AI Interesting Moves and Points of Improvement on Revised

[redrum]

@Alexei-Svitkine I'll have to look a bit closer at the overall game.

Here is a PR to address the weird buying cavalry instead of stronger units when its capital is about to fall: https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/pull/5505

[redrum]

@Alexei-Svitkine I glanced over the game as a whole and actually the thing that jumps out most is that the Austrians played very poorly (I'd say more so than Germany or Ottos). They often weren't spending their PUs, lost control of Istria area, didn't help Germany much with Russia or Italy, etc. Really their only good play is taking out Petrograd (which was actually kind of lucky and poor play by the Russians). This then causes Germany to have to spend a lot of PUs to help defend Austria and deal with Russia which left it very little for the western front where it just gets overwhelmed by France/UK. It also takes the CPs way too long to take out Russia and by the time they do, Allies have just too much of a sheer numerical advantage.

Yeah, the AI right now prioritizes using too many cheap units for attacks (inf) and should balance this more with high attack units (art). This is a difficult problem to solve across all maps and all unit sets which is why the AI tends to overly prefer using cheap units.

[Alexei Svitkine]

@redrum said in AI Interesting Moves and Points of Improvement on Revised:

@Alexei-Svitkine I glanced over the game as a whole and actually the thing that jumps out most is that the Austrians played very poorly (I'd say more so than Germany or Ottos). They often weren't spending their PUs, lost control of Istria area, didn't help Germany much with Russia or Italy, etc. Really their only good play is taking out Petrograd (which was actually kind of lucky and poor play by the Russians). This then causes Germany to have to spend a lot of PUs to help defend Austria and deal with Russia which left it very little for the western front where it just gets overwhelmed by France/UK. It also takes the CPs way too long to take out Russia and by the time they do, Allies have just too much of a sheer numerical advantage.

Yeah, the AI right now prioritizes using too many cheap units for attacks (inf) and should balance this more with high attack units (art). This is a difficult problem to solve across all maps and all unit sets which is why the AI tends to overly prefer using cheap units.

I agree that Austria played poorly that game. Austria and Italy typically have a stale mate, holding a neighbouring territory each and exchanging control of another each turn. Austria wasn't quick enough at the start of the game to move that border into Italy and so the game of tag was in Austria's borders, which was awful for it.

Having said that, I think until Russia gets defeated, Germany has a lot of trouble figuring out what to do with its big forces. Often, they hang around in Warsaw or elsewhere in the middle of its territory (I'm talking 40-100 guys) - not contributing to either front.

I have another save game with the same scenario where Central powers do better, but again similar blunders by the AI are observed.
Nov17_GreatWar_Try2.tsvg

In this new save game, here are some issues:

Round 17:
At this point, Russia's fall is imminent.
Germany moves units from East Prussia to Lodz (towards Russia), even though they're not needed there. It should be moving towards the western front, since Russia will be eliminated by Austria by the time these units can actually threaten Russia.
Germany also moves lots of units to Kiev, again which are not needed there.
Please note that at this point, Western front desperately needs help and Germany is losing Hanover each turn and has to retake it, so moving their big force away from there is a bad move.
They leave Konigsberg undefended - which lets a transport land a unit there and capture it that round. Sure, they can kill on the counterattack, but it's better to just leave one or two units there to prevent this.

Round 18:
Germany decides to move back from Lodz to Silesia - basically undoing the move it did last time - it could have been ahead instead.
Germany also sends its large force from Kiev to Crimea, which is not useful there. I believe it's trying to amass a secondary force next to Russia to threaten it, but given that Austria really does not need help there and the fact that Germany is having troubles elsewhere, it really shouldn't be doing this.

Italy tries to take back its capital. It's desperate. It attacks with a percent chance to win of 38%. However, it just forgets an artillery that could have participated that would have raised the chance to 53%.

Round 20:
Germany builds a factory in Serbia. This doesn't seem useful as its focus should still be on the western front and it doesn't need a factory there.
Later it will use this factory to send some units to help in Italy, but really it's just not needed. Germany already has two factories neighbouring Serbia - in Greece and Bulgaria.

Round 21:
British take East Prussia and Konigsberg from Germany who again fails to leave a token force behind - just leaving them completely empty and then having to retake them back next turn.

I have to check my notes, I might have other things I've observed in this playthrough, but these are from the most recent session.

