EXP Game 12 barnee vs Trout

[beelee]

@Trout

Just got done processing a porkloin lol Just let the butcher do it next time

Yea 1st SS Pnzr is who I want active for AG Center. I shoulda put a red dot in the Box. The SS PG will still roll at 2, even after it's disbanded, so, A red dot and a blue dot and 2 SS Pnzrs.

When 1st SS Pnzr is disbanded, kill the red dot. The blue dot will continue to roll at 2 and any of the other 2 now at 1.

Blue dot for the Wehrmacht's 1st Pnzr

Edit
Also need 3 AF Ftrs with the orange wingtips. Remove the 3 regular Ftrs. The AF Cmndr with orange nose for the Ftrs is correct

Edit 2
You'll need to fight in edit to allow for the Flags. I guess just list the hits and I'll respond. Blow my mind apart if I try to cipher the potential OOL

[Trout]

@beelee No problem on doing the battle in Edit Mode. I swapped out the fighters for the orange wing guys. But I don't understand what you are saying for the SS PG. Got it that you want that one being active. I just don't know how to do that since there's no red dot SS PG??

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[beelee]

@Trout

Good Evening
Yea you'll have to edit in the Active SS PG. I think I might auto place Active PG/TGs in their Boxes for next update. That'll free some room in the Overflow Boxes.

I'll take a look now.

Edit
yea so undo the Red Dot Pnzr and the 3 SS Pnzrs. Then adda red dot SS Pnzr to 1st SS Box. Then move a blue dot from 1st Pnzr and 2 SS Pnzrs and a blue and a red from 1st SS Pnzr Box and you should be good to go.

Should look like this

EXP Game 12 Trout R 7 Attack Example.tsvg

Edit 2
Sadly you have to undo all the soviet attacks into UKR and then adjust Germany. Otherwise the units will show up but not defend.

I'll put that on the list for Victory

Edit 3
Fwiw this is what triplea shows with me removing the A Trprt

Here's a 1 rd strafe

[Trout]

@beelee Aah! Sorry - brain fart moment. So there's a red dot SS PG that I can edit in. Got it. I hadn't done the math but Soviet Union has to take some chances. Things don't look good even if I do win this 30% battle. But I don't see a better COA honestly. If Allies were pressing you elsewhere, I could pull back to Moscow in order to survive 2-3 turn until Allies bale me out. But sinking the IJN was best I could do, and I failed to account for your carrier & two carrier-based popping up in 6 for you to use before USA goes again. This game will probably end with a butt-paddling and some lessons learned.

By the way, I believe in our games the Axis win alot more than the Allies. Just an observation.

Will work on the R turn today

[Trout]

@beelee So I think you are saying I need to redo the combat moves and get the defending G units set up correctly first before moving the R units in. Do I have that right?

[beelee]

@Trout

Good Afternoon

Yea you have to have all Defenders in the TTy before moving any attackers in. If you don't, then any defenders added afterwards will show up on the map but will be ignored in the battle.

[Trout]

@beelee Good morning. Sorry but still having trouble getting this battle set up. So I started all over for Combat Move and set up G but it still won't let me add in via Edit the red dot SS PG. It won't let me add it to Ukraine or the box. This is where I am at. Have G all set up except for the red dot SS PG

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[beelee]

@Trout

right on. I'll take a look after bit

Here you go EXP Game 12 Trout R 7 Attack Defenders Set.tsvg

Blue dot SS Pnzr is in his Box. I swapped a regular SS Pnzr for him. You have to add red dot from the edit window. You can look at History to see what I did.

[Trout]

@beelee Thanks. I guess I forgot how to do combat in Edit Mode but sending you this file so you can choose your casualties. I did roll really good in this Round 1 so maybe I do have a chance to win this fight? We will see I guess.

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[beelee]

@Trout

having trouble selecting the dudes as it goes off screen. I used to hit enter and it would work but that just keeps selecting the last guy I was on.

I tried to turn mirror back on so the laptop screen is on too but that's not working either. I'll keep dicking with it.

To fight in edit, turn on edit and then click on actions and you can click on the UKR battle then

If you can get it to work, I'll kill
1 aaGun
12 Inf
3 Pnzrs
2 PnzrGrndr
2 Tacs
5 = all the Italians

Kill the Flag too. If you can't get it to work, keep the AA and kill the Flag

[Trout]

@beelee Wow! Got it to work in Edit Mode. You got 25 hits also so I killed 25 dudes and the flag. Then I rolled 17 hits in second round!!! I would be pissed at the dice if I were you except that you have the clear advantage in the game even if I win this fight.

