Map Making Q&A

RogerCooper

@unit332 Try removing the foreach loop and check the capitalization on everything.

Also for debugging purposes set the round to 1+ and the chacne to 1:1 to see if you can get the trigger to fire.

unit332

simon33

So I've updated World_War_ii_Global and the version number has been bumped but I have noticed that the bots online have not been updated. Is there another step I need to take to achieve this?

beelee

@simon33

yea the bots need to be updated. I don't think anyone around to do it right now. There's some documentation out there, but I can't find it.

Basically you have to drop your firewalls to be able to do it and I didn't understand the safe way to do that.

@prastle and or @Panther probably know more about it. Or maybe @Cernel

You should be able to make a save of the latest map update and load that to a bot and play it that way though.

simon33

Nice workaround! The objective panel wouldn't work though.

beelee

@simon33 said in Map Making Q&A:

The objective panel wouldn't work though

Oh well that's no good. The panel doesn't work but it'll still show up at end of turn game report ?

Not ideal if so but at least one can play on the lobby that way.

Edit
It works locally though ? The Objectives ?

simon33

@beelee said in Map Making Q&A:

The panel doesn't work but it'll still show up at end of turn game report ?

Correct.

simon33

Oh maybe if you've updated your local map package it will look there for the objectives rather than on the bots. Not 100% sure now.

beelee

@simon33

yea Idk. Not perfect but people can at least play it on the lobby.

simon33

Actually, it seems that it stops you from loading a save game, because I have changed the name of the game from the previous version. If it was an upgrade to the previous version with the same name, it would be possible.

beelee

@simon33

oh yea different name that's not already available won't work.

bummer

Yea until Dan gets back, I don't think anybody updates them, maybe roiex can idk

simon33

@beelee said in Map Making Q&A:

oh yea different name that's not already available won't work.

Would this list be in the triplea-game repository? Not sure where else it would be.

beelee

@simon33 yea your map should be listed there but until somebody updates the bots it won't work in the lobby.

simon33

@beelee said in Map Making Q&A:

@simon33 yea your map should be listed there but until somebody updates the bots it won't work in the lobby.

The obvious question then is where in the repo? You aren't sure?

beelee

@simon33 not quite sure what you're asking but here is the maps list

https://github.com/triplea-maps

Yours should be in there

simon33

That's the list of packages . Aren't you saying that there is a list of map names somewhere? Or is it generated by cycling the triple-maps repos?

beelee

@simon33 yea idk. That and the yaml are the only map lists I know of.

Edit
Here's a couple links with some bot info

https://github.com/triplea-game/infrastructure

https://github.com/triplea-game/infrastructure/tree/master/ansible

RogerCooper

@simon33 There is some confusion is caused by the loose use of terminology, especially the term "map".

Here are the definitions I use

Mod A folder either on GitHub or your local computer that contains the files necessary to run specific scenarios. The in-game downloader uses the file https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/blob/master/triplea_maps.yaml to track the mods. Mods can also be downloaded from the site https://triplea-game.org/maps-list/maps/ or installed directly in your C:\Users<username>\triplea\downloadedMaps folder.

Map The set of files used to create the game board used in TripleA. In earlier versions of TripleA a mod could reference a map in separate folder, but that is no longer possible. There is a list at https://axisandallies.fandom.com/wiki/Category:TripleA_Maps. Some popular maps are used by multiple mods.

Scenario A specific game that can be played. A mod can have one or more scenarios. Scenarios are defined in the file map.yml in the mod. There is a list at https://axisandallies.fandom.com/wiki/Category:TripleA_Scenarios

xml The file that defines the non-map information for a scenario. A mod may have multiple xml files. If an xml file is not listed in map.yml, it will not be visible to TripleA.

Cernel

@simon33 said in Map Making Q&A:

That's the list of packages . Aren't you saying that there is a list of map names somewhere? Or is it generated by cycling the triple-maps repos?

Those "packages" are the maps.

Their names are given here:
https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/blob/master/triplea_maps.yaml

I don't know what you mean by "cycling the triple-maps repos".

For example, the name of the map given by the map-folder named as the_pact_of_steel is "The Pact of Steel".

Map-folders' names are supposed to be derived from maps' names this way:

When your map name is converted to all lower case, and spaces replaced with underscore, it must match the repository name.

Cernel

@rogercooper said in Map Making Q&A:

Mod A folder either on GitHub or your local computer that contains the files necessary to run specific scenarios. The in-game downloader uses the file https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/blob/master/triplea_maps.yaml to track the mods. Mods can also be downloaded from the site https://triplea-game.org/maps-list/maps/ or installed directly in your C:\Users<username>\triplea\downloadedMaps folder.

Map The set of files used to create the game board used in TripleA. In earlier versions of TripleA a mod could reference a map in separate folder, but that is no longer possible. There is a list at https://axisandallies.fandom.com/wiki/Category:TripleA_Maps. Some popular maps are used by multiple mods.

I find your definitions of mods and maps unclear.

I think "mod" is just short for "modified scenario (or game)". For example, "World At War" is the original scenario of the same-named map, and "WAW 1940" is a mod of it, so "World At War" is a scenario but not a mod and "WAW 1940" is a scenario and a mod, as I see it. You could thus say that that map features two scenarios: the main scenario and a mod of it.

Other cases are less clear. For example, in the V3 map, either 1942 could be seen as a mod of 1941 or both 1941 and 1942 could be seen as equal-standing main scenarios.