producing Heavy Bombers !<br><br><img src="German_Hvy_Bmbr.png"/><br><br><img src="HvyBmbr.png"/><b></body> Trigger HvyCVBmbrs: Setting canBeGivenByTerritoryTo to British:Germans for unitAttachment attached to JPNbomber Trigger HvyCVBmbrs: Setting canBeGivenByTerritoryTo to British:Germans for unitAttachment attached to USAbomber Trigger ItalianLCVsGermanControlled: Setting maxBuiltPerPlayer to 10 for unitAttachment attached to German_LCV Trigger ItalianParasGermanControlled: Setting maxBuiltPerPlayer to 14 for unitAttachment attached to german_para Trigger PanzerJagerFS: buyPanzerJagerFS added to productionGermans Trigger German Hvy Bmbr: buyGerman_Hvy_Bmbr added to productionGermans triggerAttachmenEarly1943: has removed 1 Early1943_red owned by Changer in Early 1943 Trigger GermansTakeOverItalyDestruct: has removed 1 TakeOverItaly owned by Italians in Southern Italy triggerAttachmenLate1943Red: has removed 1 Late1943 owned by Changer in Late 1943 triggerAttachmenEarly1943: Changer has 1 Early1943 placed in Early 1943 triggerAttachmenLate1943Red: Changer has 1 Late1943_red placed in Late 1943 Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone Setting uses for triggers used this phase. Germans buy 1 PanzerJagerFS, 1 elite and 16 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceGermans: Germans has 2 G_Rails placed in Germany Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceGermansItalyTakeover: Germans has 1 Europe_Rail placed in Germany Setting uses for triggers used this phase. Resetting and Giving Bonus Movement to Units Cleaning up during movement phase 1 armour and 1 elite moved from Norway to 112 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 elite and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 GermanUBoat moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 elite moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom Germans undo move 3. 1 submarine moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 92 Sea Zone 1 Escort, 1 Escort_Convoy, 1 artillery, 2 battleships, 1 carrier, 3 destroyers, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone Germans undo move 6. 1 Escort, 1 Escort_Convoy, 2 battleships, 1 carrier and 3 destroyers moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 3 transports moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Western Germany: 1 GAirCommanderTac, 2 GfighterAFs and 1 Gtactical_bomberAF EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Western Germany: 1 GAirCommander, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 1st Luftflotten: 1 GAirCommander, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom 1 GAirCommanderTac, 2 GfighterAFs, 1 Gtactical_bomberAF, 1 fighter and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone 2 bombers moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Southern France to 110 Sea Zone 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Southern Italy to 110 Sea Zone Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: 1 Italian_LCV, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Malta to Tobruk EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 artillery moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 3 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 armour moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 2 Wolfpacks moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 Escort_Convoy and 8 GermanUBoats moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 2 Me_109Ts moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 GermanUBoat moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 GermanUBoat moved from 119 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone Germans undo move 17. Germans undo move 16. 3 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 armour moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Denmark 1 armour moved from Holland Belgium to Denmark 1 SP_Artillery moved from Germany to Denmark 1 GermanUBoat moved from 125 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone Germans undo move 28. Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: 1 Italian_LCV and 2 infantry moved from Greece to Rostov EDIT: 1 german_para moved from Belarus to Ukraine 1 Waffen_Oberst and 1 waffen_infantry moved from Belarus to Bessarabia 1 Panzer_Grndrs moved from Baltic States to Bessarabia Germans undo move 31. Germans undo move 30. 1 Panzer_Grndrs moved from Baltic States to Western Ukraine 1 Waffen_Oberst and 1 waffen_infantry moved from Belarus to Western Ukraine 1 fighter moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia Germans undo move 32. Germans undo move 31. Germans undo move 30. Germans undo move 29. Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Belarus: 1 1stPanzerArmy, 1 1stWaffenArmy, 1 2ndWaffenArmy, 1 ElitePanzer, 2 armour and 1 elite EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Belarus: 1 ArmyGroupCentre EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Army Group Centre: 1 1stPanzerArmy, 1 1stWaffenArmy, 1 2ndWaffenArmy, 1 ElitePanzer, 2 armour and 1 elite EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 4 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia 1 Panzer_Grndrs moved from Baltic States to Bessarabia Germans undo move 30. Germans undo move 29. Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: 1 german_para moved from Belarus to Ukraine 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk 1 1stWaffenArmy moved from Belarus to Novgorod 1 1stWaffenPnzrArmy moved from Baltic States to Novgorod Germans undo move 32. Germans undo move 31. Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Novgorod: 1 waffen_PG_Active and 3 waffen_panzers EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Baltic States: 1 1stWaffenPnzrArmy EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Novgorod: 1 WaffenPioneer and 1 WaffenPnzrGrndr EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Novgorod: 1 Waffen_Arty and 1 Waffen_Oberst_3 EDIT: 1 1stWaffenArmy moved from Belarus to Smolensk EDIT: Germans undo move 30. EDIT: Germans undo move 29. EDIT: Germans undo move 29. EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Belarus: 1 1stWaffenArmy EDIT: 1 german_para moved from Belarus to Ukraine 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Western Ukraine: 1 WaffenPioneerAttack, 1 Waffen_Arty, 1 Waffen_Oberst_3 and 1 waffen_infantry EDIT: Germans undo move 30. EDIT: Germans undo move 29. EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Belarus: 1 2ndWaffenArmy EDIT: 1 german_para moved from Belarus to Ukraine EDIT: 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Novgorod: 1 WaffenPioneerAttack EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Novgorod: 1 WaffenPioneer EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 Waffen_Oberst moved from Belarus to Western Ukraine 4 infantry moved from Belarus to Novgorod 1 artillery moved from Belarus to Novgorod 1 waffen_infantry moved from Belarus to Western Ukraine 1 Panzer_Grndrs and 1 waffen_panzer moved from Baltic States to Western Ukraine 1 Waffen_Oberst moved from Belarus to Western Ukraine 4 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia 1 tactical_bomber moved from Belarus to Western Ukraine 1 fighter moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland 1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Game Loaded Combat EDIT: Trigger Wolfpack at110 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 110 Sea Zone EDIT: Americans scrambles 3 units out of United Kingdom to defend against the attack in 110 Sea Zone EDIT: Adding units owned by British to United Kingdom: 1 HomeDefense EDIT: Battle in Western Ukraine EDIT: Battle in Tobruk EDIT: Battle in Novgorod EDIT: Battle in Bessarabia EDIT: Battle in Bryansk EDIT: Battle in Finland EDIT: Battle in Denmark EDIT: Battle in 110 Sea Zone EDIT: Battle in United Kingdom EDIT: Recording Battle Statistics EDIT: Trigger Germans Conquer London: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_Axis_Capture_London_Switch attached to Germans EDIT: Trigger Remove All RussiansParaBoost: has removed 1 russian_paraBoost owned by Russians in Ethiopia Non Combat Move EDIT: Trigger RussiansParaBoost atEthiopia: Russians has 1 russian_paraBoost placed in Ethiopia EDIT: Removing units owned by British from United Kingdom: 1 HomeDefense EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 2 aaGuns moved from Belarus to Novgorod 1 elite moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland 1 1stPanzerArmy, 1 ElitePanzer, 1 German_Engineer and 2 armour moved from Belarus to Western Ukraine 1 Escort moved from 96 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Holland Belgium 1 tactical_bomber moved from United Kingdom to Holland Belgium Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 110 Sea Zone: 1 GAirCommanderTac, 2 GfighterAFs and 1 Gtactical_bomberAF EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to France: 1 1stLuftflotten EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 3 bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 fighter and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to France 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium 1 Elitewaffen_panzer moved from Germany to Holland Belgium 1 aaGun moved from Southern France to France 5 infantry moved from Southern France to France 1 elite moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 3 infantry moved from Northern Italy to France 4 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium Germans undo move 13. 1 elite moved from France to Southern France 1 elite moved from Western Germany to France 1 Europe_Rail and 1 elite moved from Germany to Holland Belgium 1 german_para moved from Germany to Holland Belgium 1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to France 1 G_Rail moved from Germany to Romania 1 G_Rail and 1 aaGun moved from Romania to Southern Italy 1 G_air_transport and 1 infantry moved from Norway to Holland Belgium 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveGermansItalyTakeover: has removed 1 Europe_Rail owned by Germans in Holland Belgium Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveGermans: has removed 1 G_Rail owned by Germans in Germany Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveGermans: has removed 1 G_Rail owned by Germans in Southern Italy Trigger Urals Tank Unit: Russians has 1 armour placed in Urals Trigger SubPenLate43Place: Germans has 1 SubPen placed in Western Germany Setting uses for triggers used this phase. Cleaning up during movement phase Place Units 1 PanzerJagerFS and 1 elite placed in Germany 3 infantry placed in France 3 infantry placed in Southern France 3 infantry placed in Southern Italy 3 infantry placed in Western Germany 4 infantry placed in Northern Italy Turn Complete Trigger ParaBoost atUkraine: Germans has 1 german_paraBoost placed in Ukraine Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0 Germans collect 74 PUs; end with 146 PUs Trigger Germans AdvancedProduction: Germans met a national objective for an additional 12 Optional[PUs]; end with 158 Optional[PUs] Trigger Germans ReceiveItaliansRomanEmpireObjective: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 Optional[PUs]; end with 163 Optional[PUs] Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 Optional[PUs]; end with 168 Optional[PUs] Trigger Germans ReceiveItaliansAdvancedProduction: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 Optional[PUs]; end with 171 Optional[PUs] Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 176 PUs -
Hello Sir,
Over the past few days, the Allied commanders have been racking their brains over the current situation. The carefully planned and cold-bloodedly executed surprise attack on the United Kingdom has brought the King—and thus the Allied forces—to their knees.
Congratulations on a magnificent victory and thank you for a fantastic game.
I’m happy to be available for Round 3 anytime!BR
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Congratulations to Alexander ! I believe this is your first EXP victory ? I will update the spreadsheet.
I suggest you guys also update to 2.56 for your next match. A-Bomb and 2.57 is a ways out yet. I have it figured out how to do it ( the hard part )
just gotta get it dialed in turn wise and targeted TTys.Extended Victory Conditions aren't done either but they are basically all Player Enforced. Just gonna make a Map Option for clarity and explain in game Notes how it works.
Few other minor things to do as well
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@Panzerstahl-Helm-0 Thank you!!! As much as I would like to claim it as strategic brilliance, it was mostly a lucky opening with the take over of Italy really allowing me to make quick work of the home fleet. The Naval battle was something I was hoping for but did not anticipate going so well to risk a sea lion too
Good game! ...and fun photo
Sure, I'll have to look at the GitHub for the updated version then. Which side do you want to play next?
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