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    • HeppsH Offline
      Hepps Moderators @redrum
      last edited by

      @redrum Still need those resized images?

      "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
      Hepster

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      • redrumR Offline
        redrum Admin @Hepps
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        @hepps Yes, please. I think at least posting a few screenshots with 16x16 and 20x20 is probably worth the time. I'm fairly sure we have consensus that 12x12 icons are useless.

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        • HeppsH Offline
          Hepps Moderators @redrum
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          @redrum So then what are we thinking 16 x 16, 20 x 20 and 48 x 48?

          "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
          Hepster

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          • redrumR Offline
            redrum Admin @Hepps
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            @hepps I'm just focusing on the small resource icon at the moment but here are my thoughts:

            • Small - either 16x16, 20x20, 24x24 - used for areas with text like purchase costs
            • Medium - either 24x24, 28x28, 32x32 - used for bottom bar, other main UI areas
            • Large - 48x48? I think that is the most used unit image size? - used when displaying them as a 'unit'

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            • HeppsH Offline
              Hepps Moderators @redrum
              last edited by Hepps

              @redrum Yah that looks ideal. Allows for some individual customization.

              I'll work on those for you now that I am home.

              "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
              Hepster

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              • redrumR Offline
                redrum Admin @Hepps
                last edited by

                @hepps Right, though I'd like to pick the 'best' and make that what we include in the engine for each size as well as our 'recommendation' to map makers.

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                • HeppsH Offline
                  Hepps Moderators @redrum
                  last edited by

                  @redrum I just moved a few things around and included the resources as a 32 x 32 size image, increased the font for the quantity to 16 and made it bold.

                  0_1519158112873_Snap.png

                  "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                  Hepster

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                  • redrumR Offline
                    redrum Admin
                    last edited by redrum

                    Alright so here are some options with other image sizes. My initial thoughts is I prefer 16/20 over the 24 as they seem identifiable but don't take up as much space. No real preference on not bold vs bold as I think bold looks better but then it makes me starting wondering what else should be bold ๐Ÿ™‚

                    16x16
                    0_1519160311515_42dd8caf-e372-4d3a-b150-599d877496a8-image.png

                    20x20
                    0_1519160389848_066402ed-dbf9-44b7-86f4-278a90c96ea7-image.png

                    16x16 with Bold Quantity
                    0_1519161034991_fd060da1-9d95-43a6-9e7d-2518fcab6feb-image.png

                    20x20 with Bold Quantity
                    0_1519160964858_f92b7860-0a85-4961-addc-cdb98c6b532a-image.png

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                    • FrostionF Offline
                      Frostion Admin
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                      @Hepps - Hmmm โ€ฆ I donโ€™t think I like the bold resource numbers. And I think itโ€™s a little โ€œoffโ€ having the units and the resource cost pictures almost the same size. its all just a bit too much.

                      Anyway @redrum here is a collection of Dragon War pictures that you can play around with. Also there is an XML of Dragon War where the players start out with a random bunch of resources, making them able to purchase from round 1. I contains unit size, 32, 24 and 16.

                      Mind you that these pictures, unlike the standard TripleA resource pictures, have a yellow backdrop and more transparent space around them. That also goes for the smaller pictures. I have not made a โ€œcleanโ€ version. I might do that. You so you know that a Dragon war 16x16 might not give the same impression as a standard TripleA picture 16x16.

                      0_1519161178942_DragonWarResources.zip

                      Map maker of: Star Wars: Galactic War + Star Wars: Tatooine War + Caribbean Trade War + Dragon War + Age of Tribes + Star Trek: Dilithium War + Iron War + Iron War: Europe + Warcraft: War Heroes

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                      • FrostionF Offline
                        Frostion Admin
                        last edited by

                        @redrum I like the 20x20, I just wish we could see the same preview with 1 size larger font instead of bold font. ๐Ÿ˜‰

                        Map maker of: Star Wars: Galactic War + Star Wars: Tatooine War + Caribbean Trade War + Dragon War + Age of Tribes + Star Trek: Dilithium War + Iron War + Iron War: Europe + Warcraft: War Heroes

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                        • redrumR Offline
                          redrum Admin @Frostion
                          last edited by redrum

                          @frostion Ask and thou shall receive:

                          20x20 with larger font quantity
                          0_1519162057875_99e52ad5-d99b-4734-b0fa-290af6f5800c-image.png

                          24x24 with larger font quantity
                          0_1519162217867_5690cc02-d91f-4730-a8e3-1a3622e4d700-image.png

                          Dragon War @ 24x24 with larger font quantity
                          0_1519163117132_24ecc51b-63f9-43ac-8cf2-2fa7ffbdadf1-image.png

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                          • FrostionF Offline
                            Frostion Admin
                            last edited by Frostion

                            Nice. I like the โ€œ20x20 with larger font quantityโ€ For me at least it seems to represent a good balanced display.

