Qualifier for Wiking-Con 2027 - Game No. 1
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@beelee Okay, got it. That seems to be way too complicated to automate in Triple A. Believe hand rolling and edit will be the way to go for it. Yes, good idea to defer to Game 2, etc. as that changes the whole production planning for Germany starting around Turn 4 or 5.
I think this is another one of those House Rules for game play purposes. Believe that during the war, there was very little intelligence about how the other side was progressing with regards to A-Bomb research or where it was taking place - let alone how/where to bomb it. Even V1/V2 intel was not very good but the Allies did have some levels of intel for that.
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Yea what I'll do for triplea is have each level be able to be bombed 10 more each time, so it'll still just have the one token. Right now you can't bomb them. Sadly there's no way to turn of the AA for Infrastructure so it'll be same as a Hvy Bmbr getting shot down.
Also, the Attacker has to declare what it's bombing, so if he sends two Bmbrs at 2 different levels, then the Interceptors can be vectored to each one. Triplea just rolls them all at once. I'll make a request for Victory. I have a couple others but I just like to do one at a time with him.
Actually it should benefit the Allies the most. It will require the Luftwaffe to defend Berlin. Hvys can reach from London. Highly unlikely Washington gets bombed at all.
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Here's another clarification/update
So basically Gotta keep some Ftrs in Berlin, which is Historical and nobody is gonna get bombed
On second thought, Allies can get Escorts from Norway or 112, so it's not completely unfeasible. Haven't seen it in a long time but the Allies used to focus there quite a bit.
Have to neuter Italy first or they get too big it seems. Idk. We need more Players
Oh yea, I forgot to blitz in and back to Libya, hence the edit.
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Reading it again, so levels 1-4 can be bombed anytime they're on the board. Once level 5 is achieved, they can't be bombed anymore. You just need to repair any damage done to them before you can start producing A-Bombs.So you can still buy a new level even if your previous one is damaged ? Hmm ... I guess I better ask that too lol
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@beelee Agree thatβs the net effect. Will be interesting to find out how the Danish Mafia addresses A-Bomb. Cap keeps insisting the game is determined after 10 or less turns. If so, then when our champion plays them, he should not see any A-Bomb research being conducted
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@beelee No fighter escorts can reach so theoretically 3-4 Luftwaffe should be enough cover but thatβs still money that could have gone elsewhere
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Wow I'm not getting notifications from you when you post. Anyway, I edited a couple above ones.
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Yea but I like the fact that Berlin needs to be defended. It's Historical and slows the Reich a bit, although they need an AB there to launch the A-Bomb anyway.
London gonna take a beating lol
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So with an AB you can still hit NORM and shuck the W GER ones to BerlinEdit 2
Yea no point in going to London. The Reich will just Bomb it and UK can't fix it before the Yanks go. Have to be NORM or S Italy most likely.Idk looks as if it's gonna be a lot easier for the Reich to bomb London and Moscow than for Uncle Sam to hit Tokyo and Berlin.
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@beelee I think it would be good to start talking about this a bit now so that I fully understand when the bombs start dropping. For the London example, I believe how it would play out is:
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If I attack the Industrial Area, the only thing that happens is 20 damage points to the factory (assuming Underground), lose heavy industry upgrade (so costs 3 to restore that), 6 damage points for naval base, 6 damage points to airbase. So UK could stay upright if they just spend $20 for repairs each turn. Attacking the front line would require a Sea Lion so assume that can be defended without too much trouble.
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Same for Moscow except a $20 hit is alot for them.
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So I think it's not an instant death, just a devastating punch. Do I have that right??
But you are correct that USA would need to attack Berlin from a US territory since G could bomb a UK territory such as London and then the airbase could not be repaired until after the USA turn is finished.
Am I missing anything here??
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OK I think I got the final word on it
I'll have to check on the Damage. I can't remember.
Yep I think you got it. Just have to remember can only move 4 and any other Planes using that AB don't get the Bonus.
So Tokyo and London can both be hit RD 12 and Berlin Moscow Rd 13. Germany only has 2 Bmbrs but the Americans logistic train is longer so I can see why he did it the way he did but I still think it'll be easier for the Reich.
