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    • G Offline
      GREGOREK @GREGOREK
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      NeanderthalMap.png

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      • RogerCooperR Offline
        RogerCooper @GREGOREK
        last edited by

        @GREGOREK If you want territories that wraparound, you could treat them like archipelagos like Kyushu and Honshu on almost any map.

        I am interested in automatic generation software you have.

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          TheDog @GREGOREK
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          @GREGOREK said:

          How do I define the points in the 'polygons.txt' file?

          You dont.

          Also there are no negative coordinates, the map is treated as if no wrap around existed, except for below.

          The wrap around map edges will share a vertical map line, one to the left one to right.
          You then need to stitch the wrap around TT/SZ manually together with connections in the xml like so;
          <connection t1="Chihuahua-Durango" t2="Mexico City"/>
          <connection t1="Acapulco-Chiapas" t2="Sinaloa-Guadalajara"/>
          <connection t1="064 Sea Zone" t2="011 Sea Zone"/>
          <connection t1="064 Sea Zone" t2="028 Sea Zone"/>

          In map.properties this must be true
          map.scrollWrapX=true

          That should work.

          https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
          https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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            GREGOREK
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            <connection...> just facilitates the movement between separate territories.

            Is there a way to declare two separate territories and then join them so the game treats them as a single territory?

            This would get around the hard map borders limiting wrapped territory definitions, and getting rid of the ugly common vertical/horizontal map border lines.

            For example a territory defined overlapping the top-left corner would get defined as four separate territories to fall completely within the map borders. Then a [join command] stitches the pieces back together making a truly seamless fully wrapped map.

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            • TheDogT Online
              TheDog @GREGOREK
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              @GREGOREK

              Is there a way to declare two separate territories and then join them so the game treats them as a single territory?

              I don't think that is possible. Its the vertical/horizontal map border lines or no wrapping.
              Maybe someone else can help?

              https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
              https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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              • RogerCooperR Offline
                RogerCooper @TheDog
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                @TheDog You can't do it in the xml file. You need to do it in polygons.txt. Here is New Zealand in World War II v3.

