Roger's Scenario Thread

butterw

Name World War II v5 1942 Second Edition (5 players)

1942.2: ww2 v2 "Revised" map updated with +15 more land territories.

Here are some stats from one of the ww2 scenarios (I may also look at others). Balance is poor without bid (favors axis AI: Russians<Japanese).

Info obtained from Export>stats_full.csv, except for map size which was derived from the xml.

Map size 161 (Territories/Sea: 96 65)
Territories Allies/Axis/"isImpassable" Neutrals: 48 31 16
Russians Germans British Japanese Americans: 11 16 21 16 16
Initial PUs/Production: 168, Allies/Axis: 97 71
Russians Germans British Japanese Americans: 24 41 31 30 42
Initial Units: 227, Allies/Axis: 113 114
Russians Germans British Japanese Americans: 36 65 41 49 36
Initial TUV: 1381, Allies/Axis: 714 667
Russians Germans British Japanese Americans: 180 362 283 305 251
Initial Production Capacity, 10 factories (can place 65 units)
Allies/Axis: 7 3 (47 21)
Russians 8+4+2=14
Germans 10+3=13
British 8+3=11
Japanese 8
Americans 12+10=22

RogerCooper

Name NM'sL-wip
Description World War One on a detailed world map
link

Good Points

Lots of political & technological options
Conflicts in many areas

Bad Points

Lots of ahistorical stuff
Slow-playing even with Fast AI

RogerCooper

Name Classic: Iron Blitz 1942A: Russia Neutral
Description US & UK vs Germany & Japan
link

Good Points

Interesting hypothetical situation
Fast-playing

**Bad Points

Strongly favors the Axis

RogerCooper

Name Big World 2 : Rise of the Axis
Description The Big World map, starting in 1939
link

Good Points

Interesting political & tech options

Bad Points

Hard for the Axis to achieve their historical conquest, let alone win

RogerCooper

Name Great War-TLS-March1918
Description World War 1 in 1918
link

Good Points

Interesting historical situation
Special units to reflect 1918

Bad Points

No victory conditions
No sense of the exhaustion of the Central Powers
The West Front inset map makes it impossible for the Germans to strike a knockout blow
The inset maps are pointless in 1918 situation

RogerCooper

Name AAC-Buildcaps
Description Classic game with builds limited to what came in the box
link

Good Points

No superstacks

Bad Points

Russia can't survive without hordes of infantry

RogerCooper

Name Iron Blitz-1939B-RussiaInTheAxis
Description Russia & Germany vs Britain, Japan & United States with the Classic map and rules
link

Good Points

Plays fast
Different situation

Bad Points

The game tends to stalemate, with it being especially hard for the Axis to breakout against powers that control the sea.

Cernel

@rogercooper Pretty sure this is not possible in TripleA (in a clean way).

The (never implemented) intended default TripleA rules are that you are limited to a number of same-unit stacks per player per type of unit, but the total number of units is unlimited (for example, max 3 of a type of units means that every player can have up to 3 stacks of that type of unit, yet it can still have infinite numbers of them), except for infrastructures, which are limited to a number per type (not per player, so, once the number is reached, nobody can have more of them for the rest of the game beside "aaGun" units becoming purchasable again after being removed from play as cargo of sunken "transport" units).

I've not looked at the game you are referring to, yet I'm pretty sure neither of these rules is supported by TripleA.

You probably should reword your description, telling that the reviewed game is a custom mod (what else?). Also, if it is a mod of "World War II Classic", I suggest its name starting as "WWIIv1" (for consistency sake), like "WWIIv1 Build Caps".

Cernel

@rogercooper said in Roger's Scenario Thread:

Bad Points

Russia can't survive without hordes of infantry

Playing "Classic" by the intended default TripleA rules, the Russians are virtually unlimited in infantry purchases because it is virtually impossible you reach the generous maximum number of stacks of infantry you are limited to. I actually don't think anyone is ever going to reach it, so infantry units are practically unlimited anyways.

RogerCooper

@cernel The mod I was playing limited the total number of units, not the number of stacks. This was the rule in original 1981 edition of the game and is fully supported by TripleA. However, it did not work too well in this mod.

RogerCooper

Name WW2v3-3 Alliances
Description An alternate WW2 with Russia, China & Japan forming a third alliance
link

Good Points

Fast-playing version 3 rules
Interesting alt history situation

Bad Points

Hard to achieve the actual victory conditions

RogerCooper

Domination 1914-Weltpolitik
World War 1 on a large world map
link

Good Points

Interesting political options
Lots of nations with conflict all over the map

Bad Points

With large number of units on a big map, the game plays slowly

RogerCooper

Name Command and Conquer
Description SF battle for Europe & Africa
link

Good Points

Not another WW2 game
Plays fast
SF-themed units from the Command and Conquer computer game

Bad Points

Neutral units in lots of places causes confusion
Only 2-playable nations limits options
Poor artwork

RogerCooper

Name World War II Global 1942 2nd Edition
Description A 1942 scenario for the Global game
link

Good Points

No messy political rules
The US has some thing to do from the start

Bad Points

It can still be tough on the Allies, who don't have enough of a production advantage to offset Russian's isolation

Cernel

@rogercooper said in Roger's Scenario Thread:

Name World War II Global 1942 2nd Edition
Description A 1942 scenario for the Global game
link

Good Points

No messy political rules

The US has some thing to do from the start

Apparently, you are quite alone here. I guess people love those messy rules. I can say that in the TripleA lobby there are a lot of games of 1940 but hardly any number of 1942. Something like one hundred 1940 games for every 1942 game played: as a matter of fact, players way prefer 1940 over 1942 so much that the opportunity of the mere existence of the 1942 scenario may be questioned.

RogerCooper

@cernel I am generally playing against the AI, so the political rules cause trouble. But in general, the AAG40 has overly complicated political rules, without really creating new opportunities, because most of the political decisions are obvious. In WW2 game this is inevitable because if you don't force the players to do things historically, you would have a very different WW2.

The point of this thread is to provide some exposure for lesser known scenarios. When I played Global 42 as Russia, I took Germany and lost because the Japanese took Hawaii. It was a fun game.

RogerCooper

Name AAC-Buildcaps
Description Classic game with units limited to what was in the box.
link
Good Points

No mega-stacks
Forces varied unit purchasing

Bad Points

Awkward & arbitrary

RogerCooper

Name Big World 2 : Rise of the Axis
Description Big World Map with political options and national objectives

link

Good Points

Interesting options and objectives

Bad Points

It is hard for the Axis to achieve their historical conquests, let alone win

RogerCooper

Name Ur-Quan Slave War
Description Space Opera based on the Star Control game series
link

Good Points

Evocative unit art & species names
Unique units for every power

Bad Points

The lack of terrain or other significant areas (other than high income homeworlds) means that the game tends lack focus

RogerCooper

Name Age of Tribes: Cold War
Description 2 evenly matched blocs fight over Europe with extensive unit development rules
link

Good Points
*A wide verity of units
*Interesting unit development rules

Bad Points
*2 evenly matched alliances lack strategic tension
*In practice, the units aren't very different