                            Here are Dragon War 20x20 icon.

                            I will try to make some Iron War icons and post them for you to test. I will include some 20x20 also.

                            0_1519162984264_DragonWar20x20.zip

                            Map maker of: Star Wars: Galactic War + Star Wars: Tatooine War + Caribbean Trade War + Dragon War + Age of Tribes + Star Trek: Dilithium War + Iron War + Iron War: Europe + Warcraft: War Heroes

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                            • redrumR Offline
                              redrum Admin @Frostion
                              last edited by redrum

                              @frostion Yeah, only thing that worries me is font size inconsistency and whether that opens up a can of worms. But to be fair good UI design often uses different size fonts/images to highlight different areas. My initial guy reaction is either 16x16 with normal size font or 20x20 with larger font.

                              DW Pre-Icons (Death By Text!)
                              0_1519163251013_25a919d6-21a7-4ac8-a283-4e2d0583cdfd-image.png

                              DW 20x20 larger font quantity
                              0_1519163392425_57bb0419-388e-4288-a423-74b327c3ab3e-image.png

                              DW 16x16 larger font quantity
                              0_1519163454720_c96e9de3-3e5c-4153-9026-aa6e5f23fb18-image.png

                              DW 16x16
                              0_1519163499394_69d9d99e-762d-4b4f-93ad-1ed860bb2fe6-image.png

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                              • FrostionF Offline
                                Frostion Admin
                                last edited by

                                The 16x16 with normal font also looks good, but the icons are on the verge of being unrecognizable.

                                Taking the civil war version in mind, I am still for โ€œ20x20 larger font quantityโ€.

                                I am eager to know what other people think.

                                Did the first work for Iron War icon set, but you will have to wait about 22 hours till I finish them ๐Ÿ˜œ Good night!

                                Map maker of: Star Wars: Galactic War + Star Wars: Tatooine War + Caribbean Trade War + Dragon War + Age of Tribes + Star Trek: Dilithium War + Iron War + Iron War: Europe + Warcraft: War Heroes

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                                • redrumR Offline
                                  redrum Admin
                                  last edited by redrum

                                  So for now going with the 20x20 and larger font, I adjusted some spacing and now enforce resource ordering based on the XML to get the following:

                                  Dragon War
                                  0_1519172099101_d30ef3d2-c3c1-4d5e-9971-5be5ed709799-image.png

                                  Civil War
                                  0_1519171891791_068bc02e-1609-41fd-8e00-446c40a90acc-image.png

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                                  • HeppsH Offline
                                    Hepps Moderators @redrum
                                    last edited by

                                    @redrum I think you found the sweet spot. All looks great!

                                    "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                    Hepster

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                                    • redrumR Offline
                                      redrum Admin
                                      last edited by

                                      Alright, I think we'll go with the 20x20 with larger font for the purchase window. Next up is resource bar!

                                      20x20
                                      0_1519183959421_9708ad4a-8eaf-4295-af34-3f737e5b2229-image.png

                                      24x24
                                      0_1519184083162_78e37eb7-6eb2-47ce-8fb3-3d5ccf0f4e90-image.png

                                      28x28
                                      0_1519183992458_472c7133-fbdc-48d1-b5c9-9842c1bd668d-image.png

                                      32x32
                                      0_1519184035877_1aa102a8-fa1c-41c9-a736-3657571b16c1-image.png

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                                      • HeppsH Offline
                                        Hepps Moderators @redrum
                                        last edited by

                                        @redrum Would probably be best to show the examples with the entire window... maybe with the purchase window open at the same time. Since a comparison is an important part of the concept.

                                        We have to bear in mind that the quality of the resource image is also a factor. I did the larger images quickly by expanding the existing images... which yields blurry results without a great deal more work. So it is important to evaluate the sizes based on how they work comparatively rather than on the quality of the icons themselves.

                                        "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                        Hepster

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                                          prastle Moderators Admin @redrum
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                                          @redrum sexy ๐Ÿ™‚

                                          If we open a quarrel between past and present, we shall find that we have lost the future! Sir Winston Churchill

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                                          • redrumR Offline
                                            redrum Admin
                                            last edited by redrum

                                            @Hepps Good point. Here are screenshots with purchase window open. After we narrow it down I can try some different font sizes as well. I also need to fix the right part of the bottom bar so its height scales with the rest.

                                            20x20
                                            0_1519184643013_36dd0b1c-7c7b-4610-84bd-0973bbab3fe9-image.png

                                            24x24
                                            0_1519184693964_b747aea4-d221-4cc6-b4f5-567f2d3fff54-image.png

                                            28x28
                                            0_1519184600332_0a6f07d7-0f44-4eae-8408-95c75ac8dcc6-image.png

                                            32x32
                                            0_1519184551066_fa0df392-c7d9-4b2a-be62-0306e6c3bce7-image.png

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