Map Making Q&A

LaFayette

@ff03k64 FWIW, the current wiki really is not well put together. There is an important google doc that goes through all the steps for hosting a map, though when it comes to building one, it's a bit of a scatter/hodge. Also FWIW the current map making wiki is an amalgam of the various documentation we had in many locations, so at least it is unified. It would be great to get help improving it, I think it is globally editable, so contributions to it are welcome.

https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/wiki

RogerCooper

@ff03k64 You put an invisible factory in each territory. Look at Domination to see a scenario which does that.

Personally, I don't like producing in any territory, I think it is unrealistic and makes the game less interesting. Taking factories and the decision to build a factory are an important part of the game.

redrum

@ff03k64 There is an XML wiki tool here: http://www.starlords3k.com/XOB.html. That combined with the POS2 XML comments are generally the best XML resources.

ff03k64

Can you pick a specific AI for them?

redrum

@ff03k64 No, it defaults to whats considered the best AI so Hard AI right now.

RyansPlace

How do you create a new unit option? I haven't found the file that defines them.

I'm attempting to add an option similar to "CanBombard" to Forts so they can fire in support of land and sea battles in an adjacent tile.

RogerCooper

@ryansplace You can look at the xml object browser. Also the Pact of Steel 2 mod has extensive comments documenting a great deal.

canBombard allows ships to support amphibious invasions, nothing else.

unit332

Hey folks, help a feller out.

Trying to create a Trigger that changes a relationship value between two factions from Allied to War with a 20% chance between rounds 20 and 30.

What am I doing wrong? I know $Player$ doesn't work but I don't grasp the triggers as much as I do the rest of the coding stuff.

<attachment name="conditionAttachment_Covenant_Civil_War" attachTo="Sangheili" javaClass="RulesAttachment" type="player">
	<option name="rounds" value="20-30"/>
</attachment>
<attachment foreach="$Player$" name="triggerAttachment_Covenant_Civil_War" attachTo="Sangheili" javaClass="TriggerAttachment" type="player">
	<option name="conditions" value="conditionAttachment_Covenant_Civil_War"/>
	<option name="relationshipChange" value="Sangheili:Jiralhanae:War"/>
	<option name="relationshipChange" value="Sangheili:UNSC_Core:Allied"/>
	<option name="relationshipChange" value="Sangheili:UNSC_Colonial:Allied"/>
	<option name="chance" value="1:5"/>
	<option name="uses" value="1"/>
	<option name="when" value="before:jiralhanaePurchase"/>
</attachment>

RogerCooper

@unit332 Try removing the foreach loop and check the capitalization on everything.

Also for debugging purposes set the round to 1+ and the chacne to 1:1 to see if you can get the trigger to fire.

unit332

@rogercooper Thanks!

simon33

So I've updated World_War_ii_Global and the version number has been bumped but I have noticed that the bots online have not been updated. Is there another step I need to take to achieve this?

beelee

@simon33

yea the bots need to be updated. I don't think anyone around to do it right now. There's some documentation out there, but I can't find it.

Basically you have to drop your firewalls to be able to do it and I didn't understand the safe way to do that.

@prastle and or @Panther probably know more about it. Or maybe @Cernel

You should be able to make a save of the latest map update and load that to a bot and play it that way though.

simon33

Nice workaround! The objective panel wouldn't work though.

beelee

@simon33 said in Map Making Q&A:

The objective panel wouldn't work though

Oh well that's no good. The panel doesn't work but it'll still show up at end of turn game report ?

Not ideal if so but at least one can play on the lobby that way.

Edit
It works locally though ? The Objectives ?

simon33

@beelee said in Map Making Q&A:

The panel doesn't work but it'll still show up at end of turn game report ?

Correct.

simon33

Oh maybe if you've updated your local map package it will look there for the objectives rather than on the bots. Not 100% sure now.

beelee

@simon33

yea Idk. Not perfect but people can at least play it on the lobby.

simon33

Actually, it seems that it stops you from loading a save game, because I have changed the name of the game from the previous version. If it was an upgrade to the previous version with the same name, it would be possible.

beelee

@simon33

oh yea different name that's not already available won't work.

bummer

Yea until Dan gets back, I don't think anybody updates them, maybe roiex can idk

simon33

@beelee said in Map Making Q&A:

oh yea different name that's not already available won't work.

Would this list be in the triplea-game repository? Not sure where else it would be.