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Actually 17 hits barely kills all of your remaining stuff. So I will just roll on and complete the fight

[beelee]

@Trout heh heh well keep the blue dot Pnzr for last

Edit
yea 17 kills everything. Just dust the Trprt too

[Trout]

@beelee Game History

Round: 7

    Purchase Units - Russians
        Note to players Russians: <body><b>It is Early 1943 and the Best Soviet Tank Unit has been Promoted to Elite Status.<br><br><img src="Elitearmour.png"/><br><br> You May Only Have One Total at Anytime .<b></body>
        Trigger RussiansTotalWarArty: buyTotalWar_Arty added to productionRussians
        Trigger RussiansTotalWarInf: buyTotalWar_Inf added to productionRussians
        Trigger RussiansTotalWar Bomber: buyTotalWar_Bomber added to productionRussians
        Trigger RussiansEliteArmor: buyEliteArmour added to productionRussians
        Trigger RussiansTotalWarFighter: buyTotalWarFighter added to productionRussians
        Trigger RussiansTotalWarAirTrprt: buyTotalWarAirTrprt added to productionRussians
        Trigger RussiansTotalWarTank: buyTotalWar_Tank_2 added to productionRussians
        Trigger RussiansTotalWarMechInf: buyTotalWarMechInf added to productionRussians
        Trigger RussiansTotalWarTacBmbr: buyTotalWarTacBmbr added to productionRussians
        Russians buy 3 Mass_Tankss and 3 TotalWar_Tank_2s; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 1 AirLendLease; 3 TankLendLease; 

    Combat Move - Russians
        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRussians: Russians has 1 R_Europe_Rail and 2 Russian_Rails placed in Russia
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Greater Southern Germany: 1 waffen_PG_Active
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Turning on Edit Mode
        EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        EDIT: 3 fighters moved from Ukraine to 1st Luftflotten
        EDIT: 3 GfighterAFs moved from GermanFlow to Ukraine
        EDIT: 1 1stLuftflotten moved from Ukraine to 1st Luftflotten
        EDIT: 2 GAirCommanderFtrs moved from GermanFlow to Ukraine
        EDIT: Russians undo move 2.
        EDIT: 1 GAirCommanderFtr moved from GermanFlow to Ukraine
        EDIT: 3 GfighterAFs moved from GermanFlow to Ukraine
        EDIT: 1 ArmyGroupCentre moved from Ukraine to Army Group Centre
        EDIT: 1 ArmyGroupActive moved from Army Group Centre to Ukraine
        EDIT: 1 ElitePanzer moved from Army Group Centre to Ukraine
        EDIT: 1 elite moved from Army Group Centre to Ukraine
        EDIT: 2 Panzer_Grndrss moved from Army Group Centre to Ukraine
        EDIT: 1 1stPanzerArmy moved from Army Group Centre to 1st Panzer
        EDIT: 5 armour moved from 1st Panzer to Ukraine
        EDIT: 1 Panzer_General moved from 1st Panzer to Ukraine
        EDIT: 1 1stWaffenArmy moved from Army Group Centre to 1st Waffen
        EDIT: 1 Waffen_Oberst moved from 1st Waffen to Ukraine
        EDIT: 2 waffen_infantrys moved from 1st Waffen to Ukraine
        EDIT: 1 Waffen_Arty moved from 1st Waffen to Ukraine
        EDIT: 1 1stWaffenPnzrArmy moved from Army Group Centre to 1st Waffen Panzer
        EDIT: 3 waffen_panzers moved from 1st Waffen Panzer to Ukraine
        EDIT: 1 waffen_panzer moved from Ukraine to 1st Waffen Panzer
        EDIT: 1 waffen_PG moved from 1st Waffen Panzer to Ukraine
        EDIT: 1 waffen_PG_Active moved from Greater Southern Germany to Ukraine
        EDIT: 1 1stSovietAG moved from Bryansk to 1st Army Group
        EDIT: 1 ArmyGroupActive, 2 artilleries, 1 guard_infantry and 7 infantry moved from 1st Army Group to Ukraine
        EDIT: 3 guard_infantrys and 26 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
        EDIT: 3 armour moved from Russia to Ukraine
        EDIT: Russians undo move 24.
        EDIT: Russians undo move 23.
        EDIT: 5 armour moved from 1st Tank to Ukraine
        EDIT: 1 Tank_General3 moved from Overflow to Ukraine
        EDIT: 2 armour moved from 2nd Corps to Ukraine
        EDIT: 1 guard_infantry moved from 2nd Corps to Ukraine
        EDIT: 1 Soviet_Commisar moved from 2nd Corps to Ukraine
        1 FighterAce, 3 armour, 2 fighters, 1 russian_para and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Ukraine
        3 guard_infantrys and 26 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
        EDIT: 1 1stCorps moved from Samara to 1st Corps
        EDIT: 2 armour moved from 1st Corps to Vologda
        EDIT: 1 guard_infantry moved from 1st Corps to Vologda
        EDIT: 1 Soviet_Commisar_3 moved from Overflow to Vologda
        1 infantry moved from Samara to Vologda
        1 infantry moved from Samara to Novosibirsk

