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    • RogerCooperR Offline
      RogerCooper
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      Scenario Oil War
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      Description A modern struggle between West, East & the Islamic Caliphate

      Good Points

      • Interesting, 3-way struggle
      • Low unit density and low production values make for fast play

      Bad Points

      • Odd assignments of production values
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        Scenario Risk
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        Description A Risk board with each continent held by 1 player and arbitrary alliances

        Good Points

        • Fast Play
        • Didn't you always want to play A&A on a Risk board

        Bad Points

        • Some graphics issues with the map
        • Too few territories for interesting play
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          Scenario World War II Global 1940 Ryuzaki
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          Description The Global 1940 game with a modified setup, notably France is stronger.

          Good Points

          • The Global 1940 game works generally well in TripleA

          Bad Points

          • The AI tends declare war prematurely and sometimes gets confused by the various types of neutrals
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            Scenario Middle Earth - Fords
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            Description The War of the Ring

            Good Points

            • Nice map, complete with fords

            Bad Points

            • Unique and rare beings from Tolkien can be mass-produced
            • Favors the Good side
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              RogerCooper
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              Scenario Medieval Europe
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              Description Conflict in Medieval Europe between 3 alliances

              Good Points

              • Nice map
              • Good unit art

              Bad Points

              • No specific historical situation
              • No attempt to depict the realities of Medieval warfare, the game is reskinned WW2 without aircraft
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              • RogerCooperR Offline
                RogerCooper @RogerCooper
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                @RogerCooper I would suggest to designers working with pre-gunpowder warfare, that they should make an effort to depict the following real characteristics of the time

                • Castles and local levies. Castles could be handled as an expensive, multi-hit static unit, while levies could be cheap static units, replaced by events.
                • The high cost of maintaining mobile forces. Just have them create negative PU's.
                • The power of cavalry and its limitations. For example, cavalry could be handled as aircraft (with terrain effects to prevent sea movement)
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                  redrum Admin @RogerCooper
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                  @RogerCooper The medieval europe download doesn't seem to work.

                  TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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                  • RogerCooperR Offline
                    RogerCooper @redrum
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                    @redrum Try http://www.rogercooper.com/Medieval_Europe.zip
                    I just downloaded it myself.

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                    • redrumR Offline
                      redrum Admin @RogerCooper
                      last edited by redrum

                      @RogerCooper Yep that works. Thanks.

                      I was hoping the map was a bit more... developed. I'm eventually looking to make a medieval map and looking for ideas. If you know of any good medieval maps let me know.

                      TripleA Developer with a Passion for AI: https://forums.triplea-game.org/topic/105/ai-development-discussion-and-feedback

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                        Cernel Moderators @RogerCooper
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                        @RogerCooper said in Roger's Scenario Thread:

                        @RogerCooper I would suggest to designers working with pre-gunpowder warfare, that they should make an effort to depict the following real characteristics of the time

                        • Castles and local levies. Castles could be handled as an expensive, multi-hit static unit, while levies could be cheap static units, replaced by events.
                        • The high cost of maintaining mobile forces. Just have them create negative PU's.
                        • The power of cavalry and its limitations. For example, cavalry could be handled as aircraft (with terrain effects to prevent sea movement)

                        For castles, the recent enhancement to AA guns, the ability of land units of making SBR and the capacity of killed units to turn into other units open up a lot of feasible possibilities, but I think I would still suggest castles to be basically capturable infrastructures, as that is what they were.

                        Totally agree with upkeep being a must have for pre modern warfare. It is actually rather hard to get any ideas on how to represent purchase costs, instead, as, be it with cession of land or with money payments, virtually the only cost for a lord was maintainment, not "creation", of land units (as well as merchant ships) (an item may be the cost for replacement of horses lost in battle, but even that would happen only after the unit has been killed or damaged, not in the moment you raise it).

                        Pushing aircrafts into pre world war games, as cavalry or whatever, feels lame to me, as it is anyways making a suboptimal representation of the matter, using (and to some extent likely hacking) rules tailored for something else, just to get close to what you actually want. I think not one of the various (not fantasy) pre world war games having (pseudo) aircrafts is really good on the feature, or at least all of them are very unpopular. A good representation of the raiding or hit-and-run ability of cavalry would likely require at least an athomization of the current abilities assigned to air units, especially regarding not forcefully losing the ability to load onto sea transports (that I consider a deal breaker on its own).