EDIT:

Here are some more from earlier turns:

Round 5:
Germany has 8 subs in Sea Zone 10 near US navy. They decide to move (non combat) to Sea Zone 6. However, in the process (if they did as a combat move), they could have taken the Sea Zone 7 convoy center from the French.

Round 7:
Germany has a good force near Bar-le-Duc and could easily defend it. It's a factory on the western front - so a very good thing to keep. (Sure they can retake next turn, but that means they can't build units there.)
Instead, they abandon it.
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[Captain Crunch]

glossing over your conversations it reminds me the curious observation I made about the AI years ago I said to redrum that when playing the WWIIClassic map I thought the AI bought too many Artillery and not enough cheaper Infantry yet in this thread conversation perhaps the AI needs to purchase the more expensive Artillery type units ... as redrum just mentioned so it shows you how fickle the "probability of victory" percent roll is when trying to set the algorithm just right (requires many trials amiright)

[redrum]

@Alexei-Svitkine Responses:

Round 17:
I agree that at this point, its clear to a human that Turkey will be able to finish off Russia. The challenge is that is very difficult for the AI to determine especially multiple rounds ahead of when it will actually fall. Generally the AI looks at the current map situation and moves each unit towards what its believes is the closest and most valuable objective which in this case is Moscow still. Now I think round 19, it wouldn't be that difficult to see that Turkey will capture Moscow that turn so ignore it on Germany's turn but any turns before that its tough.

Round 18:
Germany decides to move back to Silesia because it lost the Cologne and Alsace factories and now thinks that is the new most important objective for those units. Unfortunately, it didn't realize it was gonna be double attacked and lose Cologne and its hard for the AI to simulate future turns. That being said Germany does appear to struggle with not moving its units away from Berlin and kind of dancing back and forth. I'll take a closer look at this.
So the AI tends to leave 1 unit in each territory to block blitzes. It obviously shouldn't do that here and some additional logic should be added to override blocking if that extra unit is really needed.

Round 20:
This is just a case of the AI not knowing what else to spend its extra PUs on after building land units in its factories that are relatively close to the enemy fronts (ignores Petrograd). You could argue its better off building some air units or naval units but its tough to balance when to buy air vs sea vs factories.

Round 21:
The Germans assumed that the Turks would leave a few units to defend East Prussia from that stack they have there. It doesn't really care about Konigsberg since it can just counter attack to take it back.

Round 5:
Yeah, the AI doesn't currently consider multiple paths to a territory.

Round 7:
There is an actual bug here. The AI ends up being overly cautious around defending some territories due to some randomness in its calcs. It should definitely defend Bar-le-Duc and a number of other territories that it doesn't this turn.

[redrum]

@Alexei-Svitkine Here is a PR to fix the round 7 example: https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/pull/5559

[LaFayette]

Here's an interesting one, round 56, AI not wanting to capture Germany:

ai.tsvg.zip

[redrum]

@Alexei-Svitkine I also reviewed the AI not moving away from its capital area and there was an issue in capital land superiority checks causing it to abort moving units away from its capital. PR to improve that: https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/pull/5562

This potentially will make a major improvement in the German AI on Great War.

@LaFayette That definitely looks bad and I imagine the UK should have captured Germany probably 10 turns ago. I'll try to take a look tomorrow.

[LaFayette]

Ah, belay that @redrum ; I had a buggy version. I was noticing the AI was not sending enough units in to attack. So AI was building up but could never close the deal

It was pretty interesting to see the borders had shifted quite a bit nonetheless.

[redrum]

@LaFayette Ok. That's a relief as if the AI doesn't attack in that situation, I was pretty worried that there was a major issue.

[Captain Crunch]

@redrum the AI Improve Defend Territory Check. That sounds like a vague check. Is that a number in 1 stat that you slightly increased or decreased? Is it named Defend Territory Check?

EDIT: Ok, I see another page of this thread after I posted that and you made another bug fix for Capitol Defense Check ... again, is that just 1 number you increased or lowered?

Basically I'm asking if you tweeked both the AI's Defend Territory function and the AI's Capitol Defense function by just changing 1 value for each?

right?

Does those 2 bug fixes effect the AI for WWIIClassic map?

[redrum]

@Captain-Crunch Both updates are a bit more than just tweaking a value:

• Improve Defend Territory Check - Sometimes the AI would add some units to try to defend a territory and when checking the result vs the result of not adding the units, it would decide not to defend it. Now the AI as long as it projects the defense to have a positive average TUV trade will add the units to defend it.
• Improve Capital Defense Check - The AI makes a land superiority check (allied vs enemy units within a certain range of its capital) and was only considering units that had already been moved and ignoring units that could still move causing it to often abort defenses. This now makes it consider the max units it could move to nearby territories and then remove units that have moved away from it for other defenses already.