    Combat - Russians
        Battle in Novosibirsk
            Russians attack with 1 infantry
            Japanese defend with 1 aaGun
            Russians win, taking Novosibirsk from Japanese with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
            Casualties for Japanese: 1 aaGun
        Battle in Ukraine
            Russians attack with 1 ArmyGroupActive, 1 FighterAce, 1 Soviet_Commisar, 1 Tank_General3, 10 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 5 guard_infantrys, 33 infantry, 1 russian_para and 1 tactical_bomber
            Germans defend with 1 ArmyGroupActive, 1 ElitePanzer, 1 GAirCommanderFtr, 1 G_air_transport, 3 GfighterAFs, 1 Panzer_General, 2 Panzer_Grndrss, 1 Waffen_Arty, 1 Waffen_Oberst, 1 aaGun, 5 armour, 1 elite, 12 infantry, 2 tactical_bombers, 1 waffen_PG, 1 waffen_PG_Active, 2 waffen_infantrys and 2 waffen_panzers; Italians defend with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: 25 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 ArmyGroupActive owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine
            EDIT: 2 Panzer_Grndrss owned by the Germans, 1 aaGun owned by the Germans, 1 ArmyGroupActive owned by the Germans, 12 infantry owned by the Germans, 3 armour owned by the Germans, 2 tactical_bombers owned by the Germans, 1 artillery owned by the Italians, 3 infantry owned by the Italians and 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Ukraine
            EDIT: 8 infantry owned by the Russians, 2 artilleries owned by the Russians and 4 guard_infantrys owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine
            EDIT: 1 elite owned by the Germans, 2 waffen_panzers owned by the Germans, 1 GAirCommanderFtr owned by the Germans, 1 ElitePanzer owned by the Germans, 1 waffen_PG_Active owned by the Germans, 2 waffen_infantrys owned by the Germans, 3 GfighterAFs owned by the Germans, 1 Waffen_Oberst owned by the Germans, 2 armour owned by the Germans, 1 Waffen_Arty owned by the Germans, 1 waffen_PG owned by the Germans and 1 Panzer_General owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine
            EDIT: 1 G_air_transport owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine
            EDIT: Russians takes Ukraine from Germans
            EDIT: Russians win
            EDIT: Battle casualty summary: Battle score (TUV change) for attacker is 62
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
        Battle in Vologda
            Russians attack with 1 Soviet_Commisar_3, 2 armour, 1 guard_infantry and 1 infantry
            Japanese defend with 2 armour and 1 russian_minor
            Russians win, taking Vologda from Japanese with 1 Soviet_Commisar_3 and 2 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
            Casualties for Russians: 1 guard_infantry and 1 infantry
            Casualties for Japanese: 2 armour
        Trigger Remove All ParaBoost: has removed 1 german_paraBoost owned by Germans in Tambov
        Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 97 Sea Zone
        Trigger Remove All Wolfpack: has removed 1 Wolfpack owned by Germans in 112 Sea Zone

    Non Combat Move - Russians
        Trigger ParaBoost atTambov: Germans has 1 german_paraBoost placed in Tambov
        Trigger Wolfpack at112 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 112 Sea Zone
        Trigger Wolfpack at97 SeaZones: Germans has 1 Wolfpack placed in 97 Sea Zone
        Trigger RailMovementAutoPlaceRemoveRussians: has removed 1 R_Europe_Rail and 2 Russian_Rails owned by Russians in Russia
        Trigger Remove All RussiansParaBoost: has removed 1 russian_paraBoost owned by Russians in Egypt
        1 FighterAce moved from Ukraine to Russia
        1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Russia
        2 fighters moved from Ukraine to Russia
        1 aaGun moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
        2 aaGuns moved from Bryansk to Russia
        1 aaGun moved from Bryansk to Ukraine

    Place Units - Russians
        3 Mass_Tankss and 3 TotalWar_Tank_2s placed in Russia
        Trigger MassTanksPlace3: has removed 3 Mass_Tankss owned by Russians in Russia
        Trigger RussiansTotalWarTankPlaceRussia6: has removed 3 TotalWar_Tank_2s owned by Russians in Russia
        Trigger MassTanksPlace3: Russians has 3 armour placed in Russia
        Trigger RussiansTotalWarTankPlaceRussia6: Russians has 3 armour placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
        Trigger RussiansParaBoost atEgypt: Russians has 1 russian_paraBoost placed in Egypt
        Russians collect 16 PUs; end with 17 PUs

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[beelee]

@Trout

That was pretty Brutal. They had to give the Fuhrer a sedative lol