                New Zealand < (3234,1789) (3234,1789) (3235,1788) (3235,1787) (3236,1786) (3238,1786) (3239,1787) (3239,1791) (3235,1795) (3235,1799) (3236,1800) (3236,1802) (3237,1803) (3238,1803) (3240,1805) (3240,1806) (3242,1806) (3242,1805) (3243,1804) (3248,1804) (3249,1805) (3249,1806) (3251,1808) (3251,1809) (3249,1811) (3249,1813) (3251,1813) (3252,1814) (3256,1814) (3260,1810) (3261,1810) (3262,1811) (3265,1811) (3266,1812) (3266,1817) (3265,1818) (3265,1819) (3264,1820) (3264,1828) (3263,1829) (3219,1829) (3218,1828) (3218,1825) (3219,1824) (3219,1822) (3222,1819) (3222,1803) (3224,1801) (3224,1798) (3226,1796) (3226,1795) (3227,1794) (3229,1794) (3230,1793) (3230,1792) (3231,1791) (3232,1791) (3232,1790) (3233,1789) > < (3289,1698) (3290,1698) (3290,1693) (3288,1691) (3289,1690) (3292,1690) (3293,1691) (3294,1691) (3297,1694) (3298,1694) (3299,1695) (3299,1704) (3300,1705) (3300,1707) (3301,1708) (3302,1708) (3305,1711) (3306,1711) (3308,1713) (3309,1713) (3310,1712) (3313,1712) (3315,1710) (3328,1710) (3330,1712) (3330,1713) (3331,1714) (3331,1719) (3330,1720) (3330,1721) (3329,1722) (3329,1723) (3326,1726) (3325,1726) (3322,1729) (3322,1730) (3321,1731) (3321,1737) (3319,1739) (3319,1742) (3318,1743) (3318,1744) (3317,1745) (3317,1748) (3316,1749) (3315,1749) (3314,1750) (3313,1750) (3312,1751) (3311,1751) (3310,1752) (3309,1752) (3308,1753) (3308,1754) (3307,1755) (3307,1756) (3305,1758) (3304,1758) (3304,1759) (3302,1761) (3302,1780) (3301,1781) (3301,1791) (3298,1794) (3298,1795) (3297,1796) (3296,1796) (3296,1797) (3295,1798) (3295,1811) (3294,1812) (3294,1817) (3292,1819) (3291,1819) (3290,1820) (3289,1820) (3288,1821) (3284,1821) (3283,1820) (3283,1816) (3282,1815) (3280,1815) (3277,1812) (3277,1810) (3276,1810) (3272,1806) (3272,1801) (3273,1800) (3273,1799) (3275,1797) (3275,1795) (3277,1793) (3277,1792) (3278,1791) (3278,1789) (3274,1785) (3274,1783) (3272,1781) (3271,1781) (3269,1779) (3262,1779) (3261,1778) (3260,1778) (3259,1777) (3256,1777) (3255,1776) (3253,1776) (3252,1775) (3251,1775) (3248,1772) (3248,1767) (3249,1766) (3249,1765) (3251,1763) (3252,1763) (3253,1762) (3254,1762) (3254,1760) (3255,1759) (3256,1759) (3261,1754) (3261,1750) (3262,1749) (3262,1748) (3263,1747) (3263,1745) (3264,1744) (3264,1741) (3266,1739) (3266,1738) (3267,1737) (3267,1714) (3266,1713) (3266,1712) (3264,1710) (3264,1709) (3263,1708) (3263,1698) (3262,1697) (3262,1694) (3261,1693) (3261,1692) (3260,1691) (3260,1690) (3259,1689) (3259,1688) (3258,1687) (3258,1685) (3255,1682) (3255,1674) (3252,1671) (3252,1670) (3251,1670) (3249,1668) (3249,1667) (3245,1663) (3245,1662) (3240,1657) (3240,1649) (3239,1648) (3238,1648) (3237,1647) (3236,1647) (3235,1646) (3235,1645) (3233,1643) (3233,1637) (3235,1635) (3237,1635) (3238,1636) (3239,1636) (3240,1637) (3240,1640) (3242,1642) (3250,1642) (3255,1647) (3255,1648) (3258,1651) (3258,1652) (3259,1652) (3266,1659) (3266,1661) (3267,1662) (3267,1663) (3269,1665) (3269,1666) (3271,1668) (3271,1671) (3273,1673) (3273,1674) (3274,1675) (3274,1677) (3276,1679) (3278,1679) (3279,1680) (3279,1682) (3280,1683) (3280,1694) (3281,1695) (3282,1695) (3283,1696) (3283,1697) (3284,1697) (3285,1698) > < (3172,1599) (3172,1599) (3173,1600) (3174,1600) (3180,1606) (3180,1607) (3181,1608) (3182,1608) (3183,1609) (3183,1610) (3185,1612) (3186,1612) (3187,1613) (3189,1613) (3191,1615) (3191,1619) (3189,1621) (3188,1621) (3187,1620) (3185,1620) (3184,1619) (3182,1619) (3180,1617) (3178,1617) (3177,1616) (3175,1616) (3173,1614) (3172,1614) (3170,1612) (3169,1612) (3168,1611) (3168,1610) (3167,1610) (3166,1609) (3165,1609) (3163,1607) (3163,1604) (3162,1603) (3161,1603) (3159,1601) (3157,1601) (3153,1597) (3153,1596) (3157,1592) (3158,1592) (3159,1593) (3161,1593) (3162,1594) (3163,1594) (3165,1596) (3166,1596) (3167,1597) (3168,1597) (3169,1598) (3171,1598) > < (3219,1581) (3220,1581) (3221,1582) (3224,1582) (3228,1586) (3228,1592) (3229,1593) (3229,1594) (3230,1595) (3230,1597) (3229,1598) (3226,1598) (3224,1596) (3223,1596) (3222,1595) (3221,1595) (3220,1594) (3219,1594) (3218,1593) (3218,1592) (3214,1588) (3213,1588) (3212,1587) (3210,1587) (3209,1586) (3209,1578) (3210,1577) (3211,1577) (3212,1576) (3213,1576) (3216,1579) (3216,1580) (3217,1580) (3218,1581) > < (3219,1566) (3223,1566) (3224,1567) (3227,1567) (3228,1568) (3228,1570) (3224,1574) (3222,1574) (3221,1575) (3218,1575) (3214,1571) (3214,1569) (3215,1568) (3216,1568) (3217,1567) (3218,1567) > < (3224,1555) (3226,1555) (3229,1558) (3229,1562) (3228,1563) (3223,1563) (3220,1560) (3220,1558) (3222,1556) (3223,1556) > < (3230,1538) (3230,1538) (3232,1540) (3232,1546) (3231,1547) (3231,1548) (3230,1549) (3230,1550) (3229,1551) (3228,1551) (3226,1553) (3222,1553) (3221,1552) (3221,1551) (3220,1550) (3220,1547) (3222,1545) (3222,1543) (3224,1541) (3224,1537) (3225,1536) (3228,1536) > < (3288,1573) (3289,1573) (3291,1575) (3291,1578) (3288,1581) (3288,1582) (3287,1583) (3284,1583) (3280,1587) (3277,1587) (3276,1586) (3276,1583) (3282,1577) (3282,1576) (3285,1573) > < (3279,1592) (3279,1592) (3279,1591) (3280,1590) (3285,1590) (3289,1594) (3289,1597) (3285,1601) (3283,1601) (3281,1603) (3280,1603) (3280,1604) (3279,1605) (3273,1605) (3272,1604) (3270,1604) (3266,1600) (3266,1599) (3265,1598) (3265,1592) (3266,1591) (3272,1591) (3274,1593) (3277,1593) (3278,1592) >

