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    • TheDogT Online
      TheDog @TheDog
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      @thedog said in Jurassic v2.0:

      Is there a way to convert/change a unitType into a Resource?

      Thinking more on this, on death of a unit, you could change into a none moving unit, say 5:meat.

      This would give 5:meat every turn. So you would need a trigger to remove these meat units after the players endTurn

      https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
      https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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        GREGOREK
        last edited by

        Updated Jurassic: unit a/d/m mods, map cleaning, and 20-sided dice. Makes for a very WIDE battle menu but was needed for balance. Maybe the battle-menu could be modified to not display dice with no units. That would shrink it back down.

        http://john.gregorek.com/Games/jurassic-master.zip
        

        I'm making another game-map called Neanderthal. It is a test bed for the item/monster triggers to be added to Jurassic. For now, they can both be addressed here.
        This is a sample top-left corner of the map. Scripts auto-generate (XY-wrapped) topology, terrain, territories, borders, cell gutters and relationships. If there is interest, I could post a few unit-less maps for use in other game developments. But first ...

        ![NeanderthalMap.png](/assets/uploads/files/1779198528459-neanderthalmap.png) 
        

        ... I have one concern. Note: 'Lj' and 'Lad' territories run off the border and wrap to the other side of the map (not shown). How do I define the points in the 'polygons.txt' file? The loops are currently defined around the territory center. Thus, border loops that run off the left or top edge will have negative values and values greater than the map dimensions if portions run off the right or bottom.

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          GREGOREK @GREGOREK
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          NeanderthalMap.png

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          • RogerCooperR Offline
            RogerCooper @GREGOREK
            last edited by

            @GREGOREK If you want territories that wraparound, you could treat them like archipelagos like Kyushu and Honshu on almost any map.

            I am interested in automatic generation software you have.

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            • TheDogT Online
              TheDog @GREGOREK
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              @GREGOREK said:

              How do I define the points in the 'polygons.txt' file?

              You dont.

              Also there are no negative coordinates, the map is treated as if no wrap around existed, except for below.

              The wrap around map edges will share a vertical map line, one to the left one to right.
              You then need to stitch the wrap around TT/SZ manually together with connections in the xml like so;
              <connection t1="Chihuahua-Durango" t2="Mexico City"/>
              <connection t1="Acapulco-Chiapas" t2="Sinaloa-Guadalajara"/>
              <connection t1="064 Sea Zone" t2="011 Sea Zone"/>
              <connection t1="064 Sea Zone" t2="028 Sea Zone"/>

              In map.properties this must be true
              map.scrollWrapX=true

              That should work.

              https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
              https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                GREGOREK
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                <connection...> just facilitates the movement between separate territories.

                Is there a way to declare two separate territories and then join them so the game treats them as a single territory?

                This would get around the hard map borders limiting wrapped territory definitions, and getting rid of the ugly common vertical/horizontal map border lines.

                For example a territory defined overlapping the top-left corner would get defined as four separate territories to fall completely within the map borders. Then a [join command] stitches the pieces back together making a truly seamless fully wrapped map.

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                • TheDogT Online
                  TheDog @GREGOREK
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                  @GREGOREK

                  Is there a way to declare two separate territories and then join them so the game treats them as a single territory?

                  I don't think that is possible. Its the vertical/horizontal map border lines or no wrapping.
                  Maybe someone else can help?

                  https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
                  https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                  • RogerCooperR Offline
                    RogerCooper @TheDog
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                    @TheDog You can't do it in the xml file. You need to do it in polygons.txt. Here is New Zealand in World War II v3.

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                    Note the angle brackets define each particular section.

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                    • G Offline
                      GREGOREK @RogerCooper
                      last edited by

                      @RogerCooper THANK YOU

                      The polygons.txt defines the separate zones to get player-colored (will have a single pixel black border), and the overlay reliefTiles can hide that hard edge border to give the appearance of fully wrapped irregular territories.

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                      • G Offline
                        GREGOREK
                        last edited by

                        Frustration mounting. Carved up territories where they overlap map boundaries. All looking good with a few exceptions. The problem is no reliefTiles displaying. So, I purged the territory boundaries and just registered squares for each around centers. Just to get them out of the discussion, should an error there have some impact on the display not using the reliefTiles. All defined exactly like Jurassic, et al. Very simple map.properties file with a single player (alone) and game unit (nobody). The scroll works but no baseTiles or reliefTiles. All folders present and unzipped in downloadedMaps folder to get better debugging messages.