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                        • alkexrA Offline
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                          @RogerCooper & @Cernel: You are both right about castles. The first idea that comes to my mind is a two-hit static Castle unit which, when destroyed, changes into a three-hit Ruined castle capturable infrastructure, setting transfer attributes to true. Whenever this unit takes 2 damage (and would normally be destroyed) it changes into a 3-hit unit, which still only has 2 damage, so it will survive. Then the winner captures it, and next turn it gets repaired back into a non-ruined Castle. Essentially this castle would be a capturable infrastructure that can also defend itself to an extent.

                          I had another idea about medieval warfare which I wanted to experiment with, but that is unlikely to happen now. In short, you can think of levies or garrison as units with limited effective range. So you just make them non-kamikaze air units with 1 movement. Now they can move around but can't attack. But if castles give them 1 bonus movement, then suddenly they can launch attacks from castles against directly adjacent territories. It would be rather pointless for the player to move them away from castles (maybe give them 0 defense without a support attachment from a castle, to emphasize this). This would represent castles as dynamic defense systems, which is closer to historical reality than a static heap of bricks.

                          "For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air."

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                          • RogerCooperR Offline
                            RogerCooper @redrum
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                            @redrum There are plenty of good maps of Europe, (Age of Tribes comes to mind), but there are no pre-gunpowder scenarios which deal with the strategic reality. The best is probably Greyhawk Wars with it's stack tax. Most scenarios come off as reskinned WW2 without aircraft.

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                              Scenario Rome Total War
                              Download Repository/Experimental/Rome Total War
                              Description The Mediterranean in 270BC

                              Good Points

                              • Good unit art
                              • Some interesting unit types

                              Bad Points

                              • Anti-Roman alliance has a significant advantage
                              • No victory conditions

                              This would probably be better with the Romans receiving a bonus and a time-limit on conquest

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                                RogerCooper
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                                Scenario Feudal Japan
                                Download Repository/Good Quality/Feudal Japan
                                Description A port of the game Shogun, covering the civil wars of 16th century Japan

                                Good Points

                                • A reasonable simulation of the original boardgame
                                • Some diplomatic options

                                Bad Points

                                • I received a null pointer error in the middle of the game
                                • The lack of maintenance costs is problematic in this situation
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                                  RogerCooper
                                  last edited by RogerCooper

                                  Scenario 300BC
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                                  Good Points

                                  • Good unit art & variety
                                  • Interesting historical situation

                                  Bad Points

                                  • Big map with low movement allowances
                                  • Absurdly large stacks
                                  • No victory conditions
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                                    RogerCooper
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                                    Scenario World at War
                                    Download Repository/High Quality/World at War

                                    Good Points

                                    • Big, WW2 game
                                    • Well balanced

                                    Bad Points

                                    • Geographical oddities such as the French controlling northern Canada
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                                      RogerCooper
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                                      Scenario WAW 1940
                                      Download Repository/High Quality/World at War
                                      Description Standard A&A pieces with a big map

                                      Good Points

                                      • Well balanced
                                      • Interesting rules with capitals and victory conditions

                                      Bad Points

                                      • Geographical oddities
                                      • A long game, even with Fast AI
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                                        Scenario World War II v6 1941
                                        Download Repository/High Quality/World War II v6 1941
                                        Description: A port of the AA41 game

                                        Good Points

                                        • Simple, fast-playing game

                                        Bad Points

                                        • Russia is going to fall, leaving the game a draw
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                                          Scenario Classic Iron Blitz 1942A; Russia Neutral
                                          Download Repository/Experimental/Classic Variations
                                          Description Germany & Japan vs UK & US

                                          Good Points

                                          • Classic rules

                                          Bad Points

                                          • Without Russia, the game lacks strategic tension
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                                            RogerCooper @RogerCooper
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                                            Scenario Big World-April 1940
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                                            Description Another Big World Scenario

                                            Good Points

                                            • Fairly standard unit capabilities

                                            Bad Points

                                            • Like most Big World scenarios, it favors the Axis because it takes too long for the Americans to accomplish anything
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