Both of these improvements impact all maps including Classic though I'd say they probably have a bigger impact on larger maps like Great War. In particular, if you saw cases that the AI didn't move its units forward in noncombat move were it could defend, these 2 changes should hopefully fix those cases.

[Captain Crunch]

@redrum you rock! I really thought your tweek was going to be much simpler so thank-you for that excellent reply which helps me understand the game programming a bit better and also thank-you for telling me it effects all map AI's so it looks like I'm due to submit another couple games against the AI on the WWIIClassic map ... I'm kinda busy doing some other stuff but I will get 2 wins vs the AI maybe for next weekend but, anyways, excellent reply and much appreciated

[Captain Crunch]

@redrum or anyone ... oh snap I downloaded the latest TripleA 2.0.16791 and I get an error that says "Could not use bundled JRE" and I don't want to uninstall my earlier version of TripleA which is 1.9.0.0.9867 incase after I try to get the new one to work and then the old one doesn't work ...

so I guess I have to update my Java but that might screw up my old computer running Windows XP so is there a way just to download and insert the new AI any other way?

Anyone have any ideas ... if I haveto wait for a new comp I will and it's no big deal waiting to play Axis and Allies again but is updating my Java the only way to play the new AI or is there a simple easy way to update the AI plleeasseeee

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[redrum]

@Captain-Crunch Do you get any additional details with the error? I'm not sure that the latest pre-release will run on Windows XP. You shouldn't have to update your Java as we are bundling Java with the pre-release download.

[Captain Crunch]

the error says to send the copy of some n_log file to my vendor ... here it is:

