💥 1941 Global Command Decision - Official Thread

[TheDog]

@black_elk
As always some good insights, I will digest and post, maybe at the weekend.

Re: Post about better AI.
Ebbe and I have been working on a new version of Shogun Advanced, its almost ready. It has Get Impending Winner routine, this is where the isAI is used to change the political relationship of neutral Clans to War to try/Get Impending Winner.

For GCD I think I have given the AI a lot of help already, with free Industries & units, and programmed placements, but I will look again.

[TheDog]

Latest version v180 ready for download.

WARNING: This version is NOT compatible with your old saved games, so finish them before upgrading.

In TripleA
Click Download Maps Button
Click Installed tab
Click 1941 Global Command Decision
Click Remove Button
Click Yes button to remove
Click Ok button (Successfully removed)
Click Close (To force the map list to refresh)
Click Download Maps Button
Find & Click 1941 Global Command Decision
Click Install button
Enjoy!

v180
Thanks Cernel for the HQ icon changes & renaming suggestions.

• Swapped Gemany HQ-Army Manstein, was Rommel. (thanks Black Elk). Rommel icon is in 1941_global_command_decision\map\units\Germany\NotUsed
• Swapped Italy HQ-Army icon Bastico, was Roatta (thanks Black Elk)
• Swapped Italy HQ-Fleet icon Angelo Iachino
• Swapped Italy HQ-Air icon Rino Corso Fougier (BW with AI colorized)
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• Renamed Chernihiv to Chernigov
• Renamed Kyiv to Kiev
• Renamed Prinsk to Pinsk
• Renamed Prypriat to Prypiat
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• Tool Tips now includes canNotTarget (thanks to johnnycat) Some are now color coded to aid the player
• Manual update politics sheet (thanks to johnnycat)
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Link to 1st post that has;

• Google Drive download link
• Latest TripleA version
• Latest 1941 GCD manual

https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3326/1941-global-command-decision-official-thread

[Black_Elk]

First run for the new one. I did Japan again and took it half a dozen rounds.

Similar to the last game we went for the quick crush on Chunking and then tried for the easy pickups vs the Dutch islands. I opted to gun for Hawaii as well this time, just to get ahead of things. The Chinese had a nice counter attack going since we had to give up ground to swing heavy vs the south, but eventually we yo yo'd them into a trap along the coast to destroy their HQs with the amphib and air support. I did the Impala swing to snap up Ceylon and get on India. We doubled back of Hawaii the same round to start putting the heat on New Guinea. Still holding steady at 20 VCs, but I think Axis are about to round the corner. FastAI Germany just held Moscow through the round. I thought we might take the Win at Sydney but then Pacific Allies clapped back a bit and sank my pocket fleet. Will probably have to be Cairo or Baghdad instead for the VC kill.

Fun campaign for a sprawler hehe

2024-9-5-1941-Global-Command-Decision J6.tsvg

[JohnnyCat]

TOBRUK

So I'm sitting with a new player and he looks at the map and decides he wants to take Tobruk

And he, reasonably, thinks to bring in the Malta-based air units to help and then to add to the defense of Alex/Cairo

So I asked him to bring up the tool tips to ensure that said fighter could help:

Since I DO NOT see any RED BOLD or otherwise notable tooltip restriction I assume that this Fighter COULD attack this infantry... EDIT - This was NOT using the newest game so perhaps the new game has this???

But then I recall hearing a rumor told to me by a cat that was cruising by one evening who told me about another rumor about fighters not being able to target land units or inf or something ...

Anyway please let me know if this fighter can or cannot be effective here and if not, are you doing anything in the tool tips to ensure that this knowledge is readily available ???

Cheers

[JohnnyCat]

@thedog GREAT NEWS !!!!!!!

[JohnnyCat]

@johnnycat CONTINUING ON with my young friend's indoctrination into GCD...

So we conclude that fighters cannot attack ground units (which makes no sense to me but I'm guessing you all have a reason that does make sense) he decides to use the tac bombers.

The ODDs of victory for Tobruk and the neighbor are 95%

Sounds great right?

But two seconds later the attacking force on Benghazi IS WIPED OUT

And everything in Tobruk is ALSO WIPED OUT except the attacking Tac-Bomber which limps back in total confusion and embarrassment, lol.

Does any of this make any sense ? NOTE: we ALWAYS select LOW LUCK.

Thanks

[JohnnyCat]

FAST or HARD

And I am not talking about my Girl Friend

Why when you folks post games you seem to use the AI FAST and not the AI HARD???

What is the reason for this choice?

[JohnnyCat]

@thedog Well I upgraded to v180 but despite multiple restarts I cannot seem to get any previous game saves to work nor start a new game

Am I doing something wrong?

[TheDog]

@johnnycat
v180 does have colored Tool tips, v175 does not

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Fighters cannot kill Inf-Trained, etc because Fighters would look for/target high value assets and not waste their ammo on infantry that they would probably have little to no effect on. This map is trying to be a simulation of WW2.

Question for you, why are using Low Luck? Try it without. I have never played with Low Luck, for me Ordinary Luck its part of the fog of war.

FastAI is faster and appears more aggressive than slower HardAI. FastAI plays more like a human would, but its your choice.

Am I doing something wrong?

No. (regarding try to load a saved game)

Regarding loading old saved games, you cannot, my bad, I will update the v180 post.