                        color.alone=ff9f40
                        color.Neutral=333333
                        color.Impassable=000000
                        units.scale=1.00
                        map.hasRelief=true
                        map.scrollWrapX=true
                        map.scrollWrapY=true
                        map.showCapitolMarkers=false
                        map.width=5120
                        map.height=5120
                        

                        Note: If neanderthal is zipped in the downloadedMaps folder then I get an error polygons.txt cannot be found, even though it's in the map folder. Extract the zip in place and error goes away. I've basically cloned jurassic to make neanderthal. It has to be something simple overlooked. Any insights?

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                          GREGOREK @GREGOREK
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                          neanderthal.png

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                          • TheDogT Online
                            TheDog @GREGOREK
                            last edited by

                            @GREGOREK
                            Just checking you have View> Show Map Details TICKED

                            https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
                            https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                              GREGOREK @TheDog
                              last edited by

                              @TheDog
                              it's checked and debug console empty.
                              I ordered a Ouija board from Amazon.

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                                GREGOREK
                                last edited by

                                This is irritating.

                                I turned off the surrounding territories by replacing their boundary with a simple square. Then did all, except for the two offending cells. Removed duplicate pixels in other loops. Reduced all cells by averaging every three pixels (with an integer snap) to get rid of 'staircases'. Same Result.

                                borderTestLc.png borderTestLnc.png

                                Dumped their data into a separate display. Look fine. Bright light, crosses, I dont know what else to try. Note: these loops are the first in each of the associated territory's polygons.txt definition. One houses its territory center. The other does not. Doesnt seem to matter.

                                The reliefTiles also continue to annoy. Sparse forum posts on the subject. I'm going to try finding TripleA cache files with Neanderthal in the name and deleting them. Maybe some legacy data preventing their display.

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                                  GREGOREK @GREGOREK
                                  last edited by

                                  reliefTiles are now displaying.
                                  I have once again brought shame to my family.

                                  still have the two territories not displaying all their parts as posted above.

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                                    GREGOREK
                                    last edited by

                                    Here's an interesting wrinkle. I have a memory fault. something I've done or omitted, is trashing memory.

                                    neanderthal.png

                                    I associated a territory with one of the players simply to mark it in the game, and suddenly a working territory cannot find the forest factory image which is used everywhere.

                                    neanderthalNull.png

                                    The gray box is the new anomaly. All forest territories have an invisible 16x16 factory. Nothing special about this one. Defined exactly like all the others. This error does not happen when the larger polygon loop described above is not assigned a player owner.

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                                      TheDog @GREGOREK
                                      last edited by

                                      @GREGOREK
                                      These version will ignore the missing image and then tell you which image is missing.

                                      2.7.15256
                                      ▪ Technology tab split from players tab on to its own tab. (Really good for 1888a & Total World War as they have lots of Tech)
                                      ▪ Shows any map missing icons as a placeholder square icon.
                                      ▪ Shows on status bar the relationship(war, neutral, allied) of territories (Really good in FFA maps)
                                      https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases/tag/2.7.15256

                                      and
                                      https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/releases/tag/2.7.15570

                                      So upgrade.

                                      https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
                                      https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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                                        GREGOREK @TheDog
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                                        @TheDog
                                        Upgraded to latest. Now experiencing squint font with no way to change it. (?)
                                        Problems persist. Factory Image is loaded and used everywhere. XML is script generated so any typo would appear everywhere.
                                        Getting new error behaviors by simply adding owner to a territory suggests memory trashing somewhere.
                                        I probably gutted too much out of Jurassic to make a bare-bones XML. Jurassic works with no change to management image files like factories. All carried over to Neanderthal.
                                        I suspect a missing initializer in the XML.
                                        Thanks for the help. I'll keep digging.

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                                          GREGOREK @GREGOREK
                                          last edited by

                                          Note: in this latest version, I dont see the debug window. Latest screen error:

                                          NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "java.awt.image.BufferedImage.getWidth(java.awt.image.ImageObserver)" because "fromFile" is null
                                          

                                          Who is this 'Observer'? and are they watching me now?!

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                                            TheDog @GREGOREK
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                                            @GREGOREK
                                            Just checking you know about triplea.log
                                            It is located here
                                            C:\Users\%USERNAME%\triplea

                                            The console looks very similar to triplea.log

                                            https://forums.triplea-game.org/tags/thedog
                                            https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/3741/curated-best-top-maps-triplea-guides

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