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[42:890] untaring JRE was successful
[42:906] JRE dir: C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp\e4jF.tmp_dir1574812439\jre
[42:906] LoadDLL (0, C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp\e4jF.tmp_dir1574812439\jre, 0)
[42:906] Got JRE location C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp\e4jF.tmp_dir1574812439\jre (java exe: 0)
[42:906] MinVersion: 11, MaxVersion:
[42:906] checkJavaExe (c:\documents and settings\owner\local settings\temp\e4jf.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\bin\java.exe, [out], 1, 0, 1)
[42:906] file exists
[42:906] tempPath is C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp
[42:906] tempFile is C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp\e4j10.tmp
[42:922] Could not create process c:\DOCUME~1\owner\LOCALS~1\temp\E4JF~1.TMP\jre\bin\java.exe -version > C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp\e4j10.tmp (error 193)
[42:922] couldn't get version
[42:922] checkJavaExe returning 0
[42:922] Trying to load JVM-DLL from c:\documents and settings\owner\local settings\temp\e4jf.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\bin\java.exe
[42:922] Setting PATH 259 c:\documents and settings\owner\local settings\temp\e4jf.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\bin;C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp\e4jF.tmp_dir1574812439\user;C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Oracle\Java\javapath;C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\PhysX\Common;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem
[42:922] Trying c:\documents and settings\owner\local settings\temp\e4jf.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\bin\client\jvm.dll (exists 1)
[43:0] Failed with error code 127
[43:0] Trying c:\documents and settings\owner\local settings\temp\e4jf.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\bin\server\jvm.dll (exists 1)
[43:47] Failed with error code 127
[43:47] Trying c:\documents and settings\owner\local settings\temp\e4jf.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\bin\j9vm\jvm.dll (exists 0)
[43:47] Trying c:\documents and settings\owner\local settings\temp\e4jf.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\bin\hotspot\jvm.dll (exists 0)
[43:47] Trying c:\documents and settings\owner\local settings\temp\e4jf.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\bin\jrockit\jvm.dll (exists 0)
[43:47] Setting PATH C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp\e4jF.tmp_dir1574812439\user;C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Oracle\Java\javapath;C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\PhysX\Common;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem
[43:47] Setting PATH 259 c:\documents and settings\owner\local settings\temp\e4jf.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\bin..\jre\bin;C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp\e4jF.tmp_dir1574812439\user;C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Oracle\Java\javapath;C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\PhysX\Common;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem
[43:47] Trying c:\documents and settings\owner\local settings\temp\e4jf.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\bin..\jre\bin\client\jvm.dll (exists 0)
[43:47] Trying c:\documents and settings\owner\local settings\temp\e4jf.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\bin..\jre\bin\server\jvm.dll (exists 0)
[43:47] Trying c:\documents and settings\owner\local settings\temp\e4jf.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\bin..\jre\bin\j9vm\jvm.dll (exists 0)
[43:47] Trying c:\documents and settings\owner\local settings\temp\e4jf.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\bin..\jre\bin\hotspot\jvm.dll (exists 0)
[43:47] Trying c:\documents and settings\owner\local settings\temp\e4jf.tmp_dir1574812439\jre\bin..\jre\bin\jrockit\jvm.dll (exists 0)
[43:47] Setting PATH C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temp\e4jF.tmp_dir1574812439\user;C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Oracle\Java\javapath;C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\PhysX\Common;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem
[43:47] ERROR: Could not get DLL-Handle.
[43:47] ERROR: Could not load functions
[43:47] ERROR: Could not load bundled JRE. Trying to find another JRE.
[43:47] LoadDLL (0, (null), 0)
[43:47] Searching for a JVM
[43:47] MinVersion: 11, MaxVersion:
[43:62] Testing location .....\PlugIns\jre.bundle\Contents\Home (type B)
[43:62] checkJavaExe (c:\documents and settings\owner\plugins\jre.bundle\contents\home\bin\java.exe, [out], 1, 0, 0)
[43:62] file doesn't exist
[43:62] checkJavaExe returning 0
[43:62] Testing location (type Y)
[43:62] checkJavaExe (C:\Program Files\Common Files\i4j_jres\1.8.0_66\bin\java.exe, [out], 1, 0, 1)
[43:62] file exists
[43:62] got version from registry 1.8.0_66
[43:62] checkJavaExe returning 0
[43:62] Testing location JAVA_HOME (type E)
[43:62] Testing location JDK_HOME (type E)
[43:62] Testing relative location .....\PlugIns\jre.bundle\Contents\Home
[43:62] checkJavaExe (c:\documents and settings\owner\plugins\jre.bundle\contents\home\bin\java.exe, [out], 1, 0, 1)
[43:62] file doesn't exist
[43:62] checkJavaExe returning 0
[43:109] checking app id allinstdirs5251-3669-9623-1649 (0, 80000001)
[46:890] found installations: C:\desktop
[46:890] checkJavaExe (C:\desktop\jre\bin\java.exe, [out], 1, 0, 0)
[46:890] file doesn't exist
[46:890] checkJavaExe returning 0
[46:906] java version did not match in C:\desktop\jre
[46:906] checking app id allinstdirs5251-3669-9623-1649 (512, 80000001)
[46:906] found installations: C:\desktop
[46:906] checkJavaExe (C:\desktop\jre\bin\java.exe, [out], 1, 0, 0)
[46:906] file doesn't exist
[46:906] checkJavaExe returning 0
[46:906] java version did not match in C:\desktop\jre
[46:906] checking app id allinstdirs5251-3669-9623-1649 (0, 80000002)
[46:906] found installations: C:\desktop
[46:906] checkJavaExe (C:\desktop\jre\bin\java.exe, [out], 1, 0, 0)
[46:906] file doesn't exist
[46:906] checkJavaExe returning 0
[46:906] java version did not match in C:\desktop\jre
[46:906] checking app id allinstdirs5251-3669-9623-1649 (512, 80000002)
[46:906] found installations: C:\desktop
[46:906] checkJavaExe (C:\desktop\jre\bin\java.exe, [out], 1, 0, 0)
[46:906] file doesn't exist
[46:906] checkJavaExe returning 0
[46:906] java version did not match in C:\desktop\jre
[46:906] Search sequence finished
[46:906] ERROR: No JVM found
[46:906] ERROR: Could not find another JRE.
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[Captain Crunch]

weird theres a sunglasses emoji in that

so if the latest release doesn't run on XP is there any way to play the latest AI that runs on XP? If not I'll get over it until I get a new comp!

[beelee]

@Captain-Crunch said in AI Interesting Moves and Points of Improvement on Revised:

weird theres a sunglasses emoji in that

yea makes ya wonder what they're testing and what location they're at lol
Looks like it tried it's hardest to get that java for ya Captain : )

maybe you'll get a new computer for Christmas : )

[Captain Crunch]

when downloading it from git my Chrome called it unknown from someones computer and asked if i wanted to still download it ... but whatever is there anyway to play this with XP operating system

[LaFayette]

Given the 32 bit version does not work, I'm sorry to say I don't think you have any options. How long before you get a new system?