                Note the angle brackets define each particular section.

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                • G Offline
                  GREGOREK @RogerCooper
                  last edited by

                  @RogerCooper THANK YOU

                  The polygons.txt defines the separate zones to get player-colored (will have a single pixel black border), and the overlay reliefTiles can hide that hard edge border to give the appearance of fully wrapped irregular territories.

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                  • G Offline
                    GREGOREK
                    last edited by

                    Frustration mounting. Carved up territories where they overlap map boundaries. All looking good with a few exceptions. The problem is no reliefTiles displaying. So, I purged the territory boundaries and just registered squares for each around centers. Just to get them out of the discussion, should an error there have some impact on the display not using the reliefTiles. All defined exactly like Jurassic, et al. Very simple map.properties file with a single player (alone) and game unit (nobody). The scroll works but no baseTiles or reliefTiles. All folders present and unzipped in downloadedMaps folder to get better debugging messages.

                    color.alone=ff9f40
                    color.Neutral=333333
                    color.Impassable=000000
                    units.scale=1.00
                    map.hasRelief=true
                    map.scrollWrapX=true
                    map.scrollWrapY=true
                    map.showCapitolMarkers=false
                    map.width=5120
                    map.height=5120
                    

                    Note: If neanderthal is zipped in the downloadedMaps folder then I get an error polygons.txt cannot be found, even though it's in the map folder. Extract the zip in place and error goes away. I've basically cloned jurassic to make neanderthal. It has to be something simple overlooked. Any insights?

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                    • G Offline
                      GREGOREK @GREGOREK
                      last edited by

                      neanderthal.png

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                      • TheDogT Online
                        TheDog @GREGOREK
                        last edited by

                        @GREGOREK
                        Just checking you have View> Show Map Details TICKED

                        https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
                        https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                        • G Offline
                          GREGOREK @TheDog
                          last edited by

                          @TheDog
                          it's checked and debug console empty.
                          I ordered a Ouija board from Amazon.

