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    • alkexrA Offline
      alkexr
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      I would suggest considering separate images for digits instead of numbers. While that complicates calculating display coordinates, it has the great advantage of requiring 10 images instead of infinitely many. Though then you couldn't have Roman numerals for 270 BC, which would be a shame, really.

      "For the world is changing: I feel it in the water, I feel it in the earth, and I smell it in the air."

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      • HeppsH Offline
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        @alkexr I'm easy. I do not profess to know the best way to handle this from a technical standpoint. All I know is that after rendering a near infinite number of trees, hills, mountains and houses.... I can probably design as many numbers as we could possibly need. 😃

        "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
        Hepster

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        • prastleP Offline
          prastle Moderators Admin @Hepps
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          @hepps we allllll know YOUR EASY! 🙂 nice ideas

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            @prastle You only know that because we've been on a date. If you hadn't been swept off your feet by my rugged good looks and charm... you'd have not idea. 😃

            "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
            Hepster

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              prastle Moderators Admin @Hepps
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              @hepps ROFL!
              yes dear

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              • redrumR Offline
                redrum Admin
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                @Hepps So is the main point having a nice outline for the unit numbers? If so I'd probably want to consider doing it without images first before falling back to that option. But what you propose should be theoretically doable and I'd probably agree with @alkexr to draw each digit so less images are needed.

                Also the benefit of figuring out how to do it programmatically is we keep the font size options. Though I guess in theory you could do something with image sizing.

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                • HeppsH Offline
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                  last edited by Hepps

                  @redrum I am open to all kinds of options... fast and loose that's how I like to play it. 😉

                  I guess just working on a couple different maps lately I started to really see how the monochrome pixilated numbers are a huge opportunity for maps. And while antialiasing alone would be an improvement, it by no means solve the issue of maps with a variety of unit and territory colours, shading, reliefs, unit colours.....

                  So while pondering it I thought the best would be a outline. the reason I suggested an image is really a by-product of two things...

                  First I thought an outlined number was not possible to render currently. (as a font)

                  Second I thought if they were images then it allows the creative juices to just flow, since you could do all kinds of wonderful things both with numbers as well as backgrounds.

                  "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                  Hepster

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                  • alkexrA Offline
                    alkexr @redrum
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                    @redrum said in Inception: A dream within a dream (Unit stack numbers display):

                    figuring out how to do it programmatically

                    In C# what I would do is to draw the number (string) to a Bitmap first (don't know java equivalent). Then for each pixel P, you take the maximum of (alpha of pixel Q * strength - Euclidian distance(P, Q) * sharpness) over all pixels Q on the bitmap, this will be the alpha of the outline. Then you overlay the original bitmap over the outline. (Strength and sharpness are parameters.) If you only take the maximum over pixels Q within a radius of (255 * strength - sharpness), then you get the same result in O(n^2) relative to the height/width of the bitmap.

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                    • FrostionF Offline
                      Frostion Admin
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                      Just outlining the current numbers would be a great improvement! The default white numbers can be hard to see and distinguish on bright territory backgrounds. (Yes, I know that I can change colors... But I don't want to 😊)

                      Map maker of: Star Wars: Galactic War + Star Wars: Tatooine War + Caribbean Trade War + Dragon War + Age of Tribes + Star Trek: Dilithium War + Iron War + Iron War: Europe + Warcraft: War Heroes

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                      • redrumR Offline
                        redrum Admin
                        last edited by redrum

                        So here a first go at it:
                        0_1530226684526_6e1188b5-4c10-4686-8555-a1aa95f8e079-image.png

                        And with a large number of units:
                        0_1530226809487_3be9b57f-018a-4179-926f-ddecd0623437-image.png

                        Before:
                        0_1530227830920_ba3f141f-da39-496d-a6ea-6673fe6c15b3-image.png

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                        • HeppsH Offline
                          Hepps Moderators @redrum
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                          @redrum How is that possible? How was this able to be done so quickly?

                          "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                          Hepster

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                          • redrumR Offline
                            redrum Admin @alkexr
                            last edited by redrum

                            @alkexr That's a bit more graphics kungfu then I'm doing at the moment. Initially, I'm just outlining the text by first drawing it at the 1 pixel over northwest, southwest, northeast, and southeast positions with the outline color and then drawing the text in the center with the text color. As well as enabling anti-aliasing.

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                            • HeppsH Offline
                              Hepps Moderators @redrum
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                              @redrum All good. I just thought this would be a much bigger undertaking...

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                              "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                              Hepster

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                              • redrumR Offline
                                redrum Admin @Hepps
                                last edited by

                                @hepps Well, my pretty simple approach took about 5 minutes. Ask and thou shall receive 🙂

                                Open to trying some other ideas if folks want. Probably gonna at least add an option to set the outline color as well.

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                                • HeppsH Offline
                                  Hepps Moderators @redrum
                                  last edited by Hepps

                                  @redrum That was my very next question. 😃

                                  I'm going to use inception more often. It appears to be highly effective as a title. 😉

                                  "A joyous heart sours with the burden of expectation"
                                  Hepster

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                                  • redrumR Offline
                                    redrum Admin
                                    last edited by

                                    And did unit and bombing damage as well:
                                    0_1530234019701_47e2665f-4a3f-4f62-b59f-d829e58340c3-image.png

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                                    • redrumR Offline
                                      redrum Admin
                                      last edited by redrum

                                      And the update font preferences:
                                      0_1530235467266_d9569bb3-c8c1-4955-8dec-65f832f10c3d-image.png

                                      Any thoughts on defaults? Unit color/outline as white/black seems good. But black numbers with white outline are a bit jarring. Maybe do a gray for default outline for hit and bombing damage? Also should the default font size be a bit bigger? 12 seems really small on most screens/maps.

                                      0_1530237214893_2c7d5fb5-f111-4ade-b075-9b56499ffe26-image.png

                                      Current defaults:
                                      private static final int MAP_FONT_SIZE_DEFAULT = 12;
                                      private static final Color TERRITORY_NAME_AND_PU_AND_COMMENT_COLOR_DEFAULT = Color.BLACK;
                                      private static final Color UNIT_COUNT_COLOR_DEFAULT = Color.WHITE;
                                      private static final Color UNIT_COUNT_OUTLINE_DEFAULT = Color.BLACK;
                                      private static final Color UNIT_FACTORY_DAMAGE_COLOR_DEFAULT = Color.BLACK;
                                      private static final Color UNIT_FACTORY_DAMAGE_OUTLINE_DEFAULT = Color.LIGHT_GRAY;
                                      private static final Color UNIT_HIT_DAMAGE_COLOR_DEFAULT = Color.BLACK;
                                      private static final Color UNIT_HIT_DAMAGE_OUTLINE_DEFAULT = Color.LIGHT_GRAY;

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                                      • redrumR Offline
                                        redrum Admin
                                        last edited by

                                        Last but not least the PR with the changes: https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/pull/3488

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                                        • FrostionF Offline
                                          Frostion Admin
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                                          Personally I think 12 is nice. Especially since the unit pictures themselves are pretty small. If pictures were bigger, then the text should of course also be set to be bigger.

                                          Map maker of: Star Wars: Galactic War + Star Wars: Tatooine War + Caribbean Trade War + Dragon War + Age of Tribes + Star Trek: Dilithium War + Iron War + Iron War: Europe + Warcraft: War Heroes

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                                          • prastleP Offline
                                            prastle Moderators Admin @Frostion
                                            last edited by

                                            @frostion The colour blind bastd chimes in white is best 🙂 but either are an improvement 🙂 just my 2 cents

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