Maybe that's why he made the Research levels bombable to balance it out a bit because Yanks ain't getting bombed
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@beelee Game History
Round: 7 Purchase Units - Japanese Trigger JapaneseTotalWarArty: buyTotalWar_Arty added to productionJapanese Trigger JapaneseTotalWarMechInf: buyTotalWarMechInf added to productionJapanese Trigger JapaneseTotalWarAirTrprt: buyTotalWarAirTrprt added to productionJapanese Trigger JapaneseTotalWarTank: buyTotalWar_Tank added to productionJapanese Trigger JapaneseTotalWarInf: buyTotalWar_Inf added to productionJapanese Trigger JapaneseTotalWarNavyFighter: buyTotalWarNavyFtr added to productionJapanese Trigger JapaneseTotalWar Bomber: buyTotalWar_Bomber added to productionJapanese Trigger JapaneseTotalWarTacBmbr: buyTotalWarTacBmbr added to productionJapanese Trigger JapaneseTotalWarFighter: buyTotalWarFighter added to productionJapanese Japanese buy 4 TotalWarAirTrprts, 4 TotalWarNavyFtrs, 1 UndrgroundFctry, 1 carrier, 1 elite, 8 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Place Units - Japanese Units in Japan being upgraded or consumed: 1 factory_major 1 UndrgroundFctry placed in Japan Combat Move - Japanese Trigger Banzai: Japanese has 1 Banzai placed in Japan Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceJapanese: Japanese has 2 J_Rails placed in Kiangsu 1 Japan_destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone 1 JPNbomber moved from Japan to 16 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Kweichow to 37 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kweichow to 37 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry moved from Yunnan to Shan State 1 mech_infantry moved from Shan State to Burma 1 fighter moved from Kweichow to Burma 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kweichow to Burma 1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea 1 JPNbomber moved from Kweichow to 37 Sea Zone 1 Japan_destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 45 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea 1 battleship moved from 35 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 35 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone 1 elite moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 elite and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 elite and 2 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo 1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Caroline Islands to 46 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to Borneo 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to Borneo 1 Heavy_BB moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 Heavy_BB moved from 35 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone Combat - Japanese Battle in 46 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber Americans defend with 1 Escort Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 46 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3,4,2 Americans roll dice for 1 Escort in 46 Sea Zone, round 2 : 6 Japanese win with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Americans: 1 Escort Battle in Borneo Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 elite, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Americans defend with 1 artillery and 1 marine Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Borneo, round 2 : 2,5 Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 elite, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Borneo, round 2 : 6,1,4,1,4,4,6 British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 marine in Borneo, round 2 : 6,4 Japanese win, taking Borneo from British with 1 artillery, 1 elite, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery and 1 marine Battle in 16 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 JPNbomber, 1 Japan_destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber Americans defend with 1 submarine Japanese roll dice for 1 JPNbomber, 1 Japan_destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 16 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4,4,3,4 Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 16 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2 Japanese win with 1 JPNbomber, 1 Japan_destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine Battle in 37 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 JPNbomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber Americans defend with 1 destroyer Japanese roll dice for 1 JPNbomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 37 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1,4,2 Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 37 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2 Japanese win with 1 JPNbomber and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2 Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer Battle in Burma Changer loiter and taunt; Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Changer defend; British defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Burma, round 2 : 6,3,1 British roll dice for 1 infantry in Burma, round 2 : 2 Japanese win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1 Casualties for Japanese: 1 mech_infantry Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in 42 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 Heavy_BB and 1 Japan_destroyer ANZAC defend with 1 cruiser and 1 transport Japanese roll dice for 1 Heavy_BB and 1 Japan_destroyer in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1,2,5 ANZAC roll dice for 1 cruiser and 1 transport in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1,4 Units damaged: 1 Heavy_BB owned by the Japanese Japanese win, taking 42 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 Heavy_BB and 1 Japan_destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 cruiser and 1 transport Battle in 45 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 Heavy_BB and 1 transport ANZAC defend with 1 Escort Japanese roll dice for 1 Heavy_BB and 1 