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                          • G Offline
                            GREGOREK
                            last edited by

                            This is irritating.

                            I turned off the surrounding territories by replacing their boundary with a simple square. Then did all, except for the two offending cells. Removed duplicate pixels in other loops. Reduced all cells by averaging every three pixels (with an integer snap) to get rid of 'staircases'. Same Result.

                            borderTestLc.png borderTestLnc.png

                            Dumped their data into a separate display. Look fine. Bright light, crosses, I dont know what else to try. Note: these loops are the first in each of the associated territory's polygons.txt definition. One houses its territory center. The other does not. Doesnt seem to matter.

                            The reliefTiles also continue to annoy. Sparse forum posts on the subject. I'm going to try finding TripleA cache files with Neanderthal in the name and deleting them. Maybe some legacy data preventing their display.

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                              GREGOREK @GREGOREK
                              last edited by

                              reliefTiles are now displaying.
                              I have once again brought shame to my family.

                              still have the two territories not displaying all their parts as posted above.

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                                GREGOREK
                                last edited by

                                Here's an interesting wrinkle. I have a memory fault. something I've done or omitted, is trashing memory.

                                neanderthal.png

                                I associated a territory with one of the players simply to mark it in the game, and suddenly a working territory cannot find the forest factory image which is used everywhere.

                                neanderthalNull.png

                                The gray box is the new anomaly. All forest territories have an invisible 16x16 factory. Nothing special about this one. Defined exactly like all the others. This error does not happen when the larger polygon loop described above is not assigned a player owner.

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                                  TheDog @GREGOREK
                                  last edited by

                                  @GREGOREK
                                  These version will ignore the missing image and then tell you which image is missing.

                                  2.7.15256
                                  ▪ Technology tab split from players tab on to its own tab. (Really good for 1888a & Total World War as they have lots of Tech)
                                  ▪ Shows any map missing icons as a placeholder square icon.
                                  ▪ Shows on status bar the relationship(war, neutral, allied) of territories (Really good in FFA maps)
                                  https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases/tag/2.7.15256

                                  and
                                  https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases/tag/2.7.15570

                                  So upgrade.

                                  https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
                                  https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                                    GREGOREK @TheDog
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                                    @TheDog
                                    Upgraded to latest. Now experiencing squint font with no way to change it. (?)
                                    Problems persist. Factory Image is loaded and used everywhere. XML is script generated so any typo would appear everywhere.
                                    Getting new error behaviors by simply adding owner to a territory suggests memory trashing somewhere.
                                    I probably gutted too much out of Jurassic to make a bare-bones XML. Jurassic works with no change to management image files like factories. All carried over to Neanderthal.
                                    I suspect a missing initializer in the XML.
                                    Thanks for the help. I'll keep digging.

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                                      GREGOREK @GREGOREK
                                      last edited by

                                      Note: in this latest version, I dont see the debug window. Latest screen error:

                                      NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "java.awt.image.BufferedImage.getWidth(java.awt.image.ImageObserver)" because "fromFile" is null
                                      

                                      Who is this 'Observer'? and are they watching me now?!

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                                        TheDog @GREGOREK
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                                        @GREGOREK
                                        Just checking you know about triplea.log
                                        It is located here
                                        C:\Users\%USERNAME%\triplea

                                        The console looks very similar to triplea.log

                                        https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
                                        https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                                          wc_sumpton @GREGOREK
                                          last edited by

                                          @GREGOREK said:

                                          Who is this 'Observer'?

                                          👆

                                          Cheers...

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                                            TheDog @wc_sumpton
                                            last edited by

                                            I will guess this maybe the Observer
                                            c5111d2d-4415-49d4-afe8-9f9966fc7ac9-image.jpeg

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                                            https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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