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    • TheDogT Offline
      TheDog @butterw
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      @butterw
      Debug needs to able to Export, hence it should go under the Export heading.

      At the moment for Debug you have to Ctrl+A and Ctrl+C to Select All and Copy to a text editor like Notepad++.

      https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
      https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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      • B Offline
        butterw
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        @thedog
        Debug Menu seems to be empty but still present in v2.6. So I'm not sure what the current plan of the dev-team is with regard to the Debug menu and console ❓

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        • TheDogT Offline
          TheDog @butterw
          last edited by

          @butterw
          I think you have to do Game> Engine Settings> Testing Tab> Show Beta Feature = True

          To see the Hard AI logs, you will need a restart of TripleA.

          I think it will become a feature, as map makers use it to debug their scenarios and to work out what the AI thinks is of value to purchase in the purchase phase.

          https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
          https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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          • LaFayetteL Offline
            LaFayette Admin @butterw
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            @butterw Re: remember players

            A checkbox is unnecessary, the game could just remember the last setting.

            The remember players was built into a swing based rewrite but we then opted to try and stick with an attempted JavaFX rewrite which then was put to the side.

            One issue is the select players screen is written 3 times in the code. You could implement the feature thrice if you really wanted.

            3.0 would very likely rewrite the initial UIs. I don't think there will be a 2.7, so it would make sense to focus UI redesign of the launch screens to be folded into 3.0. This is something to be debated in the 3.0 thread that is up.

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            • B Offline
              butterw @LaFayette
              last edited by

              @lafayette
              Correct, the checkbox isn't needed, the game should just remember the current players (the players can be set to default to reset, and a new map will load its own defaults).
              This is a useful feature, I'm hope it is included in v3.0, when the code for the launcher finally gets refactored.

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              • LaFayetteL Offline
                LaFayette Admin @butterw
                last edited by

                @butterw Hard to say, the goal of 3.0 is going to be to rewrite the engine. It would be logical to have, the main priority is getting the design right so that we can update TripleA in a reasonable manner and get 3.0 launched before 2023.

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                • LaFayetteL Offline
                  LaFayette Admin @LaFayette
                  last edited by

                  Correction/clarification, the main goal of 3.0 is going to be to massively restructure the engine without rewriting it all, FWIW.. there is a significant difference in the two approaches.

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                  • B Offline
                    butterw @LaFayette
                    last edited by

                    @lafayette

                    A checkbox is unnecessary, the game could just remember the last setting.

                    The remember players was built into a swing based rewrite but we then opted to try and stick with an attempted JavaFX rewrite which then was put to the side.

                    One issue is the select players screen is written 3 times in the code. You could implement the feature thrice if you really wanted.

                    Do you have any pointers on how to achieve this ?
                    Does the TripleAFrame need to pass the player info to the panel with the player types or can the launcher just remember it ?

                    If you are playing a local game and leave the game (ex: maybe to reload a save game) the current player setup should be remembered.

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                    • LaFayetteL Offline
                      LaFayette Admin @butterw
                      last edited by

                      @butterw See settingPersistence field in JMenuItemCheckBoxBuilder. Something similar could be done for a combo box.

                      I don't know to what extent it makes sense to start this unless you think you can be done very quickly. I'd like for us to start focusing on 2.6 QA and get that released and then tackle 3.0.

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                        butterw @LaFayette
                        last edited by butterw

                        Menu update

                        @lafayette
                        HelpMenu_with_merged_WebMenu

                        • I can submit a pull-request for merging WebMenu with HelpMenu in v2.6.
                          In the Help menu, my proposition is to shorten the title
                          "Movement/Selection Help (Keyboard & Mouse)" to "Movement/Selection". The full title would appear in the dialog window.
                        • What about merging Debug with Export as suggested by @theDog ? The Debug Menu currently has a single entry (AI log).
                        • with v2.6.231 I'm getting a null pointer exception when I try to save Engine Settings/Testing.
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                        • LaFayetteL Offline
                          LaFayette Admin @butterw
                          last edited by

                          @butterw Debug and export are quite different. Having the AI log appear in 'help' might be more appropriate. Not sure though offhand.

                          The "movement/selection" menu item title change sounds good.

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                            butterw @LaFayette
                            last edited by butterw

                            @lafayette
                            The Debug menu shows one subMenu "Hard AI" (only if Hard AI is playing) with only one entry show AI logs. My suggestion would be to rename Debug to something else and bring in some features which don't really fit their current location (in View, Game Menus).
                            It shouldn't be in HelpMenu IMO.

                            EDIT: "Debug" Menu could be renamed to "Tools".
                            These are the menu entries I suggest moving to "Tools":

                            • Game / Battle Calculator
                            • Game / Game statistics
                            • Game / Show Dice Stats
                            • Game / Roll Dice
                            • View / Find Territory
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                            • B Offline
                              butterw
                              last edited by butterw

                              Display map zoom level on screen when hotkeys are used to change it.