transport in 45 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1,6 ANZAC roll dice for 1 Escort in 45 Sea Zone, round 2 : 6 Japanese win with 1 Heavy_BB and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 Escort Battle in Dutch New Guinea Changer loiter and taunt; Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Changer defend; ANZAC defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Dutch New Guinea, round 2 : 4,4,5,4 ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in Dutch New Guinea, round 2 : 5 Japanese win, taking Dutch New Guinea from ANZAC with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 95 Sea Zone Non Combat Move - Japanese Trigger RemoveBanzai: has removed 1 Banzai owned by Japanese in Japan Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone Trigger Wolfpack at95 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 95 Sea Zone Trigger Remove All JapaneseParaBoost: has removed 1 japanese_paraBoost owned by Japanese in Jehol Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveJapanese: has removed 2 J_Rails owned by Japanese in Shan State 1 carrier moved from 35 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 46 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 46 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 46 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 tactical_bomber moved from Dutch New Guinea to 45 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Dutch New Guinea to 45 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Borneo to 35 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Borneo to 35 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya 1 JPNbomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to Kweichow 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 1 J_Rail and 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Shan State 1 J_Rail moved from Kiangsu to Shantung 1 J_Rail and 1 infantry moved from Shantung to Shan State 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Shan State 2 armour moved from Kweichow to Shan State 1 mech_infantry moved from Shensi to Yunnan 1 japanese_para moved from Suiyuyan to Jehol 1 japanese_paraBoost moved from Suiyuyan to Jehol 1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kweichow to Yunnan 1 fighter moved from Kweichow to Yunnan 1 armour moved from Shantung to Kweichow 1 armour moved from Kiangsu to Kweichow 1 elite moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 elite, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines 1 elite moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines 1 air_transport and 1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to Java 1 tactical_bomber moved from 16 Sea Zone to Japan 1 fighter moved from 16 Sea Zone to Japan 1 JPNbomber moved from 16 Sea Zone to Japan 1 Escort_Convoy moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 2 air_transports and 2 infantry moved from Japan to Kweichow 1 tactical_bomber moved from Burma to Kweichow 1 fighter moved from Burma to Kweichow 2 Japan_Engineers moved from Korea to Jehol 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Korea to 6 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines Place Units - Japanese 4 TotalWarNavyFtrs and 1 carrier placed in 6 Sea Zone 4 TotalWarAirTrprts and 1 elite placed in Japan 1 infantry placed in Shantung 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Kiangsu 3 infantry placed in Korea 3 infantry placed in Japan Trigger JapaneseTotalWarNavyFighterPlaceJapan4: has removed 4 TotalWarNavyFtrs owned by Japanese in 6 Sea Zone Trigger JapaneseTotalWarAirTrprtPlaceJapan4: has removed 4 TotalWarAirTrprts owned by Japanese in Japan Trigger JapaneseTotalWarNavyFighterPlaceJapan4: Japanese has 4 NavyFighters placed in 6 Sea Zone Trigger JapaneseTotalWarAirTrprtPlaceJapan4: Japanese has 4 air_transports placed in Japan Turn Complete - Japanese Trigger Japanese RemoveConvoySZ6Invert: has removed 1 Escort owned by Japanese in 6 Sea Zone Trigger Japanese RemoveConvoySZ6Invert: Japanese has 1 Escort_Convoy placed in 6 Sea Zone Japanese collect 60 PUs; end with 61 PUs Trigger Japanese Controls DNG Pacific Expanded: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 2 Optional[PUs]; end with 63 Optional[PUs] Trigger Japan Loses Marianas: Japanese met a national objective for an additional -1 Optional[PUs]; end with 62 Optional[PUs] Trigger Japanese Controls Celebes Pacific Expanded: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 1 Optional[PUs]; end with 63 Optional[PUs] Trigger Japanese Controls Philippines Pacific Expanded: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 Optional[PUs]; end with 66 Optional[PUs] Trigger Japanese Controls Guam Pacific Expanded: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 1 Optional[PUs]; end with 67 Optional[PUs] Trigger Japanese AdvancedProduction: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 8 Optional[PUs]; end with 75 Optional[PUs] Objective Japanese 5 Control China: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 80 PUs -
Hello from the middle of the night
Trying a test turn and triplea isn't giving me the option to retreat from the 95 SZ battle. I made a git issue and pinged Victory about it. I don't really remember this happening before but then sometimes it seems like it would rarely happen Idk.
I will test with the old engine version and see if it does it
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I went back to 15460 and got the same behavior. When I killed all the Ships first, it would then give me the option to retreat.So this musta been bugged for a while then. I found a similar issue that might be related that Victory has a fix in for but it's not accepted yet.
Well I'm probably just gonna go ahead and do it but if I get hammered for 1st rd I'll just let it play out and use edit to retreat the 1st rd survivors and replace any defender casualties.
It's a little risky and I haven't fully decided yet but ... I'm really tempted too
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