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    Power of Politics 1914 : A WWI scenario

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      Hepps Moderators @beelee
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      @beelee Is this enough (New) zeal for you?

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      "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
      Hepster

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        Cernel Moderators @Hepps
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        @Hepps I briefly checked Wiki on this, and, according to it, Camberra was not really a thing in WWI. The site was selected in 1908, but it actually started working as capital only in 1927 (1927 the parliament and 1930 the governor).

        I get that is not really meant to be Camberra, as the fact that it has a "city" territory effect has to mean that it is representing Sydney and Melbourne; but, if Australia has to have a city territory, probably better just to call it Melbourne, since it seems it is also all of Victoria (it can be left undefined if that would be actually just Melbourne or both Melbourne and Sydney together).

        I don't like "Power of Politics" as the game's name, but I'm abstaining on the vote, cause I don't know what.

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          Hepps Moderators
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          For those with a taste for the Russian nesting Dolls...

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          "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
          Hepster

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            Schulz
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            I see Austria starts without Galicia, Vojvodina and Northern Tyrol. Germany has no Alsace-Lorraine. What is the reason just wondering.

            BTW Dom 1914 had another issue imho which is Austria's tendency of becoming more powerful than Germany due to lame income distribution. A good WW1 map definitely shouldn't let this kind of results because games become extremely broken when Austrians (and sometimes even Ottomans) becomes stronger than Germany which was very common because Entente is easily able to rush Germany and ignore other fronts and in this case Entente wins always no matter how strong Austrians-Ottomans.

            First I really recommend making Western and Italian Fronts more valuable than Eastern front and making Baltics more valuable than Ukraine (Although very unrealistic but for balance/playability purpose).

            Going West-East or balanced manner should be equally good for Centrals. Both in Dom 1914 and Great war rushing east is definitely the best one and it makes maps predictable for me.

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              Hepps Moderators @Schulz
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              @Schulz Some of the cover image may not have been accurate to the starting set up of the actual map.

              The income distribution has changed significantly.

              Italy is neutral at the start of the game... where they end up or who's side they join for the players to determine.

              The rest you are just going to have to wait for.

              "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
              Hepster

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                Hepps Moderators
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                Just another little teaser...

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                "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                Hepster

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                  Hepps Moderators
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                  Another little snippet... Perhaps Moses can part the Red Sea... but the Ottomans... that's another story.

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                  "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                  Hepster

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                    Schulz
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                    Wouldn't getting Italy be game changer for both sides? Can a game be balanced with CP Italy and Entente Italy at the same time?

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                      Hepps Moderators @Schulz
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                      @Schulz Have you read my signature?

                      "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                      Hepster

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                        Hepps Moderators
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                        A look at the Malaysian Peninsula with all the finishing touches...

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                        "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                        Hepster

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                          Hepps Moderators
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                          Wee bit of an alteration to the seasonal display... added shadowed empty boxes to make it easier to distinguish which seasonal effects are in each territory.

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                          "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                          Hepster

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                            Hepps Moderators
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                            @redrum For your consideration...

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                            "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                            Hepster

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                              redrum Admin @Hepps
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                              @Hepps I dig it.

                              TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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                                Cernel Moderators @Hepps
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                                @Hepps Maybe you want to consult a period atlas for the cities population, to decide what is getting the urban terrain? Like Tsaritsyn was really a minor city, while Kiev was a very big one, if I recall correctly. Also, I cannot recall the "Tcherniov" name, if it is not a different way to spell "Chernigov" (I guess not, since they are both there).

                                I think "Politics of Power" would be better than "Power of Politics".

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                                  beelee @Cernel
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                                  @Cernel said in Power of Politics 1914 : A WWI scenario:

                                  @Hepps
                                  I think "Politics of Power" would be better than "Power of Politics".

                                  Fwiw I agree. Maybe something really dynamic will still pop up : )

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                                    Hepps Moderators @Cernel
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                                    @Cernel said in Power of Politics 1914 : A WWI scenario:

                                    @Hepps Maybe you want to consult a period atlas for the cities population, to decide what is getting the urban terrain? Like Tsaritsyn was really a minor city, while Kiev was a very big one, if I recall correctly.

                                    Not all of the selections are done based on historical significance or accuracy. Sometimes game-play will take the front seat to an adherence to accuracy. Tsaritsyn is better positioned to help out the Tsarist Russian cause by being better positioned as a fall back place to combat Central aggression rather than increasing Kiev's significance in the game. I chose to lump the more significant production capacity in with Odessa as the region contained the naval production for Russia along with the city of Mykolaiv.

                                    Also, I cannot recall the "Tcherniov" name, if it is not a different way to spell "Chernigov" (I guess not, since they are both there).

                                    No idea... I put it out to the community and this is what I got back.

                                    I think "Politics of Power" would be better than "Power of Politics".

                                    I like both!

                                    "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                    Hepster

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                                      Cernel Moderators @Hepps
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                                      @Hepps Ok, but I can easily see a number of people asking themselves "Why is Kiev not a city?".

                                      Anyways, in case it may be helpful, here are all the cities with 100,000 people or more in the Russian Empire (according to a 1920 atlas of mine) for 1913, except 1915 for Petrograd, 1916 for Moscow, and 1914 or 1910 of some other cities, in thousands:

                                      Europe:
                                      Petrograd: 2,319
                                      Moscow: 1,817
                                      Warsaw: 789
                                      Odessa: 631
                                      Kiev: 626
                                      Riga: 569
                                      Lodz: 416
                                      Kharkov: 258
                                      Saratov: 236
                                      Yekaterinoslav: 220
                                      Rostov: 205
                                      Vilnius: 204
                                      Kazan: 195
                                      Ivanovo-Suessensk: 168
                                      Astrakhan: 164
                                      Orenburg: 147
                                      Samara: 144
                                      Tula: 141
                                      Reval: 138
                                      Kishinev: 129
                                      Yaroslavl: 120
                                      Minsk: 118
                                      N.Novgorod: 112
                                      Dvinsk: 111
                                      Vitebsk: 109
                                      Nikolayev: 106
                                      Ufa: 106
                                      Perm: 105
                                      Goumel: 105
                                      Tsaritsyn: 101
                                      Asia:
                                      Tiflis: 328
                                      Tashkent: 272
                                      Baku: 237
                                      Omsk: 136
                                      Irkutsk: 130
                                      Saliany: 121
                                      Kokand: 119
                                      Tomsk: 117
                                      Yekaterinodar: 107

                                      (I don't recognize Saliany)

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                                        Hepps Moderators @Cernel
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                                        @Cernel I'm just not sure that population data alone is a measure of a cities signifinance... unless you are utilizing a separate resource such as manpower.

                                        While I get your complaint regarding Kiev... I am less worried about how many people will have a decidedly unfavorable reaction versus my decision to make Odessa the powerful territory in the region to support naval production as a counter measure to swift Ottoman dominance. While also forcing the territory to do double duty vs the German and Austro pressure.

                                        Perhaps if Kievians? Kievinites? Kievisarians? start spamming the thread en-mass... I will reconsider my position.

                                        "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                        Hepster

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                                          Cernel Moderators @Hepps
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                                          @Hepps Ah, also, not sure if the ownerships definitions are waiting for the release, but for that portion all is good except Lviv, or rather Leopolis or Lemberg, that should be part of Austria-Hungary. Also this way the borders would look more like the historical shape, since Russian Poland was bulgy like that, and Lviv seems to clearly capture the Galician border with Russia. This would require changing the name of Galicia to something else, tho.

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                                            Schulz
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                                            Did you value Ottoman territories if yes can I see a screenshot?

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