                              I've implemented this feature suggested by @Cernel using the status bar display.

                              alt text

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                              • LaFayetteL Offline
                                LaFayette Admin @butterw
                                last edited by

                                @butterw Zoom menu in status bar has a few considerations:

                                • One would expect to be able to click it to toggle it. Why else have it listed? OTOH this would be inconsistent with the other status bar displays that are all read only
                                • status bar can get crammed on maps with lots of resources. The civil war maps are good test candidates. Is this info that important to compete with the other info presented?
                                • One would also probably want other map rendering details to be displayed in an option, maybe, like turning on and off map blends.

                                How about the zoom level were printed as temporary text on the screen? I'm picturing how "EDIT MODE" renders, but instead it'll be for zoom level and would disappear after a second or two.

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                                  butterw @LaFayette
                                  last edited by butterw

                                  @lafayette

                                  • Having a zoom display when zooming is a useful feature.
                                  • The status bar display isn't permanent, it only stays from when the zoom hotkey is pressed until the status bar Label gets blanked or overwritten.
                                  • Map zoom could be displayed at startup, but it isn't that useful. View Menu > Map zoom can be used to know the zoom at any given time.
                                  • The GlassPane used to paint "EDIT MODE" on screen could potentially be used instead of the status bar, but there may be issues with this. The display would need to be smaller and anti-aliased (are there performance issues ?) and you would also need to handle the case where you are zooming in Edit mode.
                                  • Adding zoom display from keyboard hotkey or View menu is simple to do, the mouse wheel hotkey may be more difficult.

                                  https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/pull/9339

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                                  • TheDogT Offline
                                    TheDog @butterw
                                    last edited by TheDog

                                    More UI suggestions

                                    Players tab: On the current Players tab, it would nice to have smallest flag displayed against each player and the faction colour is the background colour of the text of that faction.

                                    Tech tab: On the current Players tab it would be nice to have a Tech tab, but with the axis's swapped, with the player listed vertically and the Tech horizontal.
                                    Currently the tech can get in the way when then there are say 16 players listed. The tech is currently listed in alphabetical order, but should be in player turn order.

                                    Tool Tips: The placement currently says Placement Restrictions [ ] and should actually list the terrain restrictions.

                                    Tool Tips: Can modify unit movement should list the units affected, currently if there 3+ units affected it just says Can modify unit movement
                                    .

                                    End of turn summary: Needs a little attention so the numbers are listed, one to line.
                                    Unspent PU from previous turn xx <-- New and needs adding
                                    Blockade PU lost xx
                                    Player collects xx
                                    Units generate xx
                                    Player end with xx

                                    At the bottom of the frame the Blockade should list the territories that are being affected.

                                    https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
                                    https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                                    • B Offline
                                      butterw @TheDog
                                      last edited by

                                      Regarding end of Turn Summary:

                                      • The end of turn summary is written the way it is because it is currently also used for history log entries.
                                      • The player has the option of turning off the summary pop-up.
                                      • If someone wants to try create a custom summary it probably doesn''t require great programming skills to do so, but it may take some time to get the exact desired result.

                                      The Territory Panel could use some improvements IMO, with a lot of space wasted/not so useful stuff. I would get rid of the buttons for instance.

                                      Unit tooltip issues should probably be discussed in a separate thread.

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                                      • C Offline
                                        Cernel Moderators Lobby Moderators
                                        last edited by

                                        So, how about my suggestion of having the scroll wheel default zooming?

                                        It can be Alt+Wheel to move the map up and down and Alt+Shift+Wheel to move it left and right. Mouses having bi-axis wheels would scroll the map with Alt+Wheel only.

                                        Then, clicking the scroll wheel may reset the zoom at 100%.

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                                        • B Offline
                                          butterw
                                          last edited by butterw

                                          The solution is ultimately to have customizable hotkeys.

                                          Alt+Shift+Wheel doesn't seem practical unless you have a side-scrolling mouse, (Shift+Wheel is the key combination produced by a side-scrolling mouse).

                                          It does require significant modifications to the code, and may be more difficult to achieve for the mouse than for the keyboard.

                                          The objective is to have a file with definition such as:
                                          Hotkey.ZOOM_IN1 = Ctrl+mouse_wheel_forward
                                          Hotkey.ZOOM_OUT1 = Ctrl+mouse_wheel_backward

                                          EDIT: CTRL + mouse_wheel is the standard hotkey for zooming if the display is scrollable (ex: web browser).

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                                            butterw
                                            last edited by butterw

                                            Help > About... Dialog (work in progress)

                                            • We can move some of the links from the current help menu to this html dialog.
                                            • It gives the version info in the main game interface.
                                            • I'm probably going to add Dpi scaling info (ex: 100%).

                                            alt text

                                            EDIT 1: This JOptionPane.showOptionDialog based version does some kind of glow effect after the dialog loads (could also be a bug as it wasn't intended 🤠 )

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