The reason is because 4 territories got renamed and they dont match your older saved games.
Either reload an old version of the map v175 or start a new game.

[wc_sumpton]

@johnnycat said in 1941 Global Command Decision - Official Thread:

And everything in Tobruk is ALSO WIPED OUT except the attacking Tac-Bomber which limps back in total confusion and embarrassment, lol.

Bad dice. With low-luck, and you stated 1 tac survived, it would be 1 dice at 5 vs 1 dice at 2, with the following round being 1 dice at 4 with the loss of 1 infantry. If the tac is taken out during the a round of AA combat, then both attacker and defender are 1 dice at 2 until the loss of an infantry.

So, bad dice.

Cheers...

[JohnnyCat]

@thedog I APPRECIATE THIS answer very much.

you explained the fighters with logic I assumed you had - and I don’t disagree.

But because I feel most people will assume otherwise, as I did over the past year, I PLAN ON ADDING YOUR EXPLANATION to the manual !!! So thanks for spelling that out. With that explained in the manual I’ll certainly feel better about how newbies will come across such a scenario. Because THEY WILL expect those fighters to behave as in a Hollywood film lol

SIMILARLY ABOUT HARD AI vs FAST AI

Unlike what you said, and again I’ll state I don’t disagree, I feel most newbies will come to this game/(sigh, I mean “map”) with the expectations that HARD is better than FAST

And once again your explained logic is something I feel is required to be In The manual.

MOVING ON

I totally DISAGREE, however, WITH YOU about LOW LUCK. Well… maybe I do. And well maybe not.

Initially i might say something like “I’m not interested in wasting my time with any game where 2+4 sometimes equals 6 but some times equals 6 hundred and 47!!”

“No thank you” I’d go on, “I want to know that when my armored division comes upon your sword-wielding, one-eyed conscript and his three legged donkey I FREAKING WIN. “

I can’t imagine choosing the frustration that would come from playing a game with such depth and complexity as this and then introducing extreme randomness.

BUT THEN AGAIN I suspect that I know why you choose low luck and I’m starting to agree:: : You guys must be board with this game by now cause you know it so well haha

Seriously I think I understand that because now I can’t lose to the AI no matter what side I play so I too keep trying to spice it up. Only instead of adding randomness to dice rolls I prefer to make it interesting by adjusting the unit balance or introducing fantasy things like giving the Germans a nuke early or shifting the entire Italian force away from Russia or setting up an early German conquest of South America.

In any case, once again I feel we all benefit from your response so again my sincere thanks

FINALLY PLEASE REREAD WHAT I SAID

I CANNOT GET THE GAME v180 TO WORK

The territory name change makes great sense about saved games BUT as I said I cannot get a new game to work EITHER

I posted those images because that’s all I have to go on.

I’m using Macs, ofc.

Cheers
Johnny

[JohnnyCat]

@wc_sumpton got it. Thx

[wc_sumpton]

@johnnycat said in 1941 Global Command Decision - Official Thread:

I’m using Macs, ofc.

I don't think @TheDog or myself can help, as I believe we are both using Windows.

In Windows, located in the triplea directory, within the user directory, is a text file "triplea.log", which contains error information from the engine. Maybe locating this file and posting it might help.

Cheers...

[JohnnyCat]

@wc_sumpton said in 1941 Global Command Decision - Official Thread:

triplea.log

Well I don't have a clue about how to install or debug software on a Mac.

And I did not find a triplea.log file.

[TheDog]

@johnnycat
Then I suggest you uninstall TripleA and reinstall it. Hopefully that will fix the failure to play a new game.

As wc_sumpton said I/we cannot help, we are Windows users.

[JohnnyCat]

@wc_sumpton So a closer look shows that the GCD selection IS NOT reflected in the display window.

Here is what I mean... when I select a random game(map) the title is shown in the display

But when choosing the GCD no title is displayed.

[TheDog]

@johnnycat
On a mac, when try to load GCD v180 do you get a pop up that says upgrade your TripleA version to 2.7.14848+, because you should, as you are on an old version, it needs to be 2.7.14848 or higher.

To upgrade your version go here
https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases
and install the latest.

[JohnnyCat]

@thedog WORKS PERFECTLY NOW !!!

Sorry for not even considering the version number of the TripleA engine...

At first glance I am loving the new Super Hero faces! Good job with that.

BUT I STRONGLY SUGGEST you put that little gold collar around the face circles as was discussed earlier last month. I feel very strongly that those faces just do not stand out enough and ANY sort of colored collar would go a long way at helping.

And as I recall one of you guys, maybe @beelee ??, suggested tying the color to the country. VERY GREAT IDEA THAT.

And your updated Tooltips are AWESOME Mate!!! That will help immensely !

OK. well back at the manual for me - which now is focused on concise game play examples...

Cheers

[TheDog]

@johnnycat

Sorry for not even considering the version number of the TripleA engine...

If you did not get the upgrade pop up, then you would not know you needed to upgrade.

Mac versions of TripleA can be problematic from what I have read.

[beelee]

@johnnycat said in 1941 Global Command Decision - Official Thread:

FAST or HARD
And I am not talking about my Girl Friend

Been a long time since i had one but the last one wouldve wanted to play with both at the same time

Hmm ... I wonder if you can select different AI's for different Players. I think you